Naruto/Sasuke - Hagoromo Power-Up Debate

[lndra]

If Hagoromo split his chakra and power between his two sons Indra and Ashura, tell me why Indra couldn't awaken the rinnegan? Exactly...

You're also forgetting the fact Hagoromo gave Sasuke yin chakra basically the half he gave Indra long ago, he didn't give Sasuke yang chakra (Ashura's half) which was the chakra he needs to awaken the rinnegan, he received that from Hashirama

When Sasuke first mentions he will use his power from hagoromo he brings out a black chidori

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The yin chakra he received from Hagoromo allowed his techniques to increase destructive wise, same goes with Naruto him having yang half he can recreate human organs, having the sages chakra also allowed him to obtain the sage of the six path mode which is basically his RM

At the end Sasuke lost the yin half of Hagoromo's chakra while Naruto lost his yang half U_U



You still don't get it Lol

Naruto was able to recreate things due to his yang chakra he got from Hagoromo, he loses that ability because he doesn't hold the chakra anymore, which also means he cant activate Rikudo Mode because it require sage chakra, its not hard to understand

No sage of the six path chakra equals to no sage of the six path mode :|

You don't get it do you, either?
Your missing the main compenent in which makes Sasuke's rinnegan unique. Uchiha + Ashura = Activates the Rinnegan.
Then what activates the Sharringan? Hagoromo's sage chakra.

-Sasuke's black chidori comes from the Yin seal itself like I explained already, and the numerous others before you.

- Naruto's coat ability came from the Yang seal itself, like I explained already, and the numerous others before you. That's why you see Naruto using COATS with that hand, and why you see Sasuke using Six Paths senjutsu with his seal hand aswell.

Your mistaking the power ups for the seals when they both give two different things.


So to clear this up to you.
Sasuke activating the Rinnegan (not just obtaining it) but activating it, like how the Uchiha's activate the Sharingan due to the chakra in their brains, Sasuke gets the power to summon it due to the Sage chakra hence why it's the - Sharringan.

Naruto can, and will always be able to use Rikudou Mode, and RSM as long as he keeps the Sage chakra longed into his body, same as Sasuke.

 

[IceSlayer]

You don't get it do you, either?
Your missing the main compenent in which makes Sasuke's rinnegan unique. Uchiha + Ashura = Activates the Rinnegan.
Then what activates the Sharringan? Hagoromo's sage chakra.

-Sasuke's black chidori comes from the Yin seal itself like I explained already, and the numerous others before you.

- Naruto's coat ability came from the Yang seal itself, like I explained already, and the numerous others before you. That's why you see Naruto using COATS with that hand, and why you see Sasuke using Six Paths senjutsu with his seal hand aswell.

Your mistaking the power ups for the seals when they both give two different things.


So to clear this up to you.
Sasuke activating the Rinnegan (not just obtaining it) but activating it, like how the Uchiha's activate the Sharingan due to the chakra in their brains, Sasuke gets the power to summon it due to the Sage chakra hence why it's the - Sharringan.

Naruto can, and will always be able to use Rikudou Mode, and RSM as long as he keeps the Sage chakra longed into his body, same as Sasuke.

The rinnegan has nothing to do with Hagoromo, Hagoromo gave Sasuke half the chakra he gave Indra, but that isn't what he needs to awaken the rinnegan he needs Ashura's half (yang) to get it, he did get it through hashirama

The seals don't hold any power, they're just seals to seal Kaguya, the powers are from the chakra given only, take Kakashi for example his power was from the Rikudo chakra he got from Obito since Obito was the juubi' jin (same chakra as the sage)

Both Sasuke and Naruto lost their half of Hagoromo's chakra, right? Sasuke loses his black chidori and Naruto loses his healing ability.... So tell me, how is Naruto powering his sage of the six path mode without sage chakra? And why didn't he use RM in the movie despite the world and Hinata being in danger? Also adding the fact the movie is canon? :|

Sasky has to lose his eye too then since kishi always say they are equal

Naruto still having Yang chakra has to also mean Sasuke still has his Yin chakra, meaning Sasuke's attacks are more destructive by ten folds, if he loses it so does Naruto U_U

 

[lndra]

The rinnegan has nothing to do with Hagoromo, Hagoromo gave Sasuke half the chakra he gave Indra, but that isn't what he needs to awaken the rinnegan he needs Ashura's half (yang) to get it, he did get it through hashirama

