So what are you eating your words that SM Naruto handed pain his a**?Didn't dispute Naruto had things going for you, just the fact that Pain got half his paths messed up by Jiraiya when he was clearly at a disadvantage.
Okay, and how many paths were fighting against jiraiya at that time? only 3. And among those three wasn't even the main path, deva. If all six were out, none of the paths would have been destroyed. If pain really wanted to kill jiraiya, jiraiya doesn't have an answer for chibaku tensei, or chou shinra tensei.
In your case overconfidence is a confidence issue.Note to you, truly intelligent people do not have confidence issues.
No they didn't suck because Kabuto chose to revive them. they suck because they were taken out by a mere high-jounin and the ino-shika-chou.Already told you, NO ONE could have avoided the COMBO attack.
Kin-Gin aren't anything, you are right. Which is why Kabuto revived them. Because they sucked. And since they sucked, an ambush by them isn't very hard to counter.
So basically you are saying that Pain > Jiraiya and Pain > Naruto. Sure. And statements mean jack squat when feats directly contradict them. From what pain has shown and what jiraiya has shown, pain would destroy him.Pain admitted that Jiraiya could have defeated him with knowledge of his paths. Jiraiya beat three of them without prior knowledge. Naruto beat them ALL with knowledge. Stop overrating Pain. He is an upper echelon shinobi, but not a God, as he liked to think. He only took his arms at the cost of his life because he realized that he was too old to sustain his attacks, so he decided to SACRIFICE himself for the village. Do you even read the manga?
And what point was that? When did Tobi and the ninetails simultaneously fight minato? I saw minato fighting Tobi while the entire village fought the ninetails, then minato sealing the ninetails and dieing. So if you really think about it, actually you don't even have to think about it and you would still realize that it was Minato and the entire leaf village vs Tobi and the Ninetails.Tobi had the Nine tails to help fight against Minato at one point. Again, do you even read the manga? And I love how you just tried to act like Tobi without the Rinnegan is some chump. Tobi without the Rinnegan made Nagato his little bitchboy in case you haven't noticed. Jutsu are what make a shinobi powerful...are you retarded? Did you think what makes them powerful is their charming looks?
And the tobi thing, that is why he waited till after nagato died in order to take the rinnegan from him.
Do you even read my posts? I never said he beat her, but he was pushing her in his fight even before he used the blood against her. And I said ONE OF THE WEAKEST. So tell me your order of the current five kages from strongest to weakest, I would love to hear the order. And just for your information, I don't even know why you brought tsunade into this thread since SHE ISNT EVEN INCLUDED IN TEAM 1.Is considered the weakest Kage BY FANS WHO KNOW NOTHING, don't forget that last part. She was overcoming her fear of blood. It was her first time encountering it. And she ended up forcing them to flee. I'll ask once more, do you even read the manga?
Didn't say he is unbeatable, but not beatable 1 vs 1 by any of the hokage. And are you then saying that one of the hokage can beat Bee, Itachi and Naruto at once?NAGATO LOST TO NARUTO! Three paths were beaten by Jiraiya with no prior knowledge. He was beaten by Bee, Itachi and Naruto, after his personality was removed and he was made basically invulnerable. He is not at all unbeatable. No where near it.
Just for the heck of it, please do two things. First list me your top ten shinobi except for the SO6P.
Next, list me from strongest to weakest, the current five kages. And please do it quickly, you took forever to post the last response, when since you proclaimed it yourself, you being way smarter than me should be able to read, think of a counterargument, and type it out at way faster speeds than I can.