ϟ ☱ Akame ga Kill FC ☱ ϟ

[Оdin]

josh came out of the closet the other day

he's in a long distance relationship with versta

Had a feeling Purse-sama would go down that road with him. You could feel their sexual tension in the chat!

 

[Icelerate]

Another thing that I remembered - during that part when Ran and Kurome fight WH and NR arrives, Ran uses his wing to attack and Tatsumi jumps in to shield Akame from it. So I guess Akame was lagging? You know,

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The reason Akame couldn't dodge this was because

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which made it more difficult to react to Ran's attack. Furthermore,

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so it was an unexpected attack. Tatsumi, who didn't rush Kurome unlike Akame, could react just fine and I'm pretty sure Akame's reactions aren't beneath his.

I really dislike how it is hard to figure out the extent of Ran's power since I kind of need that for my fanfic. I mean, we've seen him pierce skulls with feathers, but when he hit Champ, they didn't go deep into his flesh (though that was probably on purpose). Also, we see a glimpse of his hand-to-hand capabilities during Esdeath's small test, but never anything to follow that up, besides the fact that he has kinda fast reflexes.

True, Ran performed better than Wave against Esdeath so he has better reactions than base Wave. Though that was just a training session and we've seen just how good Esdeath is at hand to hand combat and a serious Esdeath could overwhelm him with ease.

Edit three: (okay I swear it is the last one, I keep getting interrupted) I read through Ran's initial attack on Champ and I think we can indeed say that Ran had trouble hitting moving targets (at least those not moving in a straight line) - after all, he had Natala and Doya more or less immobilize/distract Champ before feathering him. After that, however, he hit him from all possible directions (including from behind). I do find it weird - shouldn't he potentially be able to create a "cloud" of feathers surrounding the opponent, making the escape impossible? Just saying.

Well Ran's feathers were so fast that Champ

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to counter it so a distraction was probably unnecessary because he had

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before getting overwhelmed by those same feathers. I agree that Ran can surround his opponents with feathers much like Shino can do with his bugs thereby making escape impossible.

 

[awesomeseimei]

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Wow, you sure Edo-Tensei'd this post.

Anyway, honestly I started to believe that, due to him spouting BS during the fight with Akame ("The feathers are lacking in power because we are too far apart" - excuse me? These things don't lose momentum going through flesh and bone, they wouldn't get slowed down by a few extra feet of air!) I decided to headcanon that Ran just sucked this much at aiming, and perhaps also was nearsighted (we do see him wear glasses in the flashback).

 

[Icelerate]

Wow, you sure Edo-Tensei'd this post.

Anyway, honestly I started to believe that, due to him spouting BS during the fight with Akame ("The feathers are lacking in power because we are too far apart" - excuse me? These things don't lose momentum going through flesh and bone, they wouldn't get slowed down by a few extra feet of air!) I decided to headcanon that Ran just sucked this much at aiming, and perhaps also was nearsighted (we do see him wear glasses in the flashback).

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so he thought that by getting closer, they'll be able to hit her by being just a bit faster. The momentum difference may not be noticeable but if Akame was barely dodging them, that small difference would have made the difference.

It would be an interesting fight to imagine because neither character can hit the other and it would also be a battle of minds because Ran is clearly an intelligent fellow as well.

 

[awesomeseimei]

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so he thought that by getting closer, they'll be able to hit her by being just a bit faster. The momentum difference may not be noticeable but if Akame was barely dodging them, that small difference would have made the difference.

It would be an interesting fight to imagine because neither character can hit the other and it would also be a battle of minds because Ran is clearly an intelligent fellow as well.

I strongly doubt that the difference in momentum can be noticeable at a distance like that. We see those feathers go right through human heads after being fired from an even greater distance, and they don't slow down (in the anime, they hit almost instantaneously too). So for Ran to assume something like that is dumb (and yes, he was wrong about the reason, since it was just Akame luring him in, which makes it even dumber).

Again, if Ran could aim his feathers with absolute precision (if he were a machine or something), he would have been quite OP, considering the capabilities of the feathers (they pierce a lot of things, they are guided and can be fired in a barrage). However, we never get to see his full strength in action. Against Akame he'd obviously be unable to win since she's super fast. And he gave up instead of going all out. Then, while attacking Night Raid, he did manage to hit the poor air manta but then there was Akame, again, and Mine with Pumpkin (the real question is, how did she, a "genius sniper", manage to miss him?), and he again retreated after getting lightly injured. And while attacking Champ, he obviously wasn't going for the kill since he wanted to torture him. And this is the reason I said he was plot restricted in the tier thread.