The seals don't hold any power, they're just seals to seal Kaguya, the powers are from the chakra given only, take Kakashi for example his power was from the Rikudo chakra he got from Obito since Obito was the juubi' jin (same chakra as the sage)

Both Sasuke and Naruto lost their half of Hagoromo's chakra, right? Sasuke loses his black chidori and Naruto loses his healing ability.... So tell me, how is Naruto powering his sage of the six path mode without sage chakra? And why didn't he use RM in the movie despite the world and Hinata being in danger? Also adding the fact the movie is canon? :|

I can see your finally able to see reason because I skimmed your post and you mentioned RSM in the Last, when you know Naruto as a character has no say in what abilities he uses and what he doesn't. The fact is that RSM with a team of lesser shinobi would outcast them (from a movie perspective). Other than that he was just nerfed so that he could compete with Toneri on equal level, obviously.

Sasuke activating the Rinnegan is different from the way Madara had. Hashirama was still the transmigrate for Ashura, while this Sasuke/Naruto were already transmigrates. So you can pretty much put two and two together.

As stated from someone on the first page, Sasuke had Hashirama cells used to heal his body rather than it being implanted in himself (hence why Madara had Hashirama's face in his torso). Otherwise Sasuke would have been able to use Mokuton = Prime Example A being Madara, which Sasuke has not shown. So no good sir.

Next you are mistaking the obvious Rinnegan. The Rinnegan in which the Sharingan evolves to is the Rinnegan with two purple ripples, like the one Nagato gained from Madara himself.

The Sharringan is a manifestation from the Shinju, which in turn Kaguya got, which in turn Hagoromo got from becoming the Juubi Jin. If you are saying Sasuke can manifest the Sharringan due to being an Uchiha + Ashura power then you are mistaken. That by itself is the necessary requirement for the Rinnegan, not the Sharringan.

The Seals = COATS for Naruto/Sage Senjutsu for Sasuke

The power ups = Sage chakra to combine Uchiha/Ashura to activate the Sharringan
Sage chakra to combine the Tailed beasts to activate Rikudou Sage Mode.

If you still have any doubts because you are not listening to reason, look at what Sasuke said himself:

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"Received"

Good talk guys.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

If Hagoromo split his chakra and power between his two sons Indra and Ashura, tell me why Indra couldn't awaken the rinnegan? Exactly...

You're also forgetting the fact Hagoromo gave Sasuke yin chakra basically the half he gave Indra long ago, he didn't give Sasuke yang chakra (Ashura's half) which was the chakra he needs to awaken the rinnegan, he received that from Hashirama

When Sasuke first mentions he will use his power from hagoromo he brings out a black chidori

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The yin chakra he received from Hagoromo allowed his techniques to increase destructive wise, same goes with Naruto him having yang half he can recreate human organs, having the sages chakra also allowed him to obtain the sage of the six path mode which is basically his RM

At the end Sasuke lost the yin half of Hagoromo's chakra while Naruto lost his yang half U_U



You still don't get it Lol

Naruto was able to recreate things due to his yang chakra he got from Hagoromo, he loses that ability because he doesn't hold the chakra anymore, which also means he cant activate Rikudo Mode because it requires sage chakra, its not hard to understand

No sage of the six path chakra equals to no sage of the six path mode :|

Stop stop stop. They lost their seals, but still maintained Rikkudo chakra.

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And what do we see several chapters later, after Naruto has been confirmed to loose the yang seal?

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Why, Rikkudo SM of course! Meaning the seal has absolutely no effect on Naruto's capability of mixing the biju chakra to gain RSM. There's no reason for you or official HB to think that Naruto lost it unless you're making a beyond temendous stretch to suggest that Naruto somehow lost all the bijus, but that makes no sense, since a piece of them always remains unless they're actually extracted. So you 2 have your opinion screwed over by the manga.

 

[lndra]

Stop stop stop. They lost their seals, but still maintained Rikkudo chakra.

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And what do we see several chapters later, after Naruto has been confirmed to loose the yang seal?

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Why, Rikkudo SM of course! Meaning the seal has absolutely no effect on Naruto's capability of mixing the biju chakra to gain RSM. There's no reason for you or official HB to think that Naruto lost it unless you're making a beyond temendous stretch to suggest that Naruto somehow lost all the bijus, but that makes no sense, since a piece of them always remains unless they're actually extracted. So you 2 have your opinion screwed over by the manga.

