Kisame vs Minato

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This isn't even relevant anymore since the flood itself can't hurt anyone, so he doesn't need to evade it.

Never said the flooding will kill or hurt anyone i was using it so he cannot mark the ground or any other objects with ftg since water is impossible to mark because it has no physical properties.

If he jumps over and past it, the attack has missed and that the end of it. There is no "Wait for him to land". These aren't summoned sharks, they are merely a jutsu.
@bold: I don't know if you can read the manga or not, but 1000 feeding sharks is to go in a straight line toward its target. S/T Barrier warps it away..

so you honestly belive the shark just attack in one straight line im about to prove this wrong even in that scan you posted they're are to many sharks for st barrier to be a problem because it only suck in things that straight forward the person with the barrier that tech is used for something that is going straight to him the water shark are metors above human size plus they are used in a rain like attack or a giant wave he is attack forward and from the top also your implying water sharks only attack in one formation witch they dont

chakra is released into the water, changing it into the form of five ferocious sharks. The sharks circle the target with high speed, creating a raging stream that takes away their prey's freedom of movement and their sharp teeth tear into the enemy with each consecutive attack. In the anime, these sharks can regenerate from surrounding water, making them difficult to destroy.

They are shown to circle their they have some sense of direction like it or not and i say this again s/t barrier has to release everything it sucks up where will he release them thats out of kisame's water range?



You made the claim, you prove it. The manga has stated both functions to be separate, not intertwined. Minato doesn't teleport to markings because they have his chakra. He teleports to markings because they are markings. Nothing else. Where has it been shown, stated or implied that the markings were made from chakra? Sealing Formulas aren't made of chakra.

made zero sense here he teleports because they're marking minato said he needs a chakra connection to warp things his marking have chakra in them hence he can teleport with using a marking.

@underlined: When something goes against your argument, you don't claim "Mistranslation" Its not a mistranslation, Edo Tensei just isn't as good as others made it seem. Infinite Chakra was already shown to be bullshit when the Edo Hokage had a clone limit while holding up the barrier.

Edos have infinite chakra madara confirmed this because you have infinite chakra doesnt mean you can go beyond your chakra limits hence why madara cant use bushin that can use perfect susanoo because they split the chakra while madara himself can hold perfect susanoo forever plus if they wanted to keep the barrier strong they would need the strongest of the chakra to do so thats why madara was destroying hashirama bushin with such little effort and why the real hashirama could only use sm why his buhsin could not
 

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kisame should win. this is like comparing a light-weight fighter to a heavy-weight. speed wont matter at all!
 

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No, they wouldn't. A Marking being covered up doesn't mean that the markings lose their effectiveness.

never said they loses their effectiveness but his ftg are useless water shark could easily eat the kunai or keep them traped in a water bubble like they had team gai

Then Bunta fodderizes the sharks blocking his path and he keeps on swimming, granting Minato a ticket out of the Water Dome.

how is bunta goint to fodderize 500 sharks plus more attack him from every direction stop with the bullshit also kisame could kill minato in the water before bunta reaches the end anyways

@bold: Lmao, not sure if serious. A WATER Jutsu is useless UNDERWATER? Lets ask Kisame?

Oops, it seems he disagrees with you.

Not sure if your serious since when is hirudora is a water jutsu? like i said water bullets arnt doing shit to water sharks in 500 of them at that
 

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Unorthodox don't be silly. How can a water jutsu be slow in water?
 

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Once Kisame floods the terrain with his own water filled with his own chakra Minato can't spread markings on the ground as he'd have to flow his own chakra through Kisames...Which is impossible
 

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Minato could win if he got Kisame early, but once Kisame starts bringing out his big arsenal things get pretty tough for Minato.

I don't see Kisame landing a solid kill shot on him though.
 

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Minato wins high difficulty I think.
 

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never said they loses their effectiveness but his ftg are useless water shark could easily eat the kunai or keep them traped in a water bubble like they had team gai

Eating them only makes it easier for Minato spread his markings around. The marking being covered doesn't stop it from working, so why would putting it in water do any better?



how is bunta goint to fodderize 500 sharks plus more attack him from every direction stop with the bullshit also kisame could kill minato in the water before bunta reaches the end anyways
Kisame can't create 500 water sharks from all directions. He can make 1000 feeding sharks that rain down on the enemy as shown in the manga, but then S/T Barrier can counter it, or he can create 5 feeding sharks, each from the tips of his fingers, as shown in the manga. The only one who should stop with the bullshit is you.

Not sure if your serious since when is hirudora is a water jutsu? like i said water bullets arnt doing shit to water sharks in 500 of them at that

Great Shark Bullet is a water jutsu you clown.

Once Kisame floods the terrain with his own water filled with his own chakra Minato can't spread markings on the ground as he'd have to flow his own chakra through Kisames...Which is impossible

Lol.......what? :| I'm just going to sit back and wonder how in the world this even begins to make sense.