Oh, and I'm fairly sure that if they kept going, Akame would have killed Ran. She killed Esdeath, after all.

 

[Icelerate]

I strongly doubt that the difference in momentum can be noticeable at a distance like that. We see those feathers go right through human heads after being fired from an even greater distance, and they don't slow down (in the anime, they hit almost instantaneously too). So for Ran to assume something like that is dumb (and yes, he was wrong about the reason, since it was just Akame luring him in, which makes it even dumber).

I guess the author made a judgmental error.

Again, if Ran could aim his feathers with absolute precision (if he were a machine or something), he would have been quite OP, considering the capabilities of the feathers (they pierce a lot of things, they are guided and can be fired in a barrage). However, we never get to see his full strength in action. Against Akame he'd obviously be unable to win since she's super fast. And he gave up instead of going all out. Then, while attacking Night Raid, he did manage to hit the poor air manta but then there was Akame, again, and Mine with Pumpkin (the real question is, how did she, a "genius sniper", manage to miss him?), and he again retreated after getting lightly injured. And while attacking Champ, he obviously wasn't going for the kill since he wanted to torture him. And this is the reason I said he was plot restricted in the tier thread.

Where did you get the idea that he can't aim properly? I don't think better aim would make him much stronger because as you said he can fire guided feathers and multiple of them in case a few miss. I agree, we should have been given a proper 1 VS 1 fight between Ran and someone else because not a single one was given.

Oh, and I'm fairly sure that if they kept going, Akame would have killed Ran. She killed Esdeath, after all.

I was talking about Akame before she gained the trump card and even then Esdeath also fought against the army previously and got caught off guard once Mursame broke as she felt the fight was over. Nevertheless, I agree Akame would win because it was stated

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but Akame can effortlessly dodge his attacks even at point blank range considering she let Ran's attack come very close before dodging. Ran felt his trump card
might allow him to gain the victory but then again he'd have to come close and use his wings to deflect Akame's attack. Akame would likely opt to target someplace other than Ran's wings anyway but it depends on whether Ran's fast enough to read the trajectory of Akame's swing/strike and use his wings to deflect her sword away.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Where did you get the idea that he can't aim properly?

Hm, I guess I didn't word it properly. I meant it if he could hypothetically shoot without missing at all, perfectly calculating the trajectory etc. Which he obviously can't, being human.

And previously I was criticizing Ran's choice of words because it looked to me as if he was trying to justify being unable to hit Akame with some lousy physics instead of admitting that he just can't hit her (here in Russia we have a saying, "a bad dancer always blames his shoes").

whether Ran's fast enough to read the trajectory of Akame's swing/strike and use his wings to deflect her sword away.

Which he is not. Not enough for Akame anyway. Keep in mind that his best feat was throwing himself in front of her (as a zombie but Kurome said he did it on his own). Also, as we saw several times, his back is exposed (he doesn't seem to be able to curl the wings backwards).

 

[Icelerate]

Hm, I guess I didn't word it properly. I meant it if he could hypothetically shoot without missing at all, perfectly calculating the trajectory etc. Which he obviously can't, being human.

Well the speed of Ran's projectiles would remain the same.

And previously I was criticizing Ran's choice of words because it looked to me as if he was trying to justify being unable to hit Akame with some lousy physics instead of admitting that he just can't hit her (here in Russia we have a saying, "a bad dancer always blames his shoes").

Akame did make it look like she was barely dodging which made Ran think that coming closer would do the job. I think instead of saying the speed of his projectiles were slowed down, he should have said that it takes too long for the feathers to reach Akame due to the distance between them.

Which he is not. Not enough for Akame anyway. Keep in mind that his best feat was throwing himself in front of her (as a zombie but Kurome said he did it on his own). Also, as we saw several times, his back is exposed (he doesn't seem to be able to curl the wings backwards).

I think you're correct. Both Enshin and Izou are skilled sword fighters yet they couldn't properly read Akame's swordplay so Ran's done for if he decides to enter CQC to deflect Akame's sword.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Well the speed of Ran's projectiles would remain the same.