Thank you. lmao +rep

 

[IceSlayer]

I can see your finally able to see reason because I skimmed your post and you mentioned RSM in the Last, when you know Naruto as a character has no say in what abilities he uses and what he doesn't. The fact is that RSM with a team of lesser shinobi would outcast them (from a movie perspective). Other than that he was just nerfed so that he could compete with Toneri on equal level, obviously.

Sasuke activating the Rinnegan is different from the way Madara had. Hashirama was still the transmigrate for Ashura, while this Sasuke/Naruto were already transmigrates. So you can pretty much put two and two together.

As stated from someone on the first page, if Sasuke had gained Hashirama cells (instead of it being used to heal him) he would of been able to use Mokuton = Prime Example A being Madara, which Sasuke has not shown. So no good sir.

Next you are mistaking the obvious Rinnegan. The Rinnegan in which the Sharingan evolves to is the Rinnegan with two purple ripples, like the one Nagato gained from Madara himself.

The Sharringan is a manifestation from the Shinju, which in turn Kaguya got, which in turn Hagoromo got from becoming the Juubi Jin. If you are saying Sasuke can manifest the Sharringan due to being an Uchiha + Ashura power then you are mistaken. That by itself is the necessary requirement for the Rinnegan, not the Sharringan.

The Seals = COATS for Naruto/Sage Senjutsu for Sasuke

The power ups = Sage chakra to combine Uchiha/Ashura to activate the Sharringan
Sage chakra to combine the Tailed beasts to activate Rikudou Sage Mode.

If you still have any doubts because you are not listening to reason, look at what Sasuke said himself:

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"Received"

Good talk guys.

What's the point of the last scan? I did say Sasuke received abilities from the sage just like Naruto, Sasuke has destructive powers while Naruto has healing and RM

Look I'm not gonna go around in circles all day, if you wanna believe that Naruto still has Rikudo Mode then you can also believe Sasuke has his black chidori and increased destructive power in all his techniques

Here

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Definition 1


The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

Definition 2

The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo) is a heightened state of Sage Mode, which drastically empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by combining the Six Paths Sage Chakra and the chakra of all nine tailed beasts.

Without Sage chakra he can't go Rikudo Mode simple, if you can't accept that then, I honestly don't care....

Stop stop stop. They lost their seals, but still maintained Rikkudo chakra.

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And what do we see several chapters later, after Naruto has been confirmed to loose the yang seal?

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Why, Rikkudo SM of course! Meaning the seal has absolutely no effect on Naruto's capability of mixing the biju chakra to gain RSM. There's no reason for you or official HB to think that Naruto lost it unless you're making a beyond temendous stretch to suggest that Naruto somehow lost all the bijus, but that makes no sense, since a piece of them always remains unless they're actually extracted. So you 2 have your opinion screwed over by the manga.

The seals have nothing to do with the powers, Kakashi had Rikudo chakra and power for a brief time without the seals, the seals are only used to seal Kaguya, despite the seals disappearing Hagoromo still didn't regain his chakra and still needed help from the other kages to bring Team 7 back

Tell me how Naruto is able to maintain Sage chakra to activate Rikudo mode but Sasuke isn't able to maintain his to use black chidori?

He didn't lose it because of the seal, he might have lost it over time or when he released IT

 

[lndra]

What's the point of the last scan? I did say Sasuke received abilities from the sage just like Naruto, Sasuke has destructive powers while Naruto has healing and RM

Look I'm not gonna go around in circles all day, if you wanna believe that Naruto still has Rikudo Mode then you can also believe Sasuke has his black chidori and increased destructive power in all his techniques

Here

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Definition 1


The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

Definition 2

The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo) is a heightened state of Sage Mode, which drastically empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by combining the Six Paths Sage Chakra and the chakra of all nine tailed beasts.

Without Sage chakra he can't go Rikudo Mode simple, if you can't accept that then, I honestly don't care....

Sorry mate, but I can't help your level of understanding.
However this guy answers the questions I may or may not have answered due to your comprehension level.

Stop stop stop. They lost their seals, but still maintained Rikkudo chakra.

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And what do we see several chapters later, after Naruto has been confirmed to loose the yang seal?

