Itachi vs Jiraiya?? Jiraiya fans plz answer

[sasori420]

Ok first off i just want to say i beleive Itachi wins this

I want someone who thinks Jiraiya would win to answer this.

Most people say Jiraiya is to smart to be hit with Tsukuyomi but if he doesnt look at itachi in the face how is he going to fight him? Only someone like Mite Guy can predict movements just by looking at thier feet, and you cannot assume Jiraiya can do that. Not because he cant because its not in the manga (you cannot use an argument that isnt factualy based in the manga.)

And everyone says that the natural energy will save Jiraiya or Ma and Pa could put their chakra in him but what happens when Itachi puts all three under Tsukuyomi? Than they are all screwed.

Amaterasu is not something that anyone can just dodge, Sasuke dodged it because he used Orochimarus white snake ability and Itachi wasnt aiming for him completly or that would have defeted the purpose of keeping sasuke alive. Madara just had the fire phase right through him. And When did Jiraiya show any teqnique that shows he can get away from amaterasu?(which is considered almost unavoidable)

And Sussano, Please someone give me a legitament argument on how Jiraiya can beat this. running away counts as a loss so what does he do? He cant hit Itachi because of yatas mirror no jutsu that Jiraiya has will help. If he uses swamp of the underworld Itachi could use those seconds to hit him with the sword of tskota.

 

[peaceful]

Jiraya rapes...

 

[sasori420]

Jiraya rapes...

hahaha thats the answer im expecting from people
i realy want to see though who can give a legitament answer

 

[platinum69]

Jiraya rapes...

J-man would own Itachi...

 

[Deidara...]

Ok first off i just want to say i beleive Itachi wins this

I want someone who thinks Jiraiya would win to answer this.

Most people say Jiraiya is to smart to be hit with Tsukuyomi but if he doesnt look at itachi in the face how is he going to fight him? Only someone like Mite Guy can predict movements just by looking at thier feet, and you cannot assume Jiraiya can do that. Not because he cant because its not in the manga (you cannot use an argument that isnt factualy based in the manga.)

And everyone says that the natural energy will save Jiraiya or Ma and Pa could put their chakra in him but what happens when Itachi puts all three under Tsukuyomi? Than they are all screwed.

Amaterasu is not something that anyone can just dodge, Sasuke dodged it because he used Orochimarus white snake ability and Itachi wasnt aiming for him completly or that would have defeted the purpose of keeping sasuke alive. Madara just had the fire phase right through him. And When did Jiraiya show any teqnique that shows he can get away from amaterasu?(which is considered almost unavoidable)

And Sussano, Please someone give me a legitament argument on how Jiraiya can beat this. running away counts as a loss so what does he do? He cant hit Itachi because of yatas mirror no jutsu that Jiraiya has will help. If he uses swamp of the underworld Itachi could use those seconds to hit him with the sword of tskota.

there will be no legitimate answer because jiraiyah fans (like myself) who are inteligent know that he would lose just because a character is ur fave does not mean they are the strongest

 

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

itachi would beat jiraiya easily ;/

 

[Koo]

J-man in sage mode would win. between sage chakra and the 2 frogs on his shoulders. itachi's genjutsu would be rendered useless. as far as amatarasu. since he saw it once and what its capable of. i think he would be cautious and be able to fight back against it (sas-gay can do that i think j-man can) j-man is a resilient guy and sage mode mades him recover much quicker. i think he would fair well against itachi in ninjutsu. his taijutsu i cant say much for but i can say his STREANGTH is INSANE he kicked that one peins eyes off ROFL. i think if they fought for reals it would just be a battle of wits. susano would be retarded but susano has some MAJOR drawbacks and i highly doubt itachi would use it if he wasnt in a Last Ditch Effort situation where hes probly going to lose anyway. (that last part is pure speculation). anyways all in all with a bit of speculation and love for J-man. a mach match in my head comes out with itachi dead and j-man in critical condition

 

[TheRealSasukeUchiha]

J-man in sage mode would win. between sage chakra and the 2 frogs on his shoulders. itachi's genjutsu would be rendered useless. as far as amatarasu. since he saw it once and what its capable of. i think he would be cautious and be able to fight back against it (sas-gay can do that i think j-man can) j-man is a resilient guy and sage mode mades him recover much quicker. i think he would fair well against itachi in ninjutsu. his taijutsu i cant say much for but i can say his STREANGTH is INSANE he kicked that one peins eyes off ROFL. i think if they fought for reals it would just be a battle of wits. susano would be retarded but susano has some MAJOR drawbacks and i highly doubt itachi would use it if he wasnt in a Last Ditch Effort situation where hes probly going to lose anyway. (that last part is pure speculation). anyways all in all with a bit of speculation and love for J-man. a mach match in my head comes out with itachi dead and j-man in critical condition

you can not combat amaterasu.