But then he could have guided them better, aiming slightly ahead of the target (like you would in a game when you get a slow-firing weapon, except much faster).

Akame did make it look like she was barely dodging which made Ran think that coming closer would do the job.

Yes, and this is why I feel it would make more sense if he blamed being unable to see her properly or follow her movements (less "oh no, my feathers too slow" and more "oh dang, she's too fast for me"). Because his feathers always hit really fast. Again, several feet wouldn't make a difference.

I think you're correct. Both Enshin and Izou are skilled sword fighters yet they couldn't properly read Akame's swordplay so Ran's done for if he decides to enter CQC to deflect Akame's sword.

True. After all, having superhuman speed has always been her thing (at least since the training in Zero). While Ran's speed is I guess slightly above average (for a Teigu user; he is still supersonic and therefore much faster that any real-life human).

 

[Icelerate]

But then he could have guided them better, aiming slightly ahead of the target (like you would in a game when you get a slow-firing weapon, except much faster).

True

Yes, and this is why I feel it would make more sense if he blamed being unable to see her properly or follow her movements. Because his feathers always hit really fast. Again, several feet wouldn't make a difference.

I personally think he could see her movements just fine but her own movements are

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and she's flexible enough to

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in response to Ran changing the direction of his own feathers.

True. After all, having superhuman speed has always been her thing (at least since the training in Zero). While Ran's speed is I guess slightly above average (for a Teigu user; he is still supersonic and therefore much faster that any real-life human).

That's true. But the thing I don't get is how was the Emperor able to follow Tatsumi's movements. A civilian should not be able to visually keep up with a top tier like Tatsumi even inside of a Teigu as their reactions generally won't increase.

Speaking of Teigu users, wasn't it stated that a Teigu user will always beat a non teigu user? That's pretty contradictory considering there are characters like Akame, Kurome and Esdeath who can beat Teigu users without needing anything other than an ordinary blade.

 

[awesomeseimei]

I personally think he could see her movements just fine but her own movements are

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and she's flexible enough to

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in response to Ran changing the direction of his own feathers.

It's just me harping on the semantics, really - specifically the fact that Ran made a very nonsensical first guess on why he couldn't hit her (point being, he should have realized she was too fast for him earlier because him getting closer wouldn't do anything to the feathers' speed). But nevermind that. Have you seen

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page before, by the way? It seems to be missing from several sites.

That's true. But the thing I don't get is how was the Emperor able to follow Tatsumi's movements. A civilian should not be able to visually keep up with a top tier like Tatsumi even inside of a Teigu as their reactions generally won't increase.

Maybe Shikoutazer enhanced his reactions. But I'd say mostly for plot reasons, so that this fight wouldn't end too quickly.

Speaking of Teigu users, wasn't it stated that a Teigu user will always beat a non teigu user? That's pretty contradictory considering there are characters like Akame, Kurome and Esdeath who can beat Teigu users without needing anything other than an ordinary blade.

I think it was just Seryu's "You need a Teigu to fight a Teigu!" to the Rakshasa Demons. I guess it's just generally assumed in their world that a Teigu user is a lot more powerful than a regular person by default.

 

[Icelerate]

It's just me harping on the semantics, really - specifically the fact that Ran made a very nonsensical first guess on why he couldn't hit her (point being, he should have realized she was too fast for him earlier because him getting closer wouldn't do anything to the feathers' speed). But nevermind that. Have you seen

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page before, by the way? It seems to be missing from several sites.

Well in the beginning Ran thought that Akame was getting pressured by the feather and barely dodging so it made sense to him to come closer but then he realized she could time her dodge at a split second and hence it was not a good idea to come closer. I haven't seen that scan before but I found it on this site right after

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Maybe Shikoutazer enhanced his reactions. But I'd say mostly for plot reasons, so that this fight wouldn't end too quickly.

True.

I think it was just Seryu's "You need a Teigu to fight a Teigu!" to the Rakshasa Demons. I guess it's just generally assumed in their world that a Teigu user is a lot more powerful than a regular person by default.

Oh yeah but those four Rakasha demons already proved this assumption wrong.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Well in the beginning Ran thought that Akame was getting pressured by the feather and barely dodging so it made sense to him to come closer but then he realized she could time her dodge at a split second and hence it was not a good idea to come closer.