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Why, Rikkudo SM of course! Meaning the seal has absolutely no effect on Naruto's capability of mixing the biju chakra to gain RSM. There's no reason for you or official HB to think that Naruto lost it unless you're making a beyond temendous stretch to suggest that Naruto somehow lost all the bijus, but that makes no sense, since a piece of them always remains unless they're actually extracted. So you 2 have your opinion screwed over by the manga.

 

[Kagustuchi]

I have a theory that their respective Indra and Ashura Chakra flourished after they gained Hagromo's Yin/Yang Chakra. As going by the manga, they're both around Hagromo's level.​

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[Sennin of Logic]

What's the point of the last scan? I did say Sasuke received abilities from the sage just like Naruto, Sasuke has destructive powers while Naruto has healing and RM

Look I'm not gonna go around in circles all day, if you wanna believe that Naruto still has Rikudo Mode then you can also believe Sasuke has his black chidori and increased destructive power in all his techniques

Here

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Definition 1


The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

Definition 2

The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo) is a heightened state of Sage Mode, which drastically empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by combining the Six Paths Sage Chakra and the chakra of all nine tailed beasts.

Without Sage chakra he can't go Rikudo Mode simple, if you can't accept that then, I honestly don't care....



The seals have nothing to do with the powers, Kakashi had Rikudo chakra and power for a brief time without the seals, the seals are only used to seal Kaguya, despite the seals disappearing Hagoromo still didn't regain his chakra and still needed help from the other kages to bring Team 7 back

Tell me how Naruto is able to maintain Sage chakra to activate Rikudo mode but Sasuke isn't able to maintain his to use black chidori?

He didn't lose it because of the seal, he might have lost it over time or when he released IT

Sasuke not using chidori. Really? That's your argument? Sigh. Sasuke didn't even use it against Kaguya.

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The fact that he didn't use it against Kaguya obviously shows no black chidori/=/no rikkudo chakra.


Sorry, but there's absolutely no reason to believe Naruto and Sasuke lost their rikkudo chakra. You'll have to supply actual evidence for that. In fact, the idea that they didn't is ludicrous! How the heck do you think Sasuke managed to use only chidori to destroy a meteor? The rinnegan does not enhance ninjutsu. Sure, it gives powerful jutsus, but it doesn't empower existing ninjutsu. So, right there, Sasuke demonstrated that Rikkudo chakra doesn't simply go away.

 

[lndra]

Sasuke not using chidori. Really? That's your argument? Sigh. Sasuke didn't even use it against Kaguya.

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The fact that he didn't use it against Kaguya obviously shows no black chidori/=/no rikkudo chakra.


Sorry, but there's absolutely no reason to believe Naruto and Sasuke lost their rikkudo chakra. You'll have to supply actual evidence for that. In fact, the idea that they didn't is ludicrous! How the heck do you think Sasuke managed to use only chidori to destroy a meteor? The rinnegan does not enhance ninjutsu. Sure, it gives powerful jutsus, but it doesn't empower existing ninjutsu. So, right there, Sasuke demonstrated that Rikkudo chakra doesn't simply go away.

Watch them say he lost it when they sealed the IT when Hagoromo clearly states:

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The power of ALL tailed beasts + Rinnegan = Not needing Naruto's Sage chakra, but the chakra of each bijuu. U_U

 

[IceSlayer]

Sorry mate, but I can't help your level of understanding.
However this guy answers the questions I may or may not have answered due to your comprehension level.

Sasuke's black chidori

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Upon gaining half of Hagoromo's power, Sasuke was able to empower his Chidori by infusing it with the Six Paths Chakra. Doing so, Sasuke was able to effectively combat Madara Uchiha as the Ten-Tails jinchūriki

Naruto Rikudo Mode

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The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

They got those powers exactly the same way but you make it seem like they achieved differently, all they did was combine sage chakra with their own techniques, you fail to realise that, anyway if you wanna believe he has it, then by all means go a head

 

[lndra]

Sasuke's black chidori

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Upon gaining half of Hagoromo's power, Sasuke was able to empower his Chidori by infusing it with the Six Paths Chakra. Doing so, Sasuke was able to effectively combat Madara Uchiha as the Ten-Tails jinchūriki

Naruto Rikudo Mode

Spoiler

The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

They got those powers exactly the same way but you make it seem like they achieved differently, all they did was combine sage chakra with their own techniques, you fail to realise that, anyway if you wanna believe he has it, then by all means go a head

So you have been beaten down by manga facts and another person to the mind set you resort to no logic behind your posts. When you stated the same thing a post ago, and got shot down by a manga panel or two.