 

[Shodaime]

IM PRETTY SURE NARUTO WILL. BETWEEN HIM AND SAUSKE. AGAIN jMAN OWN.

 

[Orion]

Wow!!!!!!!!Yet another thread..........
Well I dont want to comment on who wins....I think both are equal.....
Mr.sasori420 you said use manga as base, then where in manga it is said Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya, manga states otherwise.....But forget that...Manga states Amaterasu can be avoided, Oro avoided that, Sasuke and Madara and even Kakashi can avoid that, Kamui can do that...So dont say Amaterasu can not be avoided. Till date no one has escape from Tsukuyomi and sunanoo so you can not assume that they can not be avoided....When you say give answers baesd on manga, you youself is assuming in contradiction to manga....

 

[peaceful]

Wow!!!!!!!!Yet another thread..........
Well I dont want to comment on who wins....I think both are equal.....
Mr.sasori420 you said use manga as base, then where in manga it is said Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya, manga states otherwise.....But forget that...Manga states Amaterasu can be avoided, Oro avoided that, Sasuke and Madara and even Kakashi can avoid that, Kamui can do that...So dont say Amaterasu can not be avoided. Till date no one has escape from Tsukuyomi and sunanoo so you can not assume that they can not be avoided....When you say give answers baesd on manga, you youself is assuming in contradiction to manga....

Manga states that Itachi>orochimaru>jiraya

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Man I Like Love Jiariya More Then Itachi But Man Itachi Would Win

 

[Deidara...]

Manga states that Itachi>orochimaru>jiraya

there's no arguing against that

Man I Like Love Jiariya More Then Itachi But Man Itachi Would Win

finally another jiraiyah fan who is not clouded by the fave character cloud

Wow!!!!!!!!Yet another thread..........
Well I dont want to comment on who wins....I think both are equal.....
Mr.sasori420 you said use manga as base, then where in manga it is said Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya, manga states otherwise.....But forget that...Manga states Amaterasu can be avoided, Oro avoided that, Sasuke and Madara and even Kakashi can avoid that, Kamui can do that...So dont say Amaterasu can not be avoided. Till date no one has escape from Tsukuyomi and sunanoo so you can not assume that they can not be avoided....When you say give answers baesd on manga, you youself is assuming in contradiction to manga....

refer to post 11

IM PRETTY SURE NARUTO WILL. BETWEEN HIM AND SAUSKE. AGAIN jMAN OWN.

refer to post 11

 

[Steinbiz]

Manga states that Itachi>orochimaru>jiraya

orochimaru is not stronger than jiraiya. this has been proven in so many different ways. i think jiraiya could beat orochimaru WITHOUT hermit mode. and with hermit mode he becomes a whole new level of ninja, beyong that of kage.

 

[Steinbiz]

i was also just thinking about how kakashi, even at his age, knew about how strong itachi was. he told asuma and kurenai that itachi is not to be taken lightly. kakashi then started stating facts about how impressive itachi's achievements were.

now this brings me to the point with jiraiya, itachi, and kisame in the hallway. if kakashi knew the full extent of itachi's power, then don't you think jiraiya, being a legendary sannin, would have also known the full extent of itachi's power?

this brings me to the final point. jiraiya arrived saving naruto from kisame, then he said "actually, this is all very convenient. I can eliminate you both right here at the same time". knowing the power of itachi while saying it.

 

[twistedlink]

i was also just thinking about how kakashi, even at his age, knew about how strong itachi was. he told asuma and kurenai that itachi is not to be taken lightly. kakashi then started stating facts about how impressive itachi's achievements were.

now this brings me to the point with jiraiya, itachi, and kisame in the hallway. if kakashi knew the full extent of itachi's power, then don't you think jiraiya, being a legendary sannin, would have also known the full extent of itachi's power?

this brings me to the final point. jiraiya arrived saving naruto from kisame, then he said "actually, this is all very convenient. I can eliminate you both right here at the same time". knowing the power of itachi while saying it.

Apart from the fact that he didnt eliminate them both...

Also if he knew itachis full power, how come he thought belly of the toad couldnt be opened and itachi did with amaterasu?

Also while not proven yet, most people agree as itachi was an akatsuki spy, he was the one leading information to Jiraiya.


Tsukyomi-
Mostly unavoidable
Jman fans say sage mode makes him immune because of natural energy

Confirmation-No, this has never been stated ever in the manga, or even hinted at, nowhere is sage mode even mentioned in defensive capability against genjutsu.


