Itachi vs Jiraiya?? Jiraiya fans plz answer

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From what kakashi said he could have killed him easily inside tsukiyomi if he had wanted to, remember he was still under the guise of pure evil clan killing just to test his strenght evil itachi not the self-sacrificing loving older bro we find out about later. so why would he kill kakashi, or jiraya or anyone in the leaf?

With kisame having been the only one to kill a F-lord as far as i know, and samehada to absorb ninjutsu and itachi having his MS but jiraya didn't have any sage energy or frogs summoned when they were face to face the only reason to run when they did was to avoid having to fight not because they really would have been killed
 

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jiraiya wins, itachi said so
 

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From what kakashi said he could have killed him easily inside tsukiyomi if he had wanted to, remember he was still under the guise of pure evil clan killing just to test his strenght evil itachi not the self-sacrificing loving older bro we find out about later. so why would he kill kakashi, or jiraya or anyone in the leaf?

With kisame having been the only one to kill a F-lord as far as i know, and samehada to absorb ninjutsu and itachi having his MS but jiraya didn't have any sage energy or frogs summoned when they were face to face the only reason to run when they did was to avoid having to fight not because they really would have been killed

Umm its a one on one stimulated battle :rolleyes:
 

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Tsukiyomi is no problem Ma and Pa forg will disterb his chakra plus if it didn't kill kakashi what makes you think Jariya would fall to that.

Susano ha Danzou already blew susano open like a naked flame

Itachi's Susano'o> Sasuke's version. Sasuke only had the complete version when he was about to kill Kakashi.

But about ma and pa frog its still almost impossible to break out a MS genjutsu, sasuke only did it because he has the same eyes (family) as Itachi. and Plus when Itachi put Kakshi in the genjutsu it was a mere second in real time so how will Ma and Pa know to disturb the chakra flow to try and break it?
 

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hey agent i had fun playing u uns 2 i suck with the paper girl but with the rest i kicked ur ass big time lol
 

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I don't see many shinobi capable of beating Itachi when he is fully healthy...that includes Jiraiya. Remember Jiraiya almost had Itachi once, but Itachi used Amaterasu to burn out of the fire toads throat. If Itachi fought the way he did against Sasuke, I doubt Jiraiya could win.

The toad genjutsu being used against Itachi would be the only way I'd see Jiraiya overcoming Itachi. Since Itachi doesn't have 6 paths like Nagato, that would be the end of him.
 

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pervy was a sannin itachi was not heck he is not even legend so im sure he would win pervy of course
 

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yeah i was talking about the whole itachi ran away from jiraya in konoha so he'd obviouly lose argument people keep using.
 

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Jiraiya could win by dragging the fight out, he obviously has much more stamina/chakra.
Especially if Itachi used Susano, because i dont see him using it for too long.
I dont think he would have much trouble with Amaterasu either, maybe using the tech he uses with his hair to shield his body
BUT I dont see how he could break tsukynomi.

As much as it hurts me to say it, Itachi wins
 

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Tsukiyomi is no problem Ma and Pa forg will disterb his chakra plus if it didn't kill kakashi what makes you think Jariya would fall to that.

Susano ha Danzou already blew susano open like a naked flame

Hahaha nice fail. He didn't want to kill Kakashi! Could have easily.
 

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pervy is very smart in battle plus pervy already knows about the black flames i am sure he will either avoide them or block it itachi will not win against pervy even with susano
 

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Ok first off i just want to say i beleive Itachi wins this

I want someone who thinks Jiraiya would win to answer this.

Most people say Jiraiya is to smart to be hit with Tsukuyomi but if he doesnt look at itachi in the face how is he going to fight him? Only someone like Mite Guy can predict movements just by looking at thier feet, and you cannot assume Jiraiya can do that. Not because he cant because its not in the manga (you cannot use an argument that isnt factualy based in the manga.)

And everyone says that the natural energy will save Jiraiya or Ma and Pa could put their chakra in him but what happens when Itachi puts all three under Tsukuyomi? Than they are all screwed.

Amaterasu is not something that anyone can just dodge, Sasuke dodged it because he used Orochimarus white snake ability and Itachi wasnt aiming for him completly or that would have defeted the purpose of keeping sasuke alive. Madara just had the fire phase right through him. And When did Jiraiya show any teqnique that shows he can get away from amaterasu?(which is considered almost unavoidable)

And Sussano, Please someone give me a legitament argument on how Jiraiya can beat this. running away counts as a loss so what does he do? He cant hit Itachi because of yatas mirror no jutsu that Jiraiya has will help. If he uses swamp of the underworld Itachi could use those seconds to hit him with the sword of tskota.

I'm a Jiraiya fan and ill try to be concise as much as I can.