Well when you can come back with actual facts in the manga in how Naruto lost RSM, when after losing the seals they still display Sage powers, go ahead and prove me wrong.

I'll be waiting U_U

Edit; Like I stated 5 times. Sasuke infused Chidori thanks to via the Yin seal for the Kaguya sealing, hence why Naruto used COAT with his Yang seal which was only used for the Kaguya sealing. They both had Hagoromo chakra in them, why do you think Naruto restored Kakashi's eyes/Gai's life-force yet couldn't resurrect his own arm? Cause the seal is gone.


Keep denying it man, because your denial is real.

 

[IceSlayer]

So you have been beaten down by manga facts and another person to the mind set you resort to no logic behind your posts. When you stated the same thing a post ago, and got shot down by a manga panel or two.

Well when you can come back with actual facts in the manga in how Naruto lost RSM, when after losing the seals they still display Sage powers, go ahead and prove me wrong.

I'll be waiting U_U

Edit; Like I stated 5 times. Sasuke infused Chidori thanks to via the Yin seal for the Kaguya sealing, hence why Naruto used COAT with his Yang seal which was only used for the Kaguya sealing. They both had Hagoromo chakra in them, why do you think Naruto restored Kakashi's eyes/Gai's life-force yet couldn't resurrect his own arm? Cause the seal is gone.


Keep denying it man, because your denial is real.

So your saying the seals gave out the powers? Lol

Should I even waste my time arguing with you? Even when the seals returned to Hagoromo the dude still had no chakra and borrowed the kages to bring back team 7 to earth

The power source were the chakra not the seals....

Sasuke not using chidori. Really? That's your argument? Sigh. Sasuke didn't even use it against Kaguya.

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The fact that he didn't use it against Kaguya obviously shows no black chidori/=/no rikkudo chakra.


Sorry, but there's absolutely no reason to believe Naruto and Sasuke lost their rikkudo chakra. You'll have to supply actual evidence for that. In fact, the idea that they didn't is ludicrous! How the heck do you think Sasuke managed to use only chidori to destroy a meteor? The rinnegan does not enhance ninjutsu. Sure, it gives powerful jutsus, but it doesn't empower existing ninjutsu. So, right there, Sasuke demonstrated that Rikkudo chakra doesn't simply go away.

Sasuke's black chidori

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Upon gaining half of Hagoromo's power, Sasuke was able to empower his Chidori by infusing it with the Six Paths Chakra. Doing so, Sasuke was able to effectively combat Madara Uchiha as the Ten-Tails jinchūriki

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Naruto Rikudo Mode

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The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

Like I said before they achieved those powers exactly the same way, Sasuke combined his half of Hagoromo's chakra with his chidori while Naruto combined it with his kyuubi mode

Its all there

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Hagoromo only gave them the seals. Naruto unlock his other powers through unknown means, and Sasuke got his power from Ashura's chakra, through Hashirama's cells.

You are wrong

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[lndra]

So your saying the seals gave out the powers? Lol

Should I even waste my time arguing with you? Even when the seals returned to Hagoromo the dude still had no chakra and borrowed the kages to bring back team 7 to earth

The power source were the chakra not the seals....



Sasuke's black chidori

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Upon gaining half of Hagoromo's power, Sasuke was able to empower his Chidori by infusing it with the Six Paths Chakra. Doing so, Sasuke was able to effectively combat Madara Uchiha as the Ten-Tails jinchūriki

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Naruto Rikudo Mode

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The Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo).[1] is achieved by Naruto through combining the chakra of the nine tailed beasts with the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It takes on a similar appearance as his Sage Mode, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode and Tailed Beast Mode cloak. It enhances Naruto's abilities, allows him to use Truth-Seeking Balls, and enhance his Tailed Beast Mode cloak of Kurama as well.

Like I said before they achieved those powers exactly the same way, Sasuke combined his half of Hagoromo's chakra with his chidori while Naruto combined it with his kyuubi mode

Its all there

Are you honestly stupid? Or are you just trolling now :l

- Hagoromo unlocked RSM/Sharringan in both Naruto/Sasuke. Read the entire thread, I have no time to waste on repeating myself.
- The seals gave out their own power so that they could seal Kaguya. Yang Seal - Coats, Yin Seal - Six Paths Senjutsu.

