[VS] Ems Sasuke vs 3rd Raikage
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He would never in a million years:
1) Get caught in genjutsu, since he first has to lock eyes (EMS manga fact) and then activate the jutsu mentally using chakra (just like every other ninja).
2) Some how grab the 3rd with his amazing reflexes and speed with the slow ass susanoo even old man danzo
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. 3) EMS sasuke doesn't have manda, he has Aoda. and even then both are ripped to shreds the moment they are summoned!
4) The Hawk is burnt to a crisp with Nigh instant Black lightning before moving his wings to go/stay airborn.
Susanoo grabing him is the most unlikely scenerio this site in particular uses. Then we have the fact The "Ultimate sword" would slice and Susanoo arm sasuke has bar PS the moment he is magically caught with the fingers. Are we seriously going to act as though the 3rd would sit and do nothing while sasuke just walks up and grabs him? lol
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Still waiting for a legit reason why MS Sasuke can't track and Susano'o grab someone on V1 Ay's speed-level. Ay obviously won't sit there, which was never even argued. Lol at Sasuke going for a grab with Susano'o already out:
1. Ay goes for a Hellstab in a linear charge
2. Sasuke evades easily (already explained why he can)
3. Activates ribcage or any Susano'o, grabs him and puts him in a genjutsu
Why are there even scans being posted of Danzo dodging V2's fists? Here's how Danzo dealt with what I'm talking about [
Also, how is Black Lightning pushing off Amaterasu again? If it were that easy, the Raiton Armour or a simple Raiton expulsion would've saved Ay IV's arm, yet he opted to cut it off. BL isn't the same as a KN chakra cloak, and it isn't Shinra Tensei. KN's chakra can throw away Amaterasu because it's like a separate tangible and complete essence which Amaterasu is touching and can't go through without first eating it away, so it was pushed off along with the cloak before it could do that. Black Lightning goes through Amaterasu and isn't pushing off jack, as it isn't the same as this: [
1. Ay goes for a Hellstab in a linear charge
2. Sasuke evades easily (already explained why he can)
3. Activates ribcage or any Susano'o, grabs him and puts him in a genjutsu
Why are there even scans being posted of Danzo dodging V2's fists? Here's how Danzo dealt with what I'm talking about [
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]. Anyway, what SM Naruto did is simply replaced with a Susano'o grab. Ay III was completely unable to react in anyway to Naruto's counter, so him somehow doing it against Sasuke's grab isn't happening, and all that's left is for the genjutsu to be placed, which will happen seeing as how Ay IV, someone who's reflexes are better than the Third, didn't do anything once he was caught in Susano'o.Also, how is Black Lightning pushing off Amaterasu again? If it were that easy, the Raiton Armour or a simple Raiton expulsion would've saved Ay IV's arm, yet he opted to cut it off. BL isn't the same as a KN chakra cloak, and it isn't Shinra Tensei. KN's chakra can throw away Amaterasu because it's like a separate tangible and complete essence which Amaterasu is touching and can't go through without first eating it away, so it was pushed off along with the cloak before it could do that. Black Lightning goes through Amaterasu and isn't pushing off jack, as it isn't the same as this: [
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], unless someone can show me BL possessing the same properties like in those scans, meaning it's something that can physically touch, grab and throw around a person, or form a shield that stops ninjutsu.I'll try to simplify it even more for you (It's a reason Ice' got what was being said)
Why would the weak Susanoo arm
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? Feats of it's Durability to continue. If you cannot show Feats of anything bar PS Surviving 1 finger then don't reply.Sasukes striking speed remained the same after ems and the slow Susanoo arm
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before it
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. If you think some one far far faster and preseptive than danzo cannot react to a simple arm grab then stop replying. Edo Madara had a hard time grabbing V1 Aye let alone Mizukage, onoki etc. Yet you think Sasuke (who is slower in every aspect to Madara) would magically do what Madara couldn't by himself and needed 5 Vs 1 and a distraction to do vs a
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? lolRaiton armor receeds into the body after deactivating not blow off. Black lightning comes from inside the entire body and expells off in the form of a super fast panther. Its simple logic that shouldnt be hard to gasp. Do you need a picture to be drawn? You literally made that BS up about only Kyubi chakra being to fend it away. lmmfao hahahahahhahaha Ama has cannonly not been able to burn away simple Armor. Is it because the armor was Special super Kyubi armor that one specific samurai had? lmmfao Ama didnt work because the chakra protected naruto's body and was literally pushed away by Naruto. Its simple yet complicated to a few still. smh Black lightning counter>Ama, deal with it!