Amaterasu-
Mostly unavoidable

Jman fans say he can seal the fire. We all saw how quickly it spread on tobi (from shoulder to 3/4 of his body within the next panel, and i assume when youre on fire you dont wait for it to spread, so were talking a second here)

J man needs to get a scroll, open it up, get out a pen, write some shizz down, seal it, and all the while itachi is gonna stay still??

And Jman wont have been burnt to cinders by then?

...Please, grossly favourtism, itachi wins hands down on amaterasu.

The only person ever to avoid it is sasuke, and itachi didnt want it to get him anyway LOL.

Susanou-
Totally Unavoidable (until further proof arises)
Sword of totsuka (Extremely fast and effective, even orochimaru who fights jiraiya EQUALLY was owned by this technique)
Yatas mirror-makes itachi completely invincible.


This is where it simply gets hilarious.

Jamn is supposed to be able to fight itachi while never looking into his eyes (and itachi can cast very powerful genjutsu with fingers and limbs too anyway)
Avoid and seal blasts from amaterasu
Deal with itachis speed, which is definitely on par with jiraiyas

AND avoid totsuka sword with its few hundred foot reach, and have to somehow find a way to de-activate or get through a legendary item that deflects all attacks.


And apparently all this can be done with "sage mode" haha

even more hilarious is jiraiya hasnt even completed sage mode, unlike naruto.

And like ive said before

Jiraiya got owned by 4tailed jinchuriki
Itachi was sent to capture 9tails naruto


why do you all thik that is??

Jiraiya got owned by pain, i mean OWNED, and lets face it

Naruto has a better sage mode
He's got more chakra
He's got fuuton rasenshuriken, a long range jutsu, and more powerful than anything jiraiya has/had
pain was weakened, bleeding, and couldnt use god realm, naruto had 6 frogs helping him.
Naruto knew everything about pain from slugs, and even released 8/9 tails, AND STILL, nagato lived, and could have got away.

And apparently itachi cant beat jiraiya??

Pfft.

I dont care for databook, figures alone doesnt mean shit.

Jiraiya and itachi are of the same level in terms of jutsu skill and power, il agree, but itachi is far more of a super genius, plus his jutsus are all mostly unavoidable and are extremely effective.

Itachis tsukyomi was owning very skilled ninjas even of akatsuki level within seconds.


Itachi beats Jiraiya, theres no question.

Im not even an itachi fan, but its so blatantly obvious.

Personally Jman really isnt that great, hes on par with orochimaru, maybe even weaker than him (Jman nearly died against 4tail naruto, orochimaru lost an arm and then pissed off, technically orochimaru got away with less "damage)

And itachi owned oro..twice

 

[Steinbiz]

Apart from the fact that he didnt eliminate them both...

Also if he knew itachis full power, how come he thought belly of the toad couldnt be opened and itachi did with amaterasu?

Also while not proven yet, most people agree as itachi was an akatsuki spy, he was the one leading information to Jiraiya.


Tsukyomi-
Mostly unavoidable
Jman fans say sage mode makes him immune because of natural energy

Confirmation-No, this has never been stated ever in the manga, or even hinted at, nowhere is sage mode even mentioned in defensive capability against genjutsu.


Amaterasu-
Mostly unavoidable

Jman fans say he can seal the fire. We all saw how quickly it spread on tobi (from shoulder to 3/4 of his body within the next panel, and i assume when youre on fire you dont wait for it to spread, so were talking a second here)

J man needs to get a scroll, open it up, get out a pen, write some shizz down, seal it, and all the while itachi is gonna stay still??

And Jman wont have been burnt to cinders by then?

...Please, grossly favourtism, itachi wins hands down on amaterasu.

The only person ever to avoid it is sasuke, and itachi didnt want it to get him anyway LOL.

Susanou-
Totally Unavoidable (until further proof arises)
Sword of totsuka (Extremely fast and effective, even orochimaru who fights jiraiya EQUALLY was owned by this technique)
Yatas mirror-makes itachi completely invincible.


This is where it simply gets hilarious.

Jamn is supposed to be able to fight itachi while never looking into his eyes (and itachi can cast very powerful genjutsu with fingers and limbs too anyway)
Avoid and seal blasts from amaterasu
Deal with itachis speed, which is definitely on par with jiraiyas

AND avoid totsuka sword with its few hundred foot reach, and have to somehow find a way to de-activate or get through a legendary item that deflects all attacks.


And apparently all this can be done with "sage mode" haha

even more hilarious is jiraiya hasnt even completed sage mode, unlike naruto.

And like ive said before

Jiraiya got owned by 4tailed jinchuriki
Itachi was sent to capture 9tails naruto


why do you all thik that is??