Hence why Naruto never displayed COATS during his fight with Sasuke, hence why Sasuke never used Senjutsu during his fight with Naruto. Should I say more?

I already stated where they're powers came from, if you can't read that's not my problem. You would think the power came from the seals because you can't read my posts correctly, possibly due to some reason of trolling, but I'm sure you aren't that slow.



Now let me correct you for the 5th time.
- Sasuke's seal is Hagoromo's chakra/Same with Naruto's
He says it right here:

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Sasuke's Sharringan came from the Sage's chakra, but Sasuke had the necessary requirements for the Rinnegan, the Sage chakra activated the Sharringan.

Naruto with Sage chakra activated the RSM, he had the necessary requirements for RSM, but he could not combine the Tb's by himself.


Your literally saying the same thing over and you are continuing to be proven wrong, each time. I can't even express my level of cognizance over your logical intelligence. Where are you getting this from man? I can't even take you seriously anymore, let alone trust your posts.

 

[lndra]

You are wrong

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lmao. Finally someone who reads the manga, go show this to that r-tard named Devil-Slayer.
I don't even know why I try anymore

 

[KidGamer65]

I can't even tell who's arguing for what stance anymore, but to anyone who is reading, these are the facts.

-Naruto and Sasuke did NOT lose the power Hagoromo gave them. Sasuke retained his Rinnegan and his Six Path's Chakra, otherwise his Susanoo wouldn't be as strong as it was shown to be, nor would he be able to combat a user of the Gudo Dama w/ ordinary Ninjutsu. Naruto's Six Path's Sage Mode is a product of mixing the Bijuu's power and Six Path's Sage Chakra. You need Six Path's Chakra for Six Path's Sage Chakra. Naruto had RSM after sealing Kaguya, and there is nothing that'd cause him to lose that form after his fight with Sasuke.

-Naruto and Sasuke's powers are independent from Hagoromo's Sun-Moon Seals. Hagoromo gave each person one half of his chakra, and one seal. When the seal was used, they lost it, but kept their powers. Proof they are independent. The power they got (Six Path's Sage Mode and Rinnegan) are results of the Six Path's Chakra, which is a result of Hagoromo simply giving it to them, not because of the seals.

 

[lndra]

I can't even tell who's arguing for what stance anymore, but to anyone who is reading, these are the facts.

-Naruto and Sasuke did NOT lose the power Hagoromo gave them. Sasuke retained his Rinnegan and his Six Path's Chakra, otherwise his Susanoo wouldn't be as strong as it was shown to be, nor would he be able to combat a user of the Gudo Dama w/ ordinary Ninjutsu. Naruto's Six Path's Sage Mode is a product of mixing the Bijuu's power and Six Path's Sage Chakra. You need Six Path's Chakra for Six Path's Sage Chakra. Naruto had RSM after sealing Kaguya, and there is nothing that'd cause him to lose that form after his fight with Sasuke.

-Naruto and Sasuke's powers are independent from Hagoromo's Sun-Moon Seals. Hagoromo gave each person one half of his chakra, and one seal. When the seal was used, they lost it, but kept their powers. Proof they are independent. The power they got (Six Path's Sage Mode and Rinnegan) are results of the Six Path's Chakra, which is a result of Hagoromo simply giving it to them, not because of the seals.

I sense KidGamer65 about to solo my posts with less than two paragraphs!

He sure did.

 

[IceSlayer]

Lmao stay butthurt Lol

Its been confirmed by the novel and by the spoilers that Naruto doesn't use RM, why is that? The movie is canon right? Considering how they showed Sasuke's rinnegan... If you believe he still has it then go a head, I honestly don't care

 

[lndra]

Lmao stay butthurt Lol

Its been confirmed by the novel and by the spoilers that Naruto doesn't use RM, why is that? The movie is canon right? Considering how they showed Sasuke's rinnegan... If you believe he still has it then go a head, I honestly don't care

Wow. You're still talking like you're relevant in this conversation. You got proven wrong like ... how many times already?
Please show me where the novel states that Sasuke fights Toneri.
Cause if he didn't then it's justified that they wouldn't allow Naruto to fight Toneri at his strongest form, RSM.

Next Kishimoto helped write Naruto the Last, when SP were the ones who had their hands all over it.

Your basically saying because Naruto didn't show his RSM in a movie, he doesn't have it all? Your claiming those other 20+ people to be liars and idiots? Go look at yourself.

Stay butthurt son.