An easy counter to that would be coating it in Enton or instantly catching him in a Genjutsu while he's caught off-guard at what had just happened.
Oh man, look at you using a very ineffective MS user and comparing it to a very experienced EMS user and claiming them as facts.
Better yet, you're dissing Sasuke because Danzo could perceive his Ribcage Susano'os speed when someone who possesses less speed feats and no Precognition could easily perceive Sandaime Raikage's speed point-blank while his back was turned:
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Do you honestly think that someone who can perceive and physically react (somewhat) to Susano'o Arrow's Speed and also possesses Hashirama's DNA and 3T Precognition managing to react to Sasuke's Ribcage Susano'o is worse than someone who possess less speed feats, no Precognition managing to form a seal and a feint against Sandaime Raikage point-blank with his back turned initially? Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
Even then, your feats aren't applicable here. You keep using a very inefficient MS user's feats to prove your point even when we've seen much better from EMS Sasuke who was inexperienced at this point:
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Manifesting Ribcage Susano'o and extending its arm so fast that it caught SM Kabuto off-guard.
EMS Sasuke also possesses superior speed and reflexes by a significant margin compared to MS Sasuke. This doesn't need to be proven. It's been proven when EMS Sasuke outperformed Tobirama when he battled against SM Madara and pressured him to take the defensive.
False. Edo Madara lacked Precognition due to using the Rinnegan and mentally processed V2 Raikage's speed and easily rose his arms to guard against his speed point-blank. I'm not sure where you got the idea that it was V1 Ei's Flicker when Raikage was only able to amp up his speed through Onoki.
Black Lightning countering Amaterasu is entirely baseless when Amaterasu is so potent that it can burn through any flames, no matter what its potency is, not to mention that EMS Sasuke's Amaterasu forced Juubito to actually mount a defense against it.
Amaterasu never failed to bust through simple armor, that was Enton which is not the ignition of the flames. MS Itachi's Amaterasu alone made KCM Naruto piss himself and told B that getting hit by Amaterasu would cost them the match. May I remind you that a Novice MS User managed to use Amaterasu at such a level that it caused the Hachibi to squirm in pain? :lol
EMS Sasuke's Chakra Potency is also superior and so thus, his ability to use Amaterasu is much greater. Quit using Rikudou Naruto's feats to justify why Raikage easily repels Amaterasu when Sasuke himself was significantly weakened and so Sasuke's ability to focus the flames was vastly inferior, much like it was for Kakashi who couldn't even use Kamui from a large range after his vision deteriorated.
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Enton isn't a physical protection, it adds zero durability to susanoo
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. Please do better.Experienced? lmao No! Madara has expeirience, sasuke barely had time to master let alone fully adjust to ems (manga fact). Old man Danzo with 1 eye covered and one eye not even looking at Susano's fist was fully aware, yet you think a Ninja with V1 level speed that even Naruto (who is lightyears faster then any susanoo ever shown bar PS) couldnt even tag with out getting him off his feet. lmao please tell me more! Oh, you bring up Kabuto in control of the 3rd who didnt blitz (impossible since he was air born not on ground) trying to knock naruto out (not kill) and was saved by Robber man? lol Please please do better at comprehanding the manga.
Than you wanna bring up old man Danzo having 3 tomoe, when he didnt even need nor use it (couldnt). Susanoo arrow is easy to mentally react to (plenty ninjas already done it), its the physical reaction that makes it deadly with it's speed. Do you even read the manga? Do you even know what Raiton mode does? Have you even heard of Lightning release body flicker? Do you even know how it works?