Never said the flooding will kill or hurt anyone i was using it so he cannot mark the ground or any other objects with ftg since water is impossible to mark because it has no physical properties.

a Kunai floating in the water still works. It isn't some magical water that will negate Minato's technique. He doesn't need to mark the water itself, and a Kunai will still float or sink, either way its still useful and can be warped to.



so you honestly belive the shark just attack in one straight line im about to prove this wrong even in that scan you posted they're are to many sharks for st barrier to be a problem because it only suck in things that straight forward the person with the barrier that tech is used for something that is going straight to him the water shark are metors above human size plus they are used in a rain like attack or a giant wave he is attack forward and from the top also your implying water sharks only attack in one formation witch they dont


I don't know if you are blind or not, but those sharks are all moving in one direction, toward Minato, so they get sucked in. He creates the barrier, they run into it and they get sucked in. I don't know how hard that is for you to understand.

And yes, this particular jutsu attacks only how it is shown to attack in the manga.

They are shown to circle their they have some sense of direction like it or not and i say this again s/t barrier has to release everything it sucks up where will he release them thats out of kisame's water range?

Read above, and as I said, markings can be spread.




made zero sense here he teleports because they're marking minato said he needs a chakra connection to warp things his marking have chakra in them hence he can teleport with using a marking.

No connection was ever stated in the manga, you are merely inventing bullshit to benefit your argument. Try again. Try harder.


Edos have infinite chakra madara confirmed this because you have infinite chakra doesnt mean you can go beyond your chakra limits hence why madara cant use bushin that can use perfect susanoo because they split the chakra while madara himself can hold perfect susanoo forever plus if they wanted to keep the barrier strong they would need the strongest of the chakra to do so thats why madara was destroying hashirama bushin with such little effort and why the real hashirama could only use sm why his buhsin could not

It means that your chakra always regenerates after its used up. Nothing else is supported by the manga. If that wasn't the case, then Minato would have had chakra. Tobirama wouldn't have been weakened after Madara's rod was removed.


Bro did you see how many shark kisame summoned?? More than Asakujaku. Bunta won't take them out at once. He takes some out while others would still be attacking him and he'll die. None of them can swim as fast in water. The other clones would be practically useless against the sharks in water. If Minato teleports to them, Kisame would still end up changing directions and the water dome would keep moving towards the direction in which they're trying to escape.

Bunta doesn't need to take those out, S/T Barrier is for the 1000 feeding sharks jutsu, anything else ( ) can be handled by a space time barrier. So there is no issue here.
 

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Bunta doesn't need to take those out, S/T Barrier is for the 1000 feeding sharks jutsu, anything else ( ) can be handled by a space time barrier. So there is no issue here.

Ok convincing points. Hmmmm you countered Kisame's arsenal. The only thing left is his healing ability.
 

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I think KG almost finished this

OT - Minato wins this High diff.If minato tags kisame then it is a blitz
 

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Kisame mid diff. Minato lacks firepower to take Kisame down, kunai stabs/slashes won't cut it. Rasengan will be absorbed. And even if it didn't, Kisame could just use Samehada to heal himself.
 

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Ok convincing points. Hmmmm you countered Kisame's arsenal. The only thing left is his healing ability.

Yeah, that's the issue. Due to Minato's lack of firepower, I'm pretty sure he can't do anything about it, so Kisame would probably outlast him.
 

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Yeah, that's the issue. Due to Minato's lack of firepower, I'm pretty sure he can't do anything about it, so Kisame would probably outlast him.

His healing is what really screws Minato. This is what I see happening if Kisame gets tagged:
-Minato teleports to kisame and stabs him with a kunai
-minato loses chakra since he touched kisame. Kisame heals and begins to counterattack
-minato teleports away. He tries again, with a rasengan, thinking that may work
-rasengan gets absorbed/healed and minato goes dry of chakra since he touched kisame again
 

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Yeah, that's the issue. Due to Minato's lack of firepower, I'm pretty sure he can't do anything about it, so Kisame would probably outlast him.

His healing is what really screws Minato. This is what I see happening if Kisame gets tagged:
-Minato teleports to kisame and stabs him with a kunai
-minato loses chakra since he touched kisame. Kisame heals and begins to counterattack
-minato teleports away. He tries again, with a rasengan, thinking that may work
-rasengan gets absorbed/healed and minato goes dry of chakra since he touched kisame again

Thats what Ma+Pa is for.
 

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Where are all the decapitation comments. :O
 

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Based on the current arguments I give this to minato, his speed and usage of ftg is simply too much for this trash.
 

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His healing is what really screws Minato. This is what I see happening if Kisame gets tagged:
-Minato teleports to kisame and stabs him with a kunai
-minato loses chakra since he touched kisame. Kisame heals and begins to counterattack
-minato teleports away. He tries again, with a rasengan, thinking that may work
-rasengan gets absorbed/healed and minato goes dry of chakra since he touched kisame again

Possibly. Its the only issue I can see here.

Thats what Ma+Pa is for.

He barely even uses Sage Mode, why would he use Ma and Pa in character?
 
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