Jiraiya got owned by pain, i mean OWNED, and lets face it

Naruto has a better sage mode
He's got more chakra
He's got fuuton rasenshuriken, a long range jutsu, and more powerful than anything jiraiya has/had
pain was weakened, bleeding, and couldnt use god realm, naruto had 6 frogs helping him.
Naruto knew everything about pain from slugs, and even released 8/9 tails, AND STILL, nagato lived, and could have got away.

And apparently itachi cant beat jiraiya??

Pfft.

I dont care for databook, figures alone doesnt mean shit.

Jiraiya and itachi are of the same level in terms of jutsu skill and power, il agree, but itachi is far more of a super genius, plus his jutsus are all mostly unavoidable and are extremely effective.

Itachis tsukyomi was owning very skilled ninjas even of akatsuki level within seconds.


Itachi beats Jiraiya, theres no question.

Im not even an itachi fan, but its so blatantly obvious.

Personally Jman really isnt that great, hes on par with orochimaru, maybe even weaker than him (Jman nearly died against 4tail naruto, orochimaru lost an arm and then pissed off, technically orochimaru got away with less "damage)

And itachi owned oro..twice

well twisted, theres no point in responding to your statements because both of us are OBVIOUSLY never going to change our minds on this topic. so whatever. jiraiya wins in MY opinion.

in other words, your not worth 10 minutes of my time typing information how jiraiya could beat itachi when you're just going to tell me i'm wrong.

 

[sasori420]

Wow!!!!!!!!Yet another thread..........
Well I dont want to comment on who wins....I think both are equal.....
Mr.sasori420 you said use manga as base, then where in manga it is said Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya, manga states otherwise.....But forget that...Manga states Amaterasu can be avoided, Oro avoided that, Sasuke and Madara and even Kakashi can avoid that, Kamui can do that...So dont say Amaterasu can not be avoided. Till date no one has escape from Tsukuyomi and sunanoo so you can not assume that they can not be avoided....When you say give answers baesd on manga, you youself is assuming in contradiction to manga....

What did i say that wasnt based on the manga? And when did Orochimaru avoid Amaterasu, and sasuke avoided it for 1 simple reason, itachi didnt want to hit him, why would Itachi burn to death the little brother that hes trying to lose agaisnt? And Sasuke Stated that Amaterasu is unavoidable except for taht one occasion.
In what way did i contradict the manga? Till date no one has Escaped from Tsukuyomi except sasuke, Now can Jiraiya do that? No he cant he has no sharingan
And Susanno dont make me laugh no one can beat that, except madara

 

[sasori420]

i was also just thinking about how kakashi, even at his age, knew about how strong itachi was. he told asuma and kurenai that itachi is not to be taken lightly. kakashi then started stating facts about how impressive itachi's achievements were.

now this brings me to the point with jiraiya, itachi, and kisame in the hallway. if kakashi knew the full extent of itachi's power, then don't you think jiraiya, being a legendary sannin, would have also known the full extent of itachi's power?

this brings me to the final point. jiraiya arrived saving naruto from kisame, then he said "actually, this is all very convenient. I can eliminate you both right here at the same time". knowing the power of itachi while saying it.

Kakashi didnt know Itachis full power, he knew itachis power when he was an anbu captian. He was made a captain at 13 thats why kakashi said dont take him lightly.
Why in anyway would Jiraiya know anything about Itachis power? This is assuming that i said not to do. The Mangakyou for the most part was kept a secret even to some of the Uchiha clan. unless jiraiya went under the floorboards to the uchiha secret meeting place he wouildnt know anything about it, untill kakashi told him after kakashi got his mangakyou
Just because Jiraiya said that doesnt mean its true...Jiraiya has never faught either Itachi or Kisame he didnt know their powers, he has a bigger rep than those 2 thats why he thought he was more powerful

And Jiraiya cannot beat Orochimaru without Sage Mode, With Sagemode tahts a totally different story but since Orochimaru is almost Immortal Jiraiya has no known jutsu that could beat him

 

[Deidara...]

orochimaru is not stronger than jiraiya. this has been proven in so many different ways. i think jiraiya could beat orochimaru WITHOUT hermit mode. and with hermit mode he becomes a whole new level of ninja, beyong that of kage.

nope oro is stronger during the sannin fight oro ridicules j-man (who i know was poisoned) saying that he even though thay were both crippled he could still stand his ground and he says that he likes naruto because he reminds him of himself (not talented with ninjutu) and these guys are old and theyv been with each other for at least thirty years so they know who is stronger than who

that reminds me shizune is hella garbage naruto was already better than her