Okay, let me try to explain myself with another video game analogy:

Imagine you're trying to snipe a very fast enemy that you know would instakill you if you get too close. You seem to almost hit with your first few attacks but can't. Is your train of thought "hm, I should probably get a tiny bit closer so that my bullets can reach them a fraction of second faster"? Most likely no. Instead, you'd try to change your patterns and guide your shots better (especially when your weapon can fire barrages of guided projectiles). If anything, getting further away may be a better idea since you'd be able to get a wider look at the area. Because, unless your bullets are literally too slow, the small changes in distance won't make any discernible difference in how fast they hit.

But even ignoring all that, why couldn't Ran try to hit Akame from behind while she was dodging feathers in front of her? I re-read the whole thing again, he only does 3-4 haphazard "let it hit" attacks and gives up. So much for patience and supposed intelligence.

Oh yeah but those four Rakasha demons already proved this assumption wrong.

Yes, exactly.

 

[Icelerate]

Okay, let me try to explain myself with another video game analogy:

Imagine you're trying to snipe a very fast enemy that you know would instakill you if you get too close. You seem to almost hit with your first few attacks but can't. Is your train of thought "hm, I should probably get a tiny bit closer so that my bullets can reach them a fraction of second faster"? Most likely no. Instead, you'd try to change your patterns and guide your shots better (especially when your weapon can fire barrages of guided projectiles). If anything, getting further away may be a better idea since you'd be able to get a wider look at the area. Because, unless your bullets are literally too slow, the small changes in distance won't make any discernible difference in how fast they hit.

Well since he does have guided attacks, the range shouldn't matter when he can go for near misses and then shift the trajectory right after Akame dodges. So I agree with you there. Going farther might be a problem because he wouldn't be able to see Akame as clearly so aiming with precision would become harder.

But even ignoring all that, why couldn't Ran try to hit Akame from behind while she was dodging feathers in front of her? I re-read the whole thing again, he only does 3-4 haphazard "let it hit" attacks and gives up. So much for patience and supposed intelligence.

Yes, exactly.

Well Ran did try to surround Akame and hit her from

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including her blind spots with six different feathers. Although I guess he is capable of using

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[awesomeseimei]

Going farther might be a problem because he wouldn't be able to see Akame as clearly so aiming with precision would become harder.

It may but I don't mean moving miles away. In fact, guiding projectiles is sometimes easier when you have more distance. It takes less time to adjust your aim as well.

...Though, I may be projecting here since I have poor depth perception and I find it easier to hit distant targets than closer ones

Well Ran did try to surround Akame and hit her from

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including her blind spots with six different feathers. Although I guess he is capable of using

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With Champ I suppose he had more bloodlust. I mean, if he was bloodlusted against Akame he'd probably attack her a lot more relentlessly (not necessarily more effectively though).

And another thing I thought of today: do you think Akame's speed is comparable to Naruto characters' (only the shinobi, of course)? Or would she still be below any of them?

 

[Icelerate]

It may but I don't mean moving miles away. In fact, guiding projectiles is sometimes easier when you have more distance. It takes less time to adjust your aim as well.

...Though, I may be projecting here since I have poor depth perception and I find it easier to hit distant targets than closer ones

Yeah if you're too close it can be hard to aim but the same is true for a distance. When i used to play CoD, with Wii pointer controls, I preferred close to medium range compared to long range and Wii pointer controls are a more realistic testament to aiming compared to mouse/keyboard or traditional analog controls.

I feel Ran was far enough to get a good grasp in aiming or else he would have attempted to move farther away.

With Champ I suppose he had more bloodlust. I mean, if he was bloodlusted against Akame he'd probably attack her a lot more relentlessly (not necessarily more effectively though).

Yeah being blood lusted might actually result in his demise.

And another thing I thought of today: do you think Akame's speed is comparable to Naruto characters' (only the shinobi, of course)? Or would she still be below any of them?

That's a tough question considering it takes quite a lot of thinking to compare characters from the same series let alone different series. Naruto characters have the advantage of using chakra for shunshin and boosting physical strength. Though if Akame was made to be a Naruto character, Kishi would have to make her as fast and reflexive as maybe Mifune or Itachi for her to live up to her hype especially when she's a one trick pony who trains in speed.

Though Akame's flexibility in dodging attacks is better than any Naruto or AgK character from what I've seen.