Then, you attempt to bring up a sasuke failing to catch a Kabuto who wasn't worrying about him at all. lmmfao So sasuke will magically catch a 3rd raikage fighting a ghost from behind? lmmfao Please please do better! That was afail feat of the slow as susanoo arm not even being able to blind attack a ninja in mid air.
Show feats of him out preforming Tobirama. The fight was off panel on how he was caught. Madara was blind and playing with EMS sasuke while against Tobirama he had 1 rinnegan and a limbo clone (manga facts). Damn you are looking foolish with these half ass examples not telling the entire truth.
Then you say he lacks Precog? Show manga scans stating that! Rinnegan madara has everything ems madara has. How would he be able to use susanoo with rinnegan? Oh wait, what is this?
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"V1" is Raikage with his hair down, when he powers up (No such thing as V1 or V2, fans like you made that up) to full power his hair spikes up and he can Move as fast as the eye can see. Learn the difference between full power/speed Aye and Regular armor aye. When he was fighting the Susanoo clones he didnt use Onoki and was perfectly fine despite being out numbered and handicapped severely, what the hell are you talking about? Susanoo cannoly makes the user slower no disputing.
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. Otherwise sasuke would have instantly been hit aswell since he was on the otherside of the flames. It eventually burned the flames that sasuke still were blowing out btw.2. Raiton has cannonly already protected the
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It literally did not burn through Raiton armor for a good 2-5 minutes in the manga no disputing! But since when the Raikage turns his armor off it resigns, the flames lached to the skin. Black lightning will take the flames off its body instantly! 3. Obito blocked it because it was obivious.
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? Did it matter? no! Please do better.4. Clearly we are reading different mangas. Sasuke says what..
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!... then the
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5. Bee was putting on a act to decieve them. Read the manga.
Ama is AMA no matter the level of user or how much chakra you have unless you improve it with enhancement techs like Sage chakra rikudo chakra (since they are literally stated to make the justu stronger). It's only one entry in the databook. So no, Ama would never kill any ninja instantly on teh Raikages level. Its a joke when I have feats of it being useless and having Zero kills on skin to fire contact!
Overall your response was super weak and improporly documented. You would list one feat (wrong btw) but not list everything that happened in the scenerio. That is called cherry picking. List everything or none.
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Don't make me hurt your feelings by continuing the Ama argument. And again I have facts on Basic armor and skin surviving Ama, Naruto removing it was just a visual of how other ninjas can dispell it if chakra burst away from there body.1) Why wouldn't he look into his eyes? He's
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with similar speed and linear fighting style as 3rd Raikage. Sasuke obviously mentally reacts to the 3rd Raikage so the second part of your sentence was pointless. My premise was Sasuke using genjutsu than grabbing him. Not to mention Sasuke would manifest susanoo arm nigh instantly to grab him when Raikage charges at him similar to how Sasuke did against his son or Naruto did against him. Neither Raikage has showed great dodging speed when blitzing.
i meant Aoda and I'm saying it gets summoned after Raikage gets put in genjutsu.
I don't remember talking about the hawk but what stops Sasuke from covering it with susanoo?
If 3rd Raikage opts to use his one fingered hell stab, Sasuke can redirect it by smashing his arm with susanoo arm. If the 3rd Raikage has already been grabbed, he can't slice the susanoo arm.
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Nope, that wasn't the point. Point was that if Raikage uses that strategy, Sasuke can consistently engulf his body in flames which will burn through his body and wound him overtime.
We have evidence supporting that Sasuke's EMS was practically fully-developed.
- Manages to form PS.
- Manages to use PS on a level on par with Madara such as creating an armor for Kurama and shaping it around Kurama.
- Developed his Choku Tomoes.
- Tobirama stated that EMS Sasuke had the potential to surpass Madara. This is practically significant as Tobirama didn't believe this initially until after witness Sasuke's own Ocular Prowess develop.
- His EMS was commended by Madara.
All hints that his EMS was very much fully developed.
