Shisui is without a doubt the best Shinobi

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i know what you're saying bro, but that's only if KA is real. dude, you got to snap back to reality, stop smoking.

Smoking would still place me in reality.
What's unreal is KA's awesome ability to PWN every shinobi.
 

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Nobody who is under KA knows he is controlled, but someone who has a dojutsu could see when is something happening like Ao with samurai leader or someone like jink or sakon could despell it like a regular genjutsu, because it doesn't effect both entities at the same time. Sure it is powerful but IMO not unbeatable.
 

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Nobody who is under KA knows he is controlled, but someone who has a dojutsu could see when is something happening like Ao with samurai leader or someone like jink or sakon could despell it like a regular genjutsu, because it doesn't effect both entities at the same time. Sure it is powerful but IMO not unbeatable.

Shisui has 2 eyes. If he goes cross eyed he gets em both!
 

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Smoking would still place me in reality.
What's unreal is KA's awesome ability to PWN every shinobi.

true enough, itachi's crow could also be the strongest living creature. the crow using KA will implant ideas into people thinking that it is god.

dude, wtf am i saying? :sy:
 

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Shisui has 2 eyes. If he goes cross eyed he gets em both!

Right now you're just speculating, what we've seen from manga outside forces don't affect Kurama, also he must be able to enter jink space to genjutsu kurama, and he can't genjutsu naruto and kurama at the same time, if naruto gets genjutsued first kurama will despell him and if kurama gets genjutsued shisui si pretty much dead because he would be standing still while he is in jink space.
 

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You havent done him any justice at all :sy:
Shisui is like a combination of itachi and minato.
His 2 nicknames alone should tell you that he mustve been a formidable opponent. He was hailed as the best genjutsu user of the uchiha. Personally i believe itachi has surpassed him. Secondly many of the extremely fast ninja's user shunshin in base. Examples are minato, itachi, A, sasuke and shisui got a nickname for being the best shunshin user.

2 nicknames which suggests that he mustve been very special and tbh since it was said that he was like an older brother to itachi, it would make sense to say that thats where itachi gained his genjutsu prowess from.

Anyway 2 hyped up nicknames along with 3 ms techniques. One which is so op that not only did kishi put a 10 year ban so to speak on it, he also made sure that danzo didnt have this when he fought sasuke. Funny enough its so op that both eyes were destroyed for precaution. Id like to know more about his other 2 ms techniques, but also why he got his 2 nicknames.

Also danzou didnt take his eyes. From what ive read it would make sense to say he gave danzo one eye, no different to how he gave itachi the other. Shisui i believe was part of anbu and basically believed an d had the same ideology of danzo which is to protect the village from the shadows therefore it makes sense that he would give his superior one eye. Also lets be serious danzo before he gained all those shairgans was nothing special, shisui's hype would wipe the floor with him. Secondly if danzo reall beat him, he would take both eyes, and not just one. Its obvious that he gave one to danzo, the same way he gave the other to itachi. Both in the aim of protecting the village
 
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Right now you're just speculating, what we've seen from manga outside forces don't affect Kurama, also he must be able to enter jink space to genjutsu kurama, and he can't genjutsu naruto and kurama at the same time, if naruto gets genjutsued first kurama will despell him and if kurama gets genjutsued shisui si pretty much dead because he would be standing still while he is in jink space.

I wonder though. If Shisui KA's naruto at the start of the fight, you think Kurama would bother to disturb someone who seems normal?
Naruto with just say, "Meh", and call it a draw.
 

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You havent done him any justice at all :sy:
Shisui is like a combination of itachi and minato.
His 2 nicknames alone should tell you that he mustve been a formidable opponent. He was hailed as the best genjutsu user of the uchiha. Personally i believe itachi has surpassed him. Secondly many of the extremely fast ninja's user shunshin in base. Examples are minato, itachi, A, sasuke and shisui got a nickname for being the best shunshin user.

2 nicknames which suggests that he mustve been very special and tbh since it was said that he was like an older brother to itachi, it would make sense to say that thats where itachi gained his genjutsu prowess from.

Anyway 2 hyped up nicknames alone with 3 ms techniques. One which is so op that not only did kishi put a 10 year ban so to speak on it, he also made sure that danzo didnt have this when he fought sasuke. Funny enough its so op that both eyes were destroyed for precaution. Id like to know more about his other 2 ms techniques, but also why he got his 2 nicknames

I have no need to elaborate on his other abilities. The moment he mastered KA, he might as well have been Steven Hawking.
 

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Wow!! Even greater than Uchiha Madara, Senju Hashirama or perhaps SO6P, all solely because of his genjutsu ability. I'd say that's a major league stretch, so you're assuming these three people I've just mentioned could not contend with his genjutsu. It would be that overwhelming, I have a hard time buying that.:faq:
 

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Wow!! Even greater than Uchiha Madara, Senju Hashirama or perhaps SO6P, all solely because of his genjutsu ability. I'd say that's a major league stretch, so you're assuming these three people I've just mentioned could not contend with his genjutsu. It would be that overwhelming, I have a hard time buying that.:faq:

This man's eyes are more valuable than water in the Narutoverse.
Since KA is a Jedi Mind Trick technique, yes, I can make a stretch.
 

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I wonder though. If Shisui KA's naruto at the start of the fight, you think Kurama would bother to disturb someone who seems normal?
Naruto with just say, "Meh", and call it a draw.

You do not understand that only the person who is under KA is not aware of being controlled, but a good sensor or a second entity within the person could feel the disturbance in the chakra pathway
 

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You do not understand that only the person who is under KA is not aware of being controlled, but a good sensor or a second entity within the person could feel the disturbance in the chakra pathway

Even so, as seen by Bee, a split second is granted to the genjutsu caster.
Mr. Jugular? Say herro to Mr. Kunai.
 
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I wonder though. If Shisui KA's naruto at the start of the fight, you think Kurama would bother to disturb someone who seems normal?
Naruto with just say, "Meh", and call it a draw.

naruto had lived with kyuubi since he's born. Do you think kyuubi won't realise naruto is acting different?
 

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naruto had lived with kyuubi since he's born. Do you think kyuubi won't realise naruto is acting different?

Possibly. It was only recently that the Kyuubi realized Naruto was pure and wanted peace/respected the Bijuu
 

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Even so, as seen by Bee, a split second is granted to the genjutsu caster.
Mr. Jugular? Say herro to Mr. Kunai.

May I add that nobody was dispatched in the manga that way, but I agree, but that is only dependant of circumstances not every time would he be able to close the distance between him and his opponent.
 

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In My personal opinion he's a decent shinobi but not the best though

If Shusui Uchiha is decent than so is Itachi.They were praise alone side each other as the two with the highest mastery of the sharingan and Shisui was a big brother mentor to Itachi.Decent isn't the word you would use to describe someone like Shisui.
 

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yes ka is powerful but he will only have 2 shots then have to wait 10 years so he wouldn't just use them like crazy he will use them when he has no over choice and if he has already used it then he will just have the standard uchiha fire jutsu and his body flicker and if he was the best shinobi then please tell me how danzo was able to get his eye
 

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I'm speculating...really?? Here's your facts:



Look how far Bee is from Sasuke...



Now look where he is....



The exact same instant he's grounded, he's in full attack...care to explain how can he be knocked out of it so quickly because any other shinobi would paralyzed....or dead even....

All that is with Tsuykyomi at best, not KA. You have no proof for KA which is the point I'm trying to say.
 
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