Still I'd say Akame's ability to evade Budou's lightning attacks were very impressive so her reactions compared to most Naruto characters should be very high nonetheless.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Yeah if you're too close it can be hard to aim but the same is true for a distance. When i used to play CoD, with Wii pointer controls, I preferred close to medium range compared to long range and Wii pointer controls are a more realistic testament to aiming compared to mouse/keyboard or traditional analog controls.

I feel Ran was far enough to get a good grasp in aiming or else he would have attempted to move farther away.

Wii pointer is closer to a realistic gun, but Ran literally has magic projectiles that are dependent on his will. He kind of seems to sometimes direct them with his hands but not always, so I suppose we could say he controls them with his mind. Which, again, should have made him able to shoot them with more precision. Oh well. And while we're at it, I usually prefer long ranged precision weapons in games when I can, and I like to work on my aim. Maybe this is why I'm so worked up about this whole thing.

That's a tough question considering it takes quite a lot of thinking to compare characters from the same series let alone different series. Naruto characters have the advantage of using chakra for shunshin and boosting physical strength. Though if Akame was made to be a Naruto character, Kishi would have to make her as fast and reflexive as maybe Mifune or Itachi for her to live up to her hype especially when she's a one trick pony who trains in speed.

Though Akame's flexibility in dodging attacks is better than any Naruto or AgK character from what I've seen.

Still I'd say Akame's ability to evade Budou's lightning attacks were very impressive so her reactions compared to most Naruto characters should be very high nonetheless.

It's tough because in Naruto, it is accepted that any ninja is really fast, especially if we consider shunshin which is a basic jutsu. While in AgK, a few characters such as Akame and Esdeath were said to be very fast, while the rest are supposed to be average... But seeing how they also have superhuman speed feats (like Ran being supersonic), it's hard to tell what actually their average is.

I was just thinking back on the "your Naruto fave vs your AgK fave" which I've also brought up here in the past. Back then I thought Ran would probably overwhelm Fuu (who is a fodder by Naruto standards) with firepower. Now, however, I think Fuu would be able to beat Ran with just basic ninja skills (shunshin, kawarimi, maybe some kunai, and the ability to jump super high). Also, Fuu may be a fodder but his reflexes seem to be decent and he most likely has more stamina, so he'd probably be able to avoid the feathers for a while before Ran gets tired and has to stop using Mastema.

...Eh, I kind of feel silly actually thinking about it. But then again, if my Naruto fave was any stronger, it wouldn't even be debatable.

Do you think Akame vs Temari is at all debatable? Or is it too unfair to compare them after all?

 

[Icelerate]

Wii pointer is closer to a realistic gun, but Ran literally has magic projectiles that are dependent on his will. He kind of seems to sometimes direct them with his hands but not always, so I suppose we could say he controls them with his mind. Which, again, should have made him able to shoot them with more precision. Oh well. And while we're at it, I usually prefer long ranged precision weapons in games when I can, and I like to work on my aim. Maybe this is why I'm so worked up about this whole thing.

That's true I guess. If Ran had better reactions, he'd be better at guiding his projectiles.

It's tough because in Naruto, it is accepted that any ninja is really fast, especially if we consider shunshin which is a basic jutsu. While in AgK, a few characters such as Akame and Esdeath were said to be very fast, while the rest are supposed to be average... But seeing how they also have superhuman speed feats (like Ran being supersonic), it's hard to tell what actually their average is.

When Budo praised Leon and Akame for dodging his lightning bolts, he claimed they're

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so it implies Night Raid members are faster than the average characters. The Jaegars were created to oppose Night Raid so it stands to reason their average should be around Night Raid's too.

I was just thinking back on the "your Naruto fave vs your AgK fave" which I've also brought up here in the past. Back then I thought Ran would probably overwhelm Fuu (who is a fodder by Naruto standards) with firepower. Now, however, I think Fuu would be able to beat Ran with just basic ninja skills (shunshin, kawarimi, maybe some kunai, and the ability to jump super high). Also, Fuu may be a fodder but his reflexes seem to be decent and he most likely has more stamina, so he'd probably be able to avoid the feathers for a while before Ran gets tired and has to stop using Mastema.

...Eh, I kind of feel silly actually thinking about it. But then again, if my Naruto fave was any stronger, it wouldn't even be debatable.

Well aren't Ran's feathers faster than Konan's paper airplanes based on Ran's projectiles hitting the ground leaving a smoke cloud (

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) unlike in Konan's case? If that's the case, I don't see Fu being able to evade Konan's attacks for very long when

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instead of simply sidestep.

