Kisame vs Minato

[Gold Lightning]

His sensing is far inferior to that of a Sennin Mode user. On multiple occasions he's been taken off guard and wasn't able to sense while he was fighting Kuro Zetsu. Being able to sense properly and the added boost to stats could have made him more useful.

Keeping Sennin Mode on would have given him proper Sensing, increased strength, increased speed, and increased reactions. All of which would have been better to have than not or used to help with supporting Gai.​

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He had already switched back to sensor type, so his sensing ability was on. Using sage sensing wasn't going to change anything since Madara is the only enemy in front of them. What the hell would minato be needing sensing for in that situation, especially when guy is doing the fighting.

Minato can barely stand with no arms, since most of your balance is gone, you saw him fall over before. All your comments are irrelevant because he already said he could no longer fight properly, sage mode or not. That's why he needed Lee, Gaara and Kakashi to assist him. Sage minato cannot fight Madara because Madara is too powerful so it's pointless. FTG is instant so sage mode cannot enhance that.

If he really needed sage mode then he would've re entered it again before helping guy during all the time he was standing there doing nothing. But he already said it was pointless since he had no arms. Jeez.

 

[Kagustuchi]

He had already switched back to sensor type, so his sensing ability was on. Using sage sensing wasn't going to change anything since Madara is the only enemy in front of them. What the hell would minato be needing sensing for in that situation, especially when guy is doing the fighting.

Minato can barely stand with no arms, since most of your balance is gone, you saw him fall over before. All your comments are irrelevant because he already said he could no longer fight properly, sage mode or not. That's why he needed Lee, Gaara and Kakashi to assist him. Sage minato cannot fight Madara because Madara is too powerful so it's pointless. FTG is instant so sage mode cannot enhance that.

If he really needed sage mode then he would've re entered it again before helping guy during all the time he was standing there doing nothing. But he already said it was pointless since he had no arms. Jeez.

So your still arguing that Minato is an idiot. Having no arms means he should have kept Sennin Mode on to try and compensate.

Back to sensor mode? You just proved my point. He can't fight and sense at the same time, all the more reason to keep Sennin Mode.

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[Gold Lightning]

So your still arguing that Minato is an idiot. Having no arms means he should have kept Sennin Mode on to try and compensate.

Back to sensor mode? You just proved my point. He can't fight and sense at the same time, all the more reason to keep Sennin Mode.

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Wow, you are just something else.

Minato said "Besides, Now I can't make seals. I don't think I can fight properly" (something along those lines). The "besides" part of his statement means that sage mode or not, it didn't matter since he can't perform jutsu. Do you really think Minatos sage mode would've made any difference against Madara's sage mode? NO! Absolutely none, Juubi Madara is on a different level, for the last time, it was pointless since minato could no longer fight. If he says he can no longer to fight, then sage mode isn't changing anything. His sage mode was eventually gonna run out anyway so why no point in keeping it up when you can't even fight anymore.

Tell me exactly what you think sensing is supposed to help minato do against a Madara who is fighting 8 gates guy? I just told you that he was currently in sensor mode, so why would he need sage mode when he can still sense. And both Kurama and minato were distracted before which is why they couldn't sense.

 

[Multiply]

Minato takes this tbh. Once Kisame is tagged, that's it. People are saying he could react but how? Minato can choose to teleport to any side of your body, in any way he wants.

@The Kisame absorbs Rasengan with his skin argument; that's so retarded it's not worth a proper counter.

The only way Kisame wins is water dome, but this match is over way before it gets to that.

Minato Med-high difficulty.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Wow, you are just something else.

Minato said "Besides, Now I can't make seals. I don't think I can fight properly" (something along those lines). The "besides" part of his statement means that sage mode or not, it didn't matter since he can't perform jutsu. Do you really think Minatos sage mode would've made any difference against Madara's sage mode? NO! Absolutely none, Juubi Madara is on a different level, for the last time, it was pointless since minato could no longer fight. If he says he can no longer to fight, then sage mode isn't changing anything. His sage mode was eventually gonna run out anyway so why no point in keeping it up when you can't even fight anymore.

Tell me exactly what you think sensing is supposed to help minato do against a Madara who is fighting 8 gates guy? I just told you that he was currently in sensor mode, so why would he need sage mode when he can still sense. And both Kurama and minato were distracted before which is why they couldn't sense.

As are you, your the only that's tried to argue that your character is an idiot.

