Kisame vs Minato

[Beans2]

Location: Kisame vs Killer Bee
Intel: Kisame knows Minato as the Yellow Flash and knows the basics behind FTG. Minato knows Kisame is a suiton user and a member of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen.
Conditions: Kisame has Samehada. Minato is alive and does not have access to edo powers.
Starting Distance: 50 meters
Restrictions: Reaper Death Seal

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[Gold Lightning]

Distance???

 

[Beans2]

Distance???

50 meters.

 

[Akasuna]

Interesting match-up. I honestly believe Kisame takes this high difficulty more times than not primarily due to the fact that he is quite frankly invincible to Minato once he fused with Samehada, seeing as Rasengan is simply concentrated chakra.

Kisame can quite frankly possibly react to FTG same as Bi did, seeing as they have more or less the same amount of intel in their respective scenarios.

 

[LuckyMan]

Minato wins low difficulty. He summons Ma+Pa and they fuse on his shoulders then Frog Sound Genjutsu. GG.

 

[Dark Riku]

Minato wins this since Kisame doesn't have a counter for FTG.

 

[Unorthodox]

Kisame wins against alive minato everytime water dome following giant see of sharks

 

[Akasuna]

Minato wins this since Kisame doesn't have a counter for FTG.

Samehada says hello. I believe it's save to say Minato's Rasengan isn't doing much to a guy that survived a point blank V1 Lariat from Bi, while Bi's base Lariat was overpowering Ay's V2 Lariat. This is all assuming Samehada doesn't absorb the Rasengan

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. Worst case scenario, even if Samehada can't absorb the entire Rasengan it at least absorbs enough to throw off the stabilization required to effectively use the technique.

I typically don't indulge, but I'd maybe be up for debating this. Nothing official, of course.

 

[LuckyMan]

Samehada says hello. I believe it's save to say Minato's Rasengan isn't doing much to a guy that survived a point blank V1 Lariat from Bi, while Bi's base Lariat was overpowering Ay's V2 Lariat. This is all assuming Samehada doesn't absorb the Rasengan

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. Worst case scenario, even if Samehada can't absorb the entire Rasengan it at least absorbs enough to throw off the stabilization required to effectively use the technique.

I typically don't indulge, but I'd maybe be up for debating this. Nothing official, of course.

What is Kisame's counter to Frog Genjutsu?

 

[Akasuna]

What is Kisame's counter to Frog Genjutsu?

Assuming you're referring to Frog Song, I don't believe the battle reaches that far before Kisame is able to end it. Water Dome is perhaps a suitable counter to it, what with the reduced visibility of the person in it.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Minato Can Blitzes & Kills Kisame Quite Easily Before He Can Do Enything...He Doesn't Need FTG...His Shinshin Is Enough...

 

[Apêx1]

Samehada says hello. I believe it's save to say Minato's Rasengan isn't doing much to a guy that survived a point blank V1 Lariat from Bi, while Bi's base Lariat was overpowering Ay's V2 Lariat. This is all assuming Samehada doesn't absorb the Rasengan

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. Worst case scenario, even if Samehada can't absorb the entire Rasengan it at least absorbs enough to throw off the stabilization required to effectively use the technique.

I typically don't indulge, but I'd maybe be up for debating this. Nothing official, of course.

If Minato tags him, it's already over. Surviving blunt force doesn't equate to being resistant to penetrative attacks. Minato cut through Hachibi's tail with little difficulty, and then tagged him. Given the fact he is capable of already establishing contact the second he Hirashin's to Kisame after he has tagged him, instead of relying on striking speed. Either way, Minato can keep this up, whereas Kisame cannot. Once he's tagged, which is inevitable, it is over.

 

[Dark Riku]

Samehada says hello. I believe it's save to say Minato's Rasengan isn't doing much to a guy that survived a point blank V1 Lariat from Bi, while Bi's base Lariat was overpowering Ay's V2 Lariat. This is all assuming Samehada doesn't absorb the Rasengan

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. Worst case scenario, even if Samehada can't absorb the entire Rasengan it at least absorbs enough to throw off the stabilization required to effectively use the technique.

I typically don't indulge, but I'd maybe be up for debating this. Nothing official, of course.

I think you have a point,though i still think it can go either way.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Samehada says hello. I believe it's save to say Minato's Rasengan isn't doing much to a guy that survived a point blank V1 Lariat from Bi, while Bi's base Lariat was overpowering Ay's V2 Lariat. This is all assuming Samehada doesn't absorb the Rasengan

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. Worst case scenario, even if Samehada can't absorb the entire Rasengan it at least absorbs enough to throw off the stabilization required to effectively use the technique.

I typically don't indulge, but I'd maybe be up for debating this. Nothing official, of course.

Nice points; Another thing to note is Kisame's body has a

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. Raw chakra like the one Aoba had tried to use to immobilize Kisame was actually absorbed, Kisame even sucked it from his body and made him fatigued quickly. A Rasengan won't do much to Kisame when this is taken into consideration.

Large toads and jamming a kunai into Kisame's skull is really the only way I see Minato winning this. I won't bother to mention the lack of evidence there is to assume Minato can summon Ma and Pa.

 

[Akasuna]

If Minato tags him, it's already over. Surviving blunt force doesn't equate to being resistant to penetrative attacks. Minato cut through Hachibi's tail with little difficulty, and then tagged him. Given the fact he is capable of already establishing contact the second he Hirashin's to Kisame after he has tagged him, instead of relying on striking speed. Either way, Minato can keep this up, whereas Kisame cannot. Once he's tagged, which is inevitable, it is over.

Not exactly. Kisame has already tanked a

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, Raiton chakra or not. Minato hasn't shown the ability to coat his weapons with chakra, so I don't see how any of his Taijutsu attacks are doing anything more to Kisame than said blade did.

 

[DMT]

I honestly think with 50m kisame can win high difficulty .

 

[LuckyMan]

Nice points; Another thing to note is Kisame's body has a

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. Raw chakra like the one Aoba had tried to use to immobilize Kisame was actually absorbed, Kisame even sucked it from his body and made him fatigued quickly. A Rasengan won't do much to Kisame when this is taken into consideration.

Large toads and jamming a kunai into Kisame's skull is really the only way I see Minato winning this. I won't bother to mention the lack of evidence there is to assume Minato can summon Ma and Pa.

Why wouldn't he be able to summon Ma and Pa. I'm interested in why you think he can't.

 

[sharingansennin]

Minato wins low difficulty. He summons Ma+Pa and they fuse on his shoulders then Frog Sound Genjutsu. GG.

feats of him using this? he's never shown to use ma & pa

Parent jutsu

Sage Mode

this is from Naruto wikia last time i checked Minato having sage mode was an edo feat so no go

 

[Unorthodox]

Why wouldn't he be able to summon Ma and Pa. I'm interested in why you think he can't.

because he is not a sage nor can he use their sage energy plus sound genjutsu can be counterd anyways

 

[LuckyMan]

feats of him using this? he's never shown to use ma & pa

Parent jutsu

Sage Mode

this is from Naruto wikia last time i checked Minato having sage mode was an edo feat so no go

He has a contract with all the toads. Thats like saying Orochimaru can't summon Aoda because he's never done it.

His sage mode was not an edo feat because to even learn sage mode he would have to have learned it when he was alive.....

because he is not a sage nor can he use their sage energy plus sound genjutsu can be counterd anyways

I can't respond to you anymore bro.

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