Do you think Akame vs Temari is at all debatable? Or is it too unfair to compare them after all?

Well Akame's consistently shown to be able to dodge her opponent's attacks in most situations. Temari's fuuton is invisible to the naked eye according to the databook but so should Enshin's yet

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despite being

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. This is probably because she has remarkable senses due to her assassin training which makes sense as she's been able to react to attacks coming from her blind spot.

Nevertheless, Temari should be able to keep up with Akame's speed visually when all of Akame's non fodder opponents have kept up with her and also because Temari could visually keep up with the 3rd Raikage non shunshin speed (

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) which I'm pretty sure is above Akame's.

KKM would wreck Akame though due to being on a completely different scale to anything Akame has dodged but it does require her to wipe her own blood on her fan which makes her defenseless during that period in time.

Overall Akame should take her down low-mid difficulty due to her ability to close the distance while evading Temari's long ranged attacks.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Well aren't Ran's feathers faster than Konan's paper airplanes based on Ran's projectiles hitting the ground leaving a smoke cloud (

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) (

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) unlike in Konan's case? If that's the case, I don't see Fu being able to evade Konan's attacks for very long when

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instead of simply sidestep.

Hm, I think it's pretty tough to say which ones are supposed to be faster. But realistically, I believe Konan's paper thingies should be. That dust cloud there looks like a mere visual representation of feathers hitting the ground (which shouldn't even be there since usually they don't stir up any dust, being very thin).

Though regardless, I was mostly thinking of shunshin and kawarimi (which are rarely used in Part II at all, most likely for plot reasons). Also, Jirayia seems to be doing frontflips or rolling, but he doesn't seem to have too much trouble there. I also don't think Ran ever fired that many feathers that close to each other, and Fuu has a sword which he can use to deflect the feathers (he is

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to react with it, and there's no risk of Kamui trolling).

I'm not saying Fuu is faster than Jiraiya or Akame but I believe there can be a window of time for him to evade Ran's attacks. It always looks like Ran takes some time to launch the feathers. Heck, Fuu could probably confuse him with regular clone feints (aka basic academy jutsu), since Ran is a regular person compared to him.

Edit: also, keep in mind that Akame wasn't using her full speed against Ran (as she only pretended to struggle), and she wasn't moving too far away from him because of her plan to lure him closer. Fuu doesn't have to use the same tactic. I think he'd be likely to try to get behind Ran (or hide if applicable) and launch an attack from his blind spot, throw some kunai/shuriken/kama for example, or maybe even Shintenshin. He does try

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on Obito, even if unsuccessfully.

I'm not saying people underrate Fuu, I know he isn't fit for 1v1 and all that. But during the Obito fight, there wasn't much he could to. Not only Obito was leagues above him (and many others in NV, mind you), but he also had a disadvantage of having no intel, not to mention the battlefield was very open. Going just by the hype, he must have been a pretty competent ninja otherwise - he just happened to specialize in making traps (according to the databook) and not combat.

Eh, sorry about ranting so much. Maybe I could make an analysis of Fuu's abilities but it's not like anyone would care.

Well Akame's consistently shown to be able to dodge her opponent's attacks in most situations. Temari's fuuton is invisible to the naked eye according to the databook but so should Enshin's yet

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despite being

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. This is probably because she has remarkable senses due to her assassin training which makes sense as she's been able to react to attacks coming from her blind spot.

Nevertheless, Temari should be able to keep up with Akame's speed visually when all of Akame's non fodder opponents have kept up with her and also because Temari could visually keep up with the 3rd Raikage non shunshin speed (

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) which I'm pretty sure is above Akame's.

KKM would wreck Akame though due to being on a completely different scale to anything Akame has dodged but it does require her to wipe her own blood on her fan which makes her defenseless during that period in time.

Overall Akame should take her down low-mid difficulty due to her ability to close the distance while evading Temari's long ranged attacks.

Well, Temari should be able to block Akame's attacks with her fan if it comes to close range, right? Besides, again, there's always the forgotten (by Kishi) kawarimi. So I don't think it would be all over for Temari even if Akame gets close. And if Temari had intel on Murasame, I would assume she'd take extra care to not let Akame get close. She did notice and evade Shikamaru's shadow coming at her, and it was a shadow, not a person.