The fact that Minato wasn't able to do anything significant to Madara is obvious, such was apparent when Madara parried him with such speed that he couldn't even react with Hiriashin. This does not back up the Ludacris argument of him releasing Sennin Mode of his own will in any way though.

Keeping Sennin Mode on had no detractors, not one. Making himself weaker is makes no sense, and you know that.​

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[Bogard]

As are you, your the only that's tried to argue that your character is an idiot.

The fact that Minato wasn't able to do anything significant to Madara is obvious, such was apparent when Madara parried him with such speed that he couldn't even react with Hiriashin. This does not back up the Ludacris argument of him releasing Sennin Mode of his own will in any way though.

Keeping Sennin Mode on had no detractors, not one. Making himself weaker is makes no sense, and you know that.​

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The amount of time you can maintain Sage Mode depends on the amount of natural energy you collect in the body while mixing it with your physical and spiritual energy. Minato entered Sage Mode instantly against Madara, so it's likely he didn't even get the time to collect as much natural energy as he could if he weren't in the Madara trying to steal back his rinnengan and Kyubi at any time situation.

It's for that reason the FTG-Rasengan attack took the little natural energy he could collect enough for him to get back to normal mode. It's the real explanation about what happened imo

 

[Gold Lightning]

As are you, your the only that's tried to argue that your character is an idiot.

The fact that Minato wasn't able to do anything significant to Madara is obvious, such was apparent when Madara parried him with such speed that he couldn't even react with Hiriashin. This does not back up the Ludacris argument of him releasing Sennin Mode of his own will in any way though.

Keeping Sennin Mode on had no detractors, not one. Making himself weaker is makes no sense, and you know that.​

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Minato was made weaker once he lost both his arms. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sage mode was not helping him in any way. You claimed that minato ran out with no proof whatsoever yet you ask those who argue against you for proof. So when you get proof of minato running out of sage mode, or if you can show me exactly how long it was before minato ran out of sage mode then I suggest you stfu.

I don't even know why this is important or why I'm arguing this with you. The thread is about minato vs Kisame; Fukasaku and Shima remove all disadvantages of his sage mode so there you go. Don't like it, then tough.

 

[Tenasa Uchiha]

The yellow flash murks

 

[LuckyMan]

Okay I'm back, but Gold is already holding his own, he doesn't need my help U_U

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Minato takes this tbh. Once Kisame is tagged, that's it. People are saying he could react but how? Minato can choose to teleport to any side of your body, in any way he wants.

@The Kisame absorbs Rasengan with his skin argument; that's so retarded it's not worth a proper counter.

The only way Kisame wins is water dome, but this match is over way before it gets to that.

Minato Med-high difficulty.

Kisame literally dried Aoba to the extent where he couldn't stand in a panel. Yet a rasengan will cause issues, right.

 

[Beans2]

Gold Lightning and InvisibleMan are both stating that Jiraiya needs Ma and Pa to enter Sage Mode? I know this is completely off-topic, but Jiraiya most definitely can enter sage mode on his own, without Fukusaku or Shima.

 

[Gold Lightning]

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Gold Lightning and InvisibleMan are both stating that Jiraiya needs Ma and Pa to enter Sage Mode? I know this is completely off-topic, but Jiraiya most definitely can enter sage mode on his own, without Fukusaku or Shima.

Shima says he needs to learn to do it on his own

 

[LuckyMan]

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Shima says he needs to learn to do it on his own

SEE He holds his own!!! I want to help him but it would just be overkill!!!!!!!!

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Shima says he needs to learn to do it on his own

Stop beasting n¡gga!

 

[Akasuna]

SEE He holds his own!!! I want to help him but it would just be overkill!!!!!!!!

It really wouldn't make a difference, seeing as quite frankly your debating skills aren't much worth noting.

 

[LuckyMan]

It really wouldn't make a difference, seeing as quite frankly your debating skills aren't much worth noting.

Jimmies have been rustled. Here it comes.

 

[Touken]

Water Dome ends Minato, or any other of his large scale Suiton that can change entire terrains.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Kisame is crushed. Alive or Not.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Water Dome ends Minato, or any other of his large scale Suiton that can change entire terrains.

That argument has been crapped on 7 pages over.

 

[Touken]

That argument has been crapped on 7 pages over.

Pretty sure they've just been debating on whether Minato can use Sage Mode effectively or not.