First of all, the rest is irrelevant. KCM Naruto failing to tag someone on V1 Raikage's speed caliber is not proof that EMS Sasuke cannot tag him when even MS Sasuke easily tagged V1 Raikage with a linear jab and EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke. :lol
Next, SM Naruto was trashed by Blind Madara and yet Madara w/ Hashirama's Senjutsu was forced on the defensive and commended EMS Sasuke for his movements. Guess who outplayed Sandaime Raikage? SM Naruto, so EMS Sasuke displaying superior speed and reflexes by a significant margin implies that he easily reacts to Sandaime Raikage, especially with Susano'o which is faster than Sasuke's own physical movements.
Please reread the manga and think things through before ridiculing my argument. :lol
First of all, Danzo did have Precognition through the multiple Sharingan on his arm and even Obito commented on Danzo's lack of perception with his Sharingan compared to Sasuke due to Sasuke being an Uchiha meaning that Danzo very well did have Precognition. I also assume that by you purposely avoiding my argument that you think Danzo perceiving an inexperienced MS User's Rib-Cage Susano'o and failing to physically react to it is worse than Dodai, not only reacting to Sandaime Raikage's speed with his back turned initially, but also managed to form a seal (so physically reacting to it) and performed a feint point-blank which is beyond ridiculous when Danzo possesses a Speed Advantage and Reaction Advantage through his Sharingan. If Dodai could do that while being vastly inferior to EMS Sasuke let alone MS Sasuke in a mere instant, then Sasuke certainly has ample time to trap him in a Gejutsu, evade his strike, and counter-attack with Enton/ Susano'o.
I'm not reading the rest as that's irrelevant to the discussion. I don't care what Raiton Armor does when EMS Sasuke has physically outperformed someone of Sandaime Raikage's speed caliber in the manga. I'll also mention and suggest that you shouldn't even claim that Susano'o Arrow has been reacted to before when 3T Kakashi barely warped it away from 20-30m with Kamui. Please don't even claim that it's easy to react to or else I'll post the scan with Base Naruto easily perceiving Sandaime Raikage's speed and Dodai physically outperforming him at point-blank. :lol
I knew you would mention this and I'm not stupid. SM Kabuto was certainly focused on Sasuke as the fight progressed, Sasuke always attempted to protect Itachi when he was in danger and showed general concern even when he was attacked even as an Edo. The thought that Kabuto overlooked Sasuke attempting to attack Kabuto when Sasuke was a few inches away from Itach is illogical. So yeah, Kabuto did anticipate Sasuke's attack, hence why he countered Sasuke's Kusanagi throw a second ago. He simply was caught off-guard because EMS Sasuke's Rib-Cage Susano'o was so fast.
Sandaime Raikage, unfortunately, isn't as perceptive or reflexive as SM Kabuto and EMS Sasuke at that point was inferior to the EMS Sasuke we're referring to, so EMS Sasuke can certainly grab Sandaime Raikage, catch in a Genjutsu or coat him in a large amount of Enton.
I don't need to. Tobirama was treated like trash by Madara yet Madara was forced on the defensive and commented on EMS Sasuke's abilities. EMS Sasuke outperformed Tobirama, it's as simple as that. Madara did have the Rinnegan, but I didn't disregard that. I considered it irrelevant as Madara easily countered Tobirama's blind-attack and obtained the advantage against Tobirama with his back-turned while having very little eye-contact and Tobirama was forced to warp away. It's as clear as day that EMS Sasuke's physical reactions > Tobirama's.
Rinnegan doesn't provide Precognition nor was it hinted and Hachibi states that the Rinnegan provided the Jins a Heightened Field of Vision whereas the Sharingan provided them better reactions:
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Making a distinction of what each Dojutsu provides to its user. It's now up to you to prove that the Rinnegan does provide its user Precognition.
Rinnegan Sasuke has a Tomoe Rinnegan which enables him to use both his EMS and Rinnegan abilities simultaneously. Madara doesn't have that, so I'm not sure why you're using that as an example. When Sasuke's Tomoes were gone, he couldn't use the Sharingan's abilities through his Rinnegan as shown in Gaiden, but could after the Tomoes returned.