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she reacts to a kunai which comes out of a dust cloud (and this is Part I her). And there's also the part where she blocks Lee's kick, which I think I don't need to show you.

 

[Icelerate]

Hm, I think it's pretty tough to say which ones are supposed to be faster. But realistically, I believe Konan's paper thingies should be. That dust cloud there looks like a mere visual representation of feathers hitting the ground (which shouldn't even be there since usually they don't stir up any dust, being very thin).

You're right, it could just be that the art style is different. If Kishi were to have drawn that attack, he'd probably do the same thing with Konan.

Though regardless, I was mostly thinking of shunshin and kawarimi (which are rarely used in Part II at all, most likely for plot reasons). Also, Jirayia seems to be doing frontflips or rolling, but he doesn't seem to have too much trouble there. I also don't think Ran ever fired that many feathers that close to each other, and Fuu has a sword which he can use to deflect the feathers (he is

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to react with it, and there's no risk of Kamui trolling).

Well Jiraiya couldn't cleanly dodge the attack or else he wouldn't have resorted to rolling. If Konan had to opportunity to continue the assault if Jiraiya didn't use the oil, he'd have gotten hit as he can't just roll forever which isn't even a good way to dodge an attack. Not to mention Konan didn't use her guided attacks in that scenario.

I'm not saying Fuu is faster than Jiraiya or Akame but I believe there can be a window of time for him to evade Ran's attacks. It always looks like Ran takes some time to launch the feathers. Heck, Fuu could probably confuse him with regular clone feints (aka basic academy jutsu), since Ran is a regular person compared to him.

He probably can unless he gets cornered from different directions. Clone feints could certainly help prolong the fight.

Edit: also, keep in mind that Akame wasn't using her full speed against Ran (as she only pretended to struggle), and she wasn't moving too far away from him because of her plan to lure him closer. Fuu doesn't have to use the same tactic. I think he'd be likely to try to get behind Ran (or hide if applicable) and launch an attack from his blind spot, throw some kunai/shuriken/kama for example, or maybe even Shintenshin. He does try

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on Obito, even if unsuccessfully.

Surprise kunai/shuriken attacks can be heard of and defended by his wings but Shitenshin from the blind spot could end this.

I'm not saying people underrate Fuu, I know he isn't fit for 1v1 and all that. But during the Obito fight, there wasn't much he could to. Not only Obito was leagues above him (and many others in NV, mind you), but he also had a disadvantage of having no intel, not to mention the battlefield was very open. Going just by the hype, he must have been a pretty competent ninja otherwise - he just happened to specialize in making traps (according to the databook) and not combat.

Of course he was a kage body guard and trusted by Danzo above the other members of Root.

Eh, sorry about ranting so much. Maybe I could make an analysis of Fuu's abilities but it's not like anyone would care.

I made several of those threads and was once thinking about doing one on Ino. You could do one for Fuu if you want as it would be interesting to read.

Well, Temari should be able to block Akame's attacks with her fan if it comes to close range, right? Besides, again, there's always the forgotten (by Kishi) kawarimi. So I don't think it would be all over for Temari even if Akame gets close. And if Temari had intel on Murasame, I would assume she'd take extra care to not let Akame get close. She did notice and evade Shikamaru's shadow coming at her, and it was a shadow, not a person.

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she reacts to a kunai which comes out of a dust cloud (and this is Part I her). And there's also the part where she blocks Lee's kick, which I think I don't need to show you.

I ended up changing my mind. Most of Akame's dodging feats are against narrow attacks with little AoE. I don't think Akame can dodge Temari's attacks from close range as she barely dodged fire from Bols.

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and is faster than anything Akame has successfully dodged. It may have been a collaboration but Temari was the main contributor and WCN has another variant with wider range. Kyuubi chakra obviously made a big difference but the databook entry for WCN as well as the

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demonstrates that the jutsu covered a wider range than usual due to it having the ability to be cast with a wider range.

Spoiler

The Sand shinobi bring up overlapping
gusts of wind, giving birth to a net of air
currents that traps the enemy! When
used against the Ten-Tails, a large net
was cast to capture a wider range.

I don't think Temari can block Akame's swordplay in CQC because Akame's

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is fast enough to slice over a dozen guys in an instant before their body parts get affected by gravity. But then again, Bols managed to block Akame's sword strike.