Shisui is without a doubt the best Shinobi

[6PathsofKami]

I guess Only a perfect jinchuriki can break any genjutsu, not every jinchuriki. (As stated and demonstrated by Killer B)

Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki just like killer b.

 

[Owarij]

yes he can defeat just about anyone with ka

theoretically he shouldn't be able to beat the perfect jinchuriki...
but.... tobi was able to genjutsu yagura.... and he doesn't have ka...

 

[lswhyte123]

Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki just like killer b.

No he wasn't...he had control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki. Gaara was in full control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki.

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Danzo says maybe...also it was Madara who managed to control Yagura,we don't know how he managed this.

 

[true enigma]

Id say with ka and his body flicker tech hes deff at a high level but the down time 4 his ka is a huge weakness. i wud say he is just above kakashis level.

 

[Aze]

Shisui was strong yes...now hes dead

 

[Deadai]

:scorps:Kabuto w/o edo tensei could woop Shisui's arsh since he already knows how to deal with Uchiha and there genjutsu he wouldn't be pulled into KA

 

[Toshiro]

Nah many ninja could and would beat Shisui. Just because he has that one Op gen doesn't mean he is the best.

 

[Deadai]

Nah many ninja could and would beat Shisui. Just because he has that one Op gen doesn't mean he is the best.

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[Dzdchaw]

i agree with u man, he is the best

 

[kuramamode]

i think you guys are getting a little ahead of yourself you never even seen this dude pull a punch off you seen him in a manga box for about a minute and then poof back into the vapors he goes and you guys are calling him the best common now the dude is dead for a reason !

 

[jackychan1]

Not only that it KA can only be used every 10 year or something like that

thats only for other people. Shisui can use any number of times altough u think it consumes a lot of chakra

 

[6PathsofKami]

No he wasn't...he had control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki. Gaara was in full control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki.

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Danzo says maybe...also it was Madara who managed to control Yagura,we don't know how he managed this.

Huh when was gaara in control of his bijuu? It was tobi pretending to be madara that was controlling yagura. Kisame was surpised that he was able to control yagura and he also says that hes shocked he could control him because he was a jinchuriki. Now why would kisame mention that if he wasnt a perfect jinchuriki, we all know normal jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu.

 

[Son of God]

yes he can defeat just about anyone with ka

theoretically he shouldn't be able to beat the perfect jinchuriki...
but.... tobi was able to genjutsu yagura.... and he doesn't have ka...

Ah, you see you other fools?
My child of green text has spoken!

 

[Bigfoot34501]

No he wasn't...he had control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki. Gaara was in full control of his Biju but he wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki.

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Danzo says maybe...also it was Madara who managed to control Yagura,we don't know how he managed this.

Killer Bee and Yagura were in that same category of "maybe" according to Danzo. Since Bee and Yagura are in that category, it can be assumed that Yagura was being controlled by something more powerful than Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, since Bee noted that it wouldn't work on him. Something like KA seems like the only logical option

But on top of that, it was noted by Mei that the technique Danzo used and the technique Tobi used were eerily similar

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That then brings up the question, does Tobi in fact have KA?

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

If I told you you were under KA right now, how would you react? Be imaginative.

it doesn't make him best shin obi of the world , sorry.

 

[SashaUchiha]

Shisui is the strongest??? Then why is he dead??? Did he REALLY COMMIT SUICIDE??? Or did he write a suicide note and then die of natural causes (like Itachi did)???


stfu We are talking too much about someone of whom we don't know enough... may be we should revisit this thread once we know as much about Shisui as we do about Hashirama, Hiruzen, Nagato, Madara, Minato, or atleast Itachi.


:itachi: "People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". "

 

[TrollingSage]

Killer Bee and Yagura were in that same category of "maybe" according to Danzo. Since Bee and Yagura are in that category, it can be assumed that Yagura was being controlled by something more powerful than Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, since Bee noted that it wouldn't work on him. Something like KA seems like the only logical option

But on top of that, it was noted by Mei that the technique Danzo used and the technique Tobi used were eerily similar

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That then brings up the question, does Tobi in fact have KA?

Dude dont get it twisted. KA is a genjutsu and like every gen, it can be broken in the right conditions. What make KA OP is the fact that u are unaware but shd u have a sensor who see the KA user's chakra manipulating u, it can surely be dealt with.
KA is not known for it's durabilty but rather its stealthiness.
Factor which makes a KA user prone to defeat is duration and range. Another situation is if the user is fighting multiple targets and some of them posses rinnegan or byukugan. This will nullify the stealthiness but not the effect.
Bottomline, shisui is not the best shinobi as I can think of multiple situations where he lose with KA ready.

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Dude dont get it twisted. KA is a genjutsu and like every gen, it can be broken in the right conditions. What make KA OP is the fact that u are unaware but shd u have a sensor who see the KA user's chakra manipulating u, it can surely be dealt with.
KA is not known for it's durabilty but rather its stealthiness.
Factor which makes a KA user prone to defeat is duration and range. Another situation is if the user is fighting multiple targets and some of them posses rinnegan or byukugan. This will nullify the stealthiness but not the effect.
Bottomline, shisui is not the best shinobi as I can think of multiple situations where he lose with KA ready.

I wasn't contesting the the Shisui is the best shinobi, he clearly isn't

What I'm contesting is people saying genjutsu fails to work on a perfect host. Sasuke's Tsukuyomi failed to work against Bee. With that being said, Danzo put Yagura and Bee in the same category when he said they were "maybe" perfect hosts. With that being said, Tobi, who used a genjustu that strongly resembled KA (according to Mei) was able to control Yagura, who is on par with Bee for his control over his tailed beat

So it would seem that KA would be able to control somewhat perfect hosts, like Yagura. I was only speculating that Tobi could have KA based on what we've seen and from what Mei and Ao said

I just wanted to clear up "KA can't control perfect hosts" not the "Shisui is the best shinobi" statement, I disagree with that

 

[Son of God]

I wasn't contesting the the Shisui is the best shinobi, he clearly isn't

What I'm contesting is people saying genjutsu fails to work on a perfect host. Sasuke's Tsukuyomi failed to work against Bee. With that being said, Danzo put Yagura and Bee in the same category when he said they were "maybe" perfect hosts. With that being said, Tobi, who used a genjustu that strongly resembled KA (according to Mei) was able to control Yagura, who is on par with Bee for his control over his tailed beat

So it would seem that KA would be able to control somewhat perfect hosts, like Yagura. I was only speculating that Tobi could have KA based on what we've seen and from what Mei and Ao said

I just wanted to clear up "KA can't control perfect hosts" not the "Shisui is the best shinobi" statement, I disagree with that

So IF KA may be able to control perfect hosts, who isn't vulnerable to the technique?

 

[Jayaraman MinatoItachi]

stfu
Madara didn't have koto amatsukami. He didn't use it on yagura. May be it's tsukuyomi. also Danzo didn't have KA. He just used shisui's normal genjutsu on mifune. Shisui must be stronger than itachi without ms becoz of hype given for him