Nope, because Raikage has faced an inferior Uchiha with his V1 Level Speed and was practically useless. Given that experience, it's more logical that he would use his Higher Level of speed to strike down a much stronger Uchiha and as I stated, Raikage was only shown to be able to amp his speed with Onoki and that makes sense as soon after Raikage's statement, Onoki decides to amplify Raikage's speed. Using your argument against you, you must also think that Raikage wasn't using V2 when he had Onoki tag along with him as his hair was not spiked up even though Raikage made it very clear that he wanted to amp his speed as high as he could to crush Madara's guard.
Your example doesn't even make sense. Raikage was on the defensive as he had to focus on multiple opponent and he doesn't possess the speed to crush their guard, so him wasting stamina using Bijuu Level Shunshins when he can't even crush their defense doesn't even remotely make sense.
Thanks for proving that it engulfed the flames entirely which are largely composed of Senjutsu which Sandaime Raikage doesn't have. If you do want to argue that it took time, please take into consideration of Itachi's physical condition before doing so. Sasuke wasn't hit as Itachi didn't focus the flames on Sasuke. That much is obvious. He had no intent on killing Sasuke and so I'm not sure why're you're making that point.
It wasn't even 5 minutes. All they had was one exchange and after Gaara appeared, he sliced off his arm and needed C to heal his arm. No more than 30-60 seconds honestly. Nice exaggeration.
And besides, that was Enton, not Amaterasu which is the ignition of the flames.
I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Juubi Jin have displayed far more durability than Sandaime Raikage yet Juubito was forced to block it. The fact that Juubito was forced to use Onmyoudon implies that EMS Sasuke's Flames (which wasn't even created through Amaterasu, but through Enton Kagutsuchi):
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Were deadly for even Juubito and so thus, he either had to block it, or use Onmyoudon. That in itself implies that EMS Sasuke's Amaterasu, let alone Enton is deadly to Sandaime Raikage.
Sasuke focused on Raikage, so the flames didn't ignite on the Samurai as he wasn't Sasuke's target. We even see this when Sasuke shifts his head at the time it takes for the flames to reach the Samurai:
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I seriously hope you're not suggesting that the Hachibi is less durable than simple armor.
Read the manga. Bee had to escape as he admitted that Sasuke was the strongest opponent he's ever faced. Hachibi even mentioned that he had the advantage, so B leaving meant that Amaterasu overwhelmed him to the point where he did have to escape. We even witness the Hachibi squirming and yelling in pain to the point where he could barely attack the team.
Amaterasu is a Ninjutsu, so like Ninjutsu, it improves upon the User's own Chakra Potency and Volume. Rikudou Chakra makes it stronger because it's a more Potent Chakra.
Please, I felt like the majority of your argument didn't even make sense, so do not lecture me on how my argument was weak and incoherent.
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And I countered the Post by proving Black lightning lifts the flames off his body and throws it back at sasuke. Aye 4 had zero problems fighting with the flames for a good time period. ZERO!
- Never performed PS alone, Iso Susanoo isnt PS, two different techs. It's a version of Susanoo similar to PS but he had Naruto's chakra to aid him in the transformation. Otherwise he would have solo'd transformed prior when fighting Juubito. And it was never ever everrrrrrr on madara's Leverl! His "PS" at best is about 30% of madara's Ps.
- Developed EMS, whats your point? Choku tomoes is simply EMS, and it took time for him to adjust and still couldnt best a blind man. Madara was blind and couldn't see that he had EMS, so he sensed the flow of his movements. Which is why he commented. That's like Onoki stating "Madara has EMS", to note he isnt regular.
- Had potential in the future. LMAO He never stated "Sasuke is equal or has surpassed Madara. You again took his statement out of context.
His EMS being fully develope doesn't mean he is expeirenced on the level of madara having it for years. lmmfao
EMS Sasuke striking speed isn't noted to be great. His Precog is what was noted, learn the difference. Him being able to hit Aye with out susanoo was never denied (useless, since everything is tanked). His Slow as susanoo being able to grab him is what is laughed at when KCM Naruto>>>>Every Susanoo in speed! If KCM Naruto couldnt tag him easily, Slow susanoo isn't grabing him. Not hard to comprehend unless you show facts of Susanoo arm being faster than KCM Naruto. Thought So!