1) Genjutsu, people are always looking at only some way to break genjutsu and NOT ALL of them. Not looking at a sharingan is not a way to break genjustu but it's a way to avoid being caught in genjutsu also itachi can cast weaker genjutsu with his finger, but this isn't Tsukuyomi. Anyway lets get started;

  • Disrupt your chakra flow within your body, you know the same stuff Jiraiya was trying to teach Naruto during the time skip for any encounters with genjutsu users. So can jiraiya do this? I think he can and if can't and could try to gather some natural energy to disrupt his chakra flow.

  • Cause pain within your body to come back to your senses. For example shikamaru broke his finger against the sound genjutsu girl with the flute in part 1. So could jiraiya inflect damage to himself? to break out of the genjutsu off-course he could but at what cost. A simple stab into in his body will break him out of it, Naruto in sage mode stabbed in himself twice and was able to fight in full flight.

  • Using shadow clones makes genjutsu useless if itachi gets impatietnt and cast Tsukuyomi on clone the chakra loss would hurt him alot. Jiraiya's use of shadow clones is fantastic look how he stalled nagato before he entered sgae mode. Jiraiya isn't going to sit around waiting for itact to cast away and Itachi knows that which why he respects his stature as a shinobi.


Amaterasu obviously is not something you can negate or can you? Funny enough JIRAIYA is the only person who isn't an uchia that was able to the flames out. Jiraiya sealed them. But obviously this isn't practical in battle, so what can jiraiya do?

  • Well speed is the key here like all the other characters that do deal with the black flames. Question is do you think jiraiya is fast enough? I think yes, sage mode has a lot of raw speed.

  • Jiraiya is also an earth element user and that so far has shown the best defense against the black flames as the black flames have never burned right through earth due to the slow burning nature of the flame. So jiraiya can give himself time to escape an area scorched with black flames.

Sussano is not invincible, and most people don't understand how dangerous it is to the user aside from the person going against it. Sassano after certain amounts of damage can be visually damaged. And for the user to repair the damage he users his own chakra and physical energy to repair sassano. This was noticeable by sasuke during the kage summit and once again during the fight with danzo. This is how sassano works. Itachi has found a way around this by finding the legendary weapons the haxxed shield and haxxed genjutsu sword. So this obviously a question who last the longest and this where the fight will be won or lost. And it can either way, either itachi will lose all his chakra or jiraiya would get caught with the genjutsu sword.

Even itachi's illness we saw during the sasuke fight I don't believe he would have enough gas to maintain a high level fight jiraya who more less doesn't have to worry about his chakra reserves.

Make your decisions people but the facts as they stand are itachi falls short, also itachi needs the legendary items to compete in the latter stages of this fight, take them out the picture and I'm sorry to say itachi has no chance without them.
 

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Wow people are severely underestimating Itachi's Tsukuyomi
 

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IF YA WATCH THE EPISODES OF NARUTO'S JOURNEY WITH JIRAIYA....YA CAN SEE THAT ITACHI HIMSELF SAID HE CANT BEAT JIRAIYA AND ALSO TEAMING WITH KISAME ITS ONLY 50/50% CHANCE....SO IT MEANS JIRAIYA WAS REALLY THAT STRONG THAT ITACHI WAS AFRAID TO FIGHT WITH HIM EVEN ITS TWO ON ONE.!! :rolleyes:
 

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tsukyomi is genjutsu, it has already been stated how this will be broken and if anything is being underestimated, its jiraiya's knowledge as a shinobi.....for all itachi fans: itachi himself did not underestimate jiraiya even though you people have. If their escape was all a fake, then i wonder why itachi did'nt run against asuma and kurenai....
 

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IF YA WATCH THE EPISODES OF NARUTO'S JOURNEY WITH JIRAIYA....YA CAN SEE THAT ITACHI HIMSELF SAID HE CANT BEAT JIRAIYA AND ALSO TEAMING WITH KISAME ITS ONLY 50/50% CHANCE....SO IT MEANS JIRAIYA WAS REALLY THAT STRONG THAT ITACHI WAS AFRAID TO FIGHT WITH HIM EVEN ITS TWO ON ONE.!! :rolleyes:

Lol thats because Itachi did not like unecessary violence, so its not that he was "Afraid" just he didn't want to fight Jiraiya unecessarily.
 
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Jiraiya will win for sure, this show is about this lousy rasengan attack and how powerful it is, despite it's really easy to dodge, but enemies just seems to stand there and let them hit.
 

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Jiraiya will win for sure, this show is about this lousy rasengan attack and how powerful it is, despite it's really easy to dodge, but enemies just seems to stand there and let them hit.

did you see the 4th hokage's fight with madara?trust me, madara didnt let ANYTHING just hit him.....
 
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did you see the 4th hokage's fight with madara?trust me, madara didnt let ANYTHING just hit him.....

'yawn', maybe because 4th hokage isn't the main character and that they just wanted to psyche the readers up on how powerful Madara is
 
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