my post flew right over your head there didn't it. He had to use a surprise tactic to defeat three of them, and deva, the main path, wasn't even among them. Against six there is no way he can win.
hey now don't let my posts get to you.
um Darui took two of them on at the same time, and the other three were chuunins and sealed ginkaku really quickly.
By feats, neither Sage jiraiya or sage naruto have an answer for a chibaku tensei. Neither Sage naruto nor jiraiya can defeat the six paths of pains while deva is ST every five seconds, asura is launching missiles, multiple boss summons are chasing them, and preta is absorbing any ninjutsu that either jiraiya or naruto manage to pull off.
Against nagato it is even worse, since he can activate preta at all times meaning frog katas are naruto/jiraiya's only options and they are not getting close to nagato when nagato is firing lasers and spaming massive shinra tenseis at them.
And all the ninja of the village were doing what when minato was fighting Tobi/rescuing kushina? Standing idley by waiting for minato to do all the fighting? No they were duking it out with the ninetails. So it really was minato and konoha vs Tobi and the ninetails.
Amazing completely amazing, especially since both gaara and oonoki have shown much more impressive feats in battle than either tsunade or mei have shown. I don't know how you judge a character's power verses anothers, I am guessing you go by your gut.
The real list has Mei and tsunade at the bottom, with A, oonoki and gaara at the top.
Why couldn't they take him as an edo? As an edo he was used so improperly that his entire arm was burned off before he shinra tenseied the flames away. As an edo, kabuto didn't even know nagato's limitations which is why he ended up getting sealed since kabuto was hoping that nagato would be more mobile.
Astounding. So Current Naruto, the guy who is beating kage-level opponents with just his clones and Sasuke uchiha, the guy who is suppose to be naruto's equal are not even in the top ten.
And you have jiraiya up there despite statements saying naruto had surpassed him from the beginning of the pain fight.
You also have Tobi as number five!? Tobi who can use all the rinnegan's powers + his own six paths of pain + space time ninjutsu + gedo mazo + intangibility + having unexplained regeneration + izanagi below hashirama and minato and madara. You do know that current tobi is basically edo madara with unkillabel six paths of jinchuriki pain, the space time, the gedo mazo, the intangibility and all that jazz. You have tobi as one above nagato, and according to you tobi was already stronger than nagato before he even got the rinnegan, so despite gaining the rinnegan, gaining his own six unkillable paths, and gaining gedo mazo, tobi doesn't move up in rank at all.
You also don't even have kabuto on the list, seeing as you put orochimaru on the list, I would hope that it was because of his edo tensei tech.
I fail to see how guys like hiruzen or hashirama would even inflict damage on Nagato being as nagato can constantly activate preta path, meaning all of their ninjutsu makes nagato stronger, and the only way that they can actually hurt nagato is if they go hand to hand, and then nagato has shinra tensei in order to keep them far away, and in case they do somehow get close he has asura armor that raped guys as physically strong as killer bee. not to mention he could always use the soul-ripping gedo mazo dragon, or chibaku tensei, attacks that hokage and hiruzen have neither the speed nor power to escape.
the real top ten is something like this:
1)Tobi
2) Kabuto
3)Madara w/ Rinegan
4)/5)Naruto/Sasuke
6)Nagato
7/8)Minato/Hiruzen
9)Itachi
10)Hashirama
that is it. By feats even itachi beats hashirama until the manga proves us otherwise.
PS I would love for you to go right now and make a thread featuring your top ten.
This will be the last post I reply to you. You clearly don't read the manga, so it is useless to argue with you.
Surprise tactics is a battle tactic. Nagato, your beloved, even admitted that Jiraiya would have defeated him had he known his secret. Naruto did. Stop ignoring what has happened in the manga.
Clearly you don't know what the phrase "couldn't care less" means". Here, I will save you a trip to google. It means I don't give a flying flip what you think. Which means you can't get to me and nothing you say towards me will ever bother me.
Lol, your points are completely retarded. Kakashi got raped by Itachi in 2.3 seconds. Does he suck? You are an idiot. A four on two assault is hard for any pair to overcome. You seem to underestimate Darui as well.
DEFEATING THE SIX PATHS IS ONE OF NARUTO'S BLASTED FEATS. Therefore, by your beloved feats, Naruto>Nagato. All those lovely abilities didn't stop him from being owned like a prisonbitch by Naruto. You are seriously ignorant and you need to read the bloody manga.
You idiot, Nagato doesn't have the chakra to keep up all those attacks, which is why he never spammed any of those.
You are seriously the only person on this site who says that it was Minato and Konoha. It was Minato one on one evertime. Then it was the village, WITHOUT Minato, attempting to hold off the Nine tails until Minato got back. Oh and if you read the manga, you would know by the time it was the village versus the 9 tails, Minato had already removed it from the control of Tobi. Read the damn manga and then come back to me.
You are truly an ignorant fool. Mei has two Kekkai Genkai. Gaara has his sand yes, but he doesn't have the experience. Onoki is old and throws his back out constantly. He is powerful, but I still have to put him at four due to his current age. I have already listed Tsunade's abilities. I'm starting to think you might read the manga, you just have the reading comprehension level of a second grader.
Lol presenting your list as the real one? You might want to put your ego in check. Gaara is the weakest of the Kage at this point. He might eventually surpass them all but all he can do is play defense and play offense from a safe distance. He is a one trick pony so to speak. Again, Onoki is way past his prime, although I think after reassessing my list, I will put him at third and Mei at four.
Are you retarded? He had unlimited chakra and the inability to die. Those are definitely to pluses for Nagato. Okay, he hoped he would be more mobile. Your point? Still doesn't take away from the fact that he lost to them fair and square. You are a serious Nagato fanboy.
Kabuto isn't on my list because I don't credit edo tensei as a tech. I credit it as outside help. It would be like including the sannin in the list as one. Kabuto uses the help of far more talented shinobi to actually be worth something. He sucks without it and is no where near the top ten without it.
The same effin way Naruto raped the paths. And if you even think to say SM Naruto is better than Hashirama, Hiruzen or Minato, you prove your ignorance completely.
Again, watch your ego. Ignorance and arrogance is a terrible combination and you teeter on that line.
By feats, Hashirama defeated Madara. Madara is the greatest Uchiha of all-time. Itachi is a Uchiha. Therefore, Hashirama can defeat Itachi. Itachi and Madara have the same techs.
I have multiple times and the only people who ever dispute my list is Kabuto fanboys and Minato haters.
Like I said, this is my last response to you. You can respond if you like, but I am not even going to read it. Some parting words:
READ THE DAMN MANGA!