And Sasuke Chidori'd a Stationary Aye, Not a Blitzing Aye. lmao Again, read the manga and learn the difference.
LMMFAO No he wasnt. He perfectly
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but was blown back from teh force of the assault. Again, learn the difference. He noted sasuke had the EMS because he needed a set of eyes untill he got his two back (
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, and later stole it), not "sasuke was too much". lmao And as seen HERE he couldn't counter a simple
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from madara just like Naruto despite him being point blank and with in arms reach. What is your excuse than? or did we forget? lmao But again all irrelevant Since KCM has better perception then SM Naruto. And it wasn't even Aye in charge of his body, it was Kabuto who didnt care since Ayes body was not going to be harmed by a SM rasengan. (he didnt know the strategy naruto had unfortunately). Its just like Tsunade fighting with Byakuyo activated, damage doesnt matter.Wait... What??????????????????????????? Danzo has Optic nerves, central retinal artery, central retina veins in his arm now? Lol No! Doesn't work like that.
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If Danzo could see through the izanagi Eyes he wouldn't have needed to KEEP LOOKING AT THEM TO SEE WHEN THEY CLOSED! lmao He had no control or awareness of the eyes closing. Would you know if your eye closed? yes or no?... Thought so.
Tobi commented on his lack of perception
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. lmmfao
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! Plus The Raikages>>>3 tomoe precog by a long shot! Aye with one arm was busting 5 Susanoo's asses with just V1 armor! What does expierence have to do with the speed of Susanoo arm? Nothing! Its speed is it's speed. Show feats of it being faster, ill wait. Then you state Izanagi 3 tomoe No expeirience danzo (which never gave him 3 tomoe abilities, fact!) was faster and better then a true Uchihas MS sasuke? lmmfao What? You stated his Izanagi Sharingans were better then the 2 MS sasuke had that even Itachi had problems with.... Delete your account please!
Dodai reacted to a standard speed (non blitz) Raikage trying to punch naruto not blitz. What is your point? Be reacted to standard strike Aye, that doesnt make him faster then A blitzing Aye. Learn the difference in striking speed and Blitz speed. Fact he didnt blitz naruto when Dodai saved him.
And again Genjutsu isnt striking speed so stop mentioning it when EMS Madara (who is lightyears better then sasuke. fact) couldnt catch Aye in Genjutsu untill he caught him off gaurd and grabbed then forced it. Sauske will never do that unless you are saying he's better then EMS/Senju/Rennigan/5 on 1 Madara now?
Owned, so you're trying to ignore it huh? Trust me, I know. Kakashi, danzo, SM Kabuto, Damaged/half dead obito have all reacted to it. And plenty other ninjas can as well (minato, Tobirama, Aye's, Itachi, Bee etc). It isnt the end all be all. lmao And again, you not reading the manga to see Base speed Aye striking Dodai and naruto. Please read the manga I beg you!
He was clearly focused On itachi! Learn the definition of "
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". Him countering Sasuke's attacks simply means he sensed and countered. Sauske's slow attacks were childs play. How was he cuaght off gaurd when he countered and dodged everything thing Sasuke tried in that scenerio? lmmfao Read the manga!!!! If Sasuks slow Susanoo arm was so fast why didnt he catch him? hahahahahEMS Sasuke can touch him all he wants. Susanoo of any level will not! Its cannon fact 5 Susanoo's from the best EMS user of all time couldn't catch V1 Aye. So unless youre saying Sasuke with EMS is better than 5 madara's with EMS please do better. I have facts on my side, you have nothing. V1 Speed>>>>5 EMS susanoo attempting to grab while aware. Manga fact
Wait what? Tobirama fought against A vastly superior Madara and lost off panel through unknown means. Sasuke fought a Blind madara and was read the ENTIRE TIME and owned! How about we compare 1 eye scenarios since they both fought 1 eyed madara. When sasuke also fought 1 eyed madara he was destroyed far worse with a blind side attack aswell!
