ϟ ☱ Akame ga Kill FC ☱ ϟ
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He has to go all out first. Same with Esdeath. I think if Akame were to fight Budo and Esdeath were to fight Tatsumi, the generals would win much more easily than the trouble they are having now.
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You know, there's a reason why I hardly ever show up in the Vs section - I'm as clueless when it comes to debates just as I am with RPing.
Besides, that sort of happened in the manga and we know how it went :| And this
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Basically, if the translation is to be believed, he means that, um, Divine Wings could reflect Murasame? Which is very weird considering that we later see what it actually does.
Just think about it, we've seen it turning the wings into a reflective shield of sorts. It sent one of Champ's orbs back at him, presumably at the same speed and trajectory, except backwards. So, DW doesn't absorb the object's kinetic energy, instead reflecting it completely. But what good would it do against a sword swung at it? Make it bounce back and potentially out of Akame's grasp? That's just... not something I can really imagine. Not to mention the anime showed DW doing something completely different - cutting the stone pillar into many pieces - and we'll never know whether it is an actual feature of it or just anime's interpretation of the skill.
So yeah, I have no idea since I have trouble imagining it at all. This is why I don't debate.
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Well Ran's trump card is a lot like Yata Mirror so if Akame attacks the shield directly, her attack will get deflected, possibly right back at her or at another angle. Though you are right, this battle already happened in canon which means Ran loses due to BFR. BTW when you first joined, you used to debate in the VS section IIRC. I did enjoy your posts back in the days.
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I only debated a little bit, I think. But I never participated in "serious" debates.
You know, when thinking about that battle this night I realized that Ran's abilities are actually kind of inconsistent in canon. I can't really post scans due to using slow mobile internet, but his feathers were consistently shown to be really fast and guided. I mean, he's been shown to headshot those bandits from a large distance, and during his "battle" with NR when they flied on that air manta, there was even an instance of his feathers making a sharp turn (at least that's how it looked). When he fired feathers at Champ, they also concentrated on him, even hitting him in the eye. So basically if you consider all that, his feathers should have great speed and accuracy.
However while he was unable to hit Akame, he said something like, "The feathers are lacking power because they are too far apart", which makes no sense. First, what power? He could previously pierce skulls with them, and the distance was roughly the same; so those feathers aren't supposed to lose momentum too quickly, they are pretty aerodynamic. And, what did he mean by "far apart"? He's been shown to be able to concentrate his fire and shoot with precision. Sure, it's plausible that he couldn't hit her because she was dodging/blocking too well, but that explanation makes no sense. It might have been inaccurate translation though.
In fact, the only explanation I can come up with is that Ran has worse aiming skills than I do, because, while I don't play too many video games, I've been able to kill those annoyingly fast enemies that jump all over the place using rifles, and he couldn't do that despite having guided and nearly unlimited projectiles :|
Yes his feathers can make sharp curves. I guess that's another speed feat for Akame. She's too good at dodging attacks. Anyway I felt as if the fight between her and Ran was similar to Sasuke's fight with Deidara. What do you think?
Technically, I've been able to take down bosses that can use instantaneous space time travel whereas Naruto characters have a very hard time doing that.
Anyway I'm going to have to reread Ran's fights in more detail to discuss his abilities any further.
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Well, Akame was said to be very fast after all. And I can't really compare the two fights since one of them was actually long and tactically interesting and the other wasn't even a fight - just some shooting from Ran and dodging from Akame, and then Ran just flies away like whatever.
The videogame part was mostly a joke
I know that manga doesn't work in the same way.Another thing that I remembered - during that part when Ran and Kurome fight WH and NR arrives, Ran uses his wing to attack and Tatsumi jumps in to shield Akame from it. So I guess Akame was lagging? You know,
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.I really dislike how it is hard to figure out the extent of Ran's power since I kind of need that for my fanfic. I mean, we've seen him pierce skulls with feathers, but when he hit Champ, they didn't go deep into his flesh (though that was probably on purpose). Also, we see a glimpse of his hand-to-hand capabilities during Esdeath's small test, but never anything to follow that up, besides the fact that he has kinda fast reflexes.
Edit too: not to mention, I'm more interested in things like how he would behave in one situation or another, his way of thinking, etc. and much less in his actual power. In fact, I prefer characters who aren't too powerful since it's easier to imagine dangerous situations for them without needing to artificially create them to exploit the character's weakness (like it is with, say, Superman).
Stupid tethering :|
Edit three: (okay I swear it is the last one, I keep getting interrupted) I read through Ran's initial attack on Champ and I think we can indeed say that Ran had trouble hitting moving targets (at least those not moving in a straight line) - after all, he had Natala and Doya more or less immobilize/distract Champ before feathering him. After that, however, he hit him from all possible directions (including from behind). I do find it weird - shouldn't he potentially be able to create a "cloud" of feathers surrounding the opponent, making the escape impossible? Just saying.
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lol .Well, Akame was said to be very fast after all. And I can't really compare the two fights since one of them was actually long and tactically interesting and the other wasn't even a fight - just some shooting from Ran and dodging from Akame, and then Ran just flies away like whatever.
The videogame part was mostly a joke
Another thing that I remembered - during that part when Ran and Kurome fight WH and NR arrives, Ran uses his wing to attack and Tatsumi jumps in to shield Akame from it. So I guess Akame was lagging? You know,You must be registered for see links.
I really dislike how it is hard to figure out the extent of Ran's power since I kind of need that for my fanfic. I mean, we've seen him pierce skulls with feathers, but when he hit Champ, they didn't go deep into his flesh (though that was probably on purpose). Also, we see a glimpse of his hand-to-hand capabilities during Esdeath's small test, but never anything to follow that up, besides the fact that he has kinda fast reflexes.
Edit too: not to mention, I'm more interested in things like how he would behave in one situation or another, his way of thinking, etc. and much less in his actual power. In fact, I prefer characters who aren't too powerful since it's easier to imagine dangerous situations for them without needing to artificially create them to exploit the character's weakness (like it is with, say, Superman).
Stupid tethering :|
Edit three: (okay I swear it is the last one, I keep getting interrupted) I read through Ran's initial attack on Champ and I think we can indeed say that Ran had trouble hitting moving targets (at least those not moving in a straight line) - after all, he had Natala and Doya more or less immobilize/distract Champ before feathering him. After that, however, he hit him from all possible directions (including from behind). I do find it weird - shouldn't he potentially be able to create a "cloud" of feathers surrounding the opponent, making the escape impossible? Just saying.