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What's your excuse now? This is what you call a fair comparison. Why? Because both being compared are in the exact same scenerio agaisnt the same opponent. Tobirama>>>>>EMS Sasuke in terms of performance by a land slide! Madara need the Rods (just like against SM Hashirama) to best Tobirma's efforts. Yet sauke was simply stabbed. lmao again reread the manga and stop cherry picking what to post. Post all proof and facts.
Tobi, not Madara. whats your point? Show Rinnegan Madara and stop playing stupid. I showed a fact of Rinnengan sasuke using Amateratsu from the rennengan Eye. Manga fact. Or how about Rinngan Limbo clones matching Rikudo chakra Sasuke and Naruto? hmmmm Please read the mang.
3 tomoe cannot preform Amateratsu. Fact! Yet, Rinnegan Used a MS justu with out the EMS/MS popping up. This is indisputible proof that The rinnegan can preform MS/EMS justu's with the same eye. Unless you think Basic tomoes were the reason A MS jutsu was used....lmao Please stop,
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Are you even looking at the pictures anymore at this point? This is getting embarrassing at this point... smhWhere was onoki when he faced 5 V3 Susanoo's with 1 arm? I'll wait.
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Quit ignoring manga facts would you? And yes,
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do I need to draw and point o th epicture since you lack the skills? And even then Madara was no match for V2 aye, all he could do was Gaurd, not counter attack (like he normally does). Aye seen that and knew he was capable of gaurding which meant his speed was useless if he could block.Madara even praised him for his speed. Please please look at all the pictures!So him having caught one off gaurd and
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is him being on the defense? lol we clearly are reading different mangas.You said it instantly burns chakra, I proved that to be false kid. I have facts you do not. I have facts of it not burning through regular skin, Basic armor, and Bijuu skin. I have facts, you do not! Aye 4 had zero problems with the flames yet you think his dad would... joke you are.
He fought and talked with the flames with zero side effects. Manga fact!
Enton and Ama are the same black flames. This is naruto 101 kid. Enton just manipulates the flames in a way Ama from the other eye doesnt. Are you even a sasuke fan to not know that fact?
So let me get this straight. You bring up Juubito, stating he had to block or he was done for. I then show that whether he blocked or not meant nothing. Dont bring something up if you go back on your argument kid. Enton=Ama manga fact dude. where are you getting this BS that the flames are on different levels from? and he used the chakra from his back to get the flames off no diff. Please look at the pictures carefully!
I have facts of AMA being useless of Aye. Read the manga!
What? Its a fact it did. The hell are you reading? the samurai was hit and was burning!
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lmmfao what are you even reading at this point? This is getting sad. The 8 tails was perfectly fine despite that being a Tentacle clone feint being burned. Pain is one thing, burning and killing is another.
No, he was playing the entire time and was even noted that he didn't need to act the way he acted. V2 literally would have killed them off instantly! Spinning with the flames on his body would have created a fire storm killing sasukes team etc. Regular TBB GG. Please read the manga to know he didn't go all out. He literally stated he wanted to escape the village. What are you reading at this point?
Ama flames does not get hotter since its already the hottest flames. How can you do better then hottest??? Lmao Rikudo chakra isn't "stronger potent chakra", its an entirely different form of chakra all together like SM chakra is. Damn you know nothing do you?
Your lack of comprehending the manga is atrocious! This was a waste of time honestly but it was too easy to resist. I don't think I'll waste time with you seeing as you cannot look at simple pictures and ignore manga facts. You literally thought Enton fames were different from Ama flames. smh
Then Nagato should be able to use Susanoo considering its jutsu which needs both eyes to perform it.
what NX28 is saying Sasuke's Tomoe Rinnegan can cast Sharingan/MS/EMS jutsu which Normal Rinnegan hasn't done doing so.
Example:If Normal Rinnegan can do whatever MS/EMS can Madara would not have resorted to using EMS to cast genjutsu
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On other hand sasuke's Rinnegan can cast Genjutsu