Rasen Shuriken is not destroying a Susanoo at level V2 and above.
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I didn't change the subject, it is the same thing we were talking about this whole time. Already explained why Wind being stronger than lightning has NO RELEVANCE AT ALL but you are too unintelligent to understand what I type so I'm done wasting my time on you.
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FRS can't destroy a V2 Susanoo yet you think Sakura's punch can? Who is the real fanboy here?
Unless of course you think Sakura's punch>FRS, at that point I'll know to stop taking you seriously.
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Danzou cut open a v2 susanoo at the back with an amplified B-rank tech. FRS is an S-rank cutting technique which employs thousands of tiny blades sharp enough to cut though chakra vessels, and it is large enough to fully envelop susanoo including from the back and the bottom. yata mirror might be able to stand against it if it offers 360 degree protection which is unproven and unlikely, but apart from that frs will destroy susanoo imo
@bold,what i meant is he could have blocked kirin with a weaker version of susanoo.
also do you know what pressure is,it's the force used devided by the space the force exerted on it,the thinner the blade the better it is,same goes for wind blades,they're thin blades of wind that exert a force on a small surface,so precise attacks or cutting attacks has everything do with pressure.(no offence,you should revise your physics lessons)
we've seen danzo's jutsu and it was composed of four joined successive wind blades,and it cut throught susanoo,now lets look at FRS,it's a wind shuriken that spins at high speed,the number of strikes that the blades of FRS does before impact is definetively gonna be more than 4,not to mention at impact the blades expand and continue spinning before exploding into the needle blades.the number of attacks of the wind blade is gonna be collossal.
you seem to underrate FRS's ability to cut a lot,and count only the explosive possibility.yeah we have no proof it can cut susanoo,neither you have proof that it can tank it.all you continue doing is comparing it to kirin,which is a totally different jutsu in concept and way of dealing damage.
also your logic is flawed,here is your assumptions:
Kirin>FRS
V2 blocked Kirin, so it can block the weaker FRS.
V3>V2
V3 was damaged by the Baku and Danzo Fuuton combo.
i add tsunade's punch>V2
i can deduce from your logic that tsunade's punch>V2>kirin.which is ridiculous to even say that and utterly stupid.
A>B>C logic doesn't really apply,these aren't numbers,they're diffent attacks with different properties that you should take into account.
arguing over this matter is useless,with no real proof but baseless assumptions.
*See that Kakuzu's body remained intact after being hit by the Rasenshuriken and thinks why Susanoo should take any damage*
Surely, the Rasenshuriken can deal more physical damage, too, like when it bisected Ningendo (a human body) but this won't do much against Susanoo. The third Raikage was also pretty much unharmed after being hit with the Rasenshuriken and no one can tell me that the strength of his body is superior to Susanoo's.
Itachi's Susanoo even protected him from a mountain busting flash with the only loss of his coat.
Madara's Susaoo, though being bigger than the regular ones protected him from the tailed beast bomv of the Kyuubi, speaking for its defensive abilities.
Surely, the Rasenshuriken can deal more physical damage, too, like when it bisected Ningendo (a human body) but this won't do much against Susanoo. The third Raikage was also pretty much unharmed after being hit with the Rasenshuriken and no one can tell me that the strength of his body is superior to Susanoo's.
Itachi's Susanoo even protected him from a mountain busting flash with the only loss of his coat.
Madara's Susaoo, though being bigger than the regular ones protected him from the tailed beast bomv of the Kyuubi, speaking for its defensive abilities.
I don't know why you think the techniuqe didn't improve after it's first use. Kakuza was left intact, later in the series rasenshuriken disintegrated human path.
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You have to take into consideration that, naruto was in sm this time and that boosts the technique, but also kakuzu's jiongi body also helped him out.
Anyway i do not like it when people say something is not destroying something, when there is no manga scan to prove that, unless it is more or less 100% reasonable to say so and tbh i cannot say.
Personally i believe it will leave a v2 state susanoo on its last leg. You have to remember that kirin got past itachi's v2 susano and not only strip him off his akatsuki clothes, he actually got knocked out and got back up
Destroying it completely i cannot say
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Danzo cut open a V3 Susanoo with a massively amplified Fuuton. Rank doesn't not even matter when it comes to power. Rank simply tells how hard it is to learn the jutsu. Not once has it been said Rank=Power, which doesn't even make sense as all jutsu don't use power in the first place.
You say "Sharp enough to cut chakra vessels" like those things are harder to cut than a Susanoo.
Even if it can envelop Susanoo, it doesn't mean that it can destroy it. Which is unlikely as a V2 blocked Kirin.
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@bold: You do know that only helps my point right?
So your reasoning for FRS being stronger than the Danzo and Baku combo Fuuton is that FRS has more blades? Even though said blades are needle like when it comes to size? Poor comparison. Also you take the 4 blades by themselves even though the overall damage of the attack was buffed by Baku. Again, poor comparison.
You are overrating its ability to cut, especially when its only cut through rocks, Mountains, and Human Bodies.
You keep saying they are different types of jutsu, but it is completely obvious which one is stronger. Bijuu Dama and FRS are different types of jutsu but it is painfully obvious which one of the two is the stronger one.
Except Tsunade's punch can't destroy a V2 Susanoo so your comparison is poor, doesn't even make sense and is utterly stupid.
Tsunade's punch only cracked a V1, its not doing significant damage to a V2 and Kirin obliterated a V2 Susanoo, obvious if you read the thread or the manga.
If you are going to make a comparison...make sure it makes sense first.
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Your whole argument is based on the notion that frs does less damage than kirin. J-mans gallant rasengan can hollow out mountains.
Frs cuts through mountains clean. I don't see why it can't cut through like danzo's wind tech. Unless you're saying danzo's tech can cut through a mountain. Are you saying that?
After all.... It's just chakra. Guy's hirudora which is just air pressure decimated it.
So saying an attack that's the pinnacle of shape transformation and nature transformation can't do it? I don't believe you.
Third raikage used a chakra based defense yet after he got hit by frs all the chakra was gone. Same thing is gonna happen to susanoo.
Oh the building that kirin blasted through must be weaker than a mountain considering that fire tech's punch holes in it.
Frs cuts through mountains clean. I don't see why it can't cut through like danzo's wind tech. Unless you're saying danzo's tech can cut through a mountain. Are you saying that?
After all.... It's just chakra. Guy's hirudora which is just air pressure decimated it.
So saying an attack that's the pinnacle of shape transformation and nature transformation can't do it? I don't believe you.
Third raikage used a chakra based defense yet after he got hit by frs all the chakra was gone. Same thing is gonna happen to susanoo.
Oh the building that kirin blasted through must be weaker than a mountain considering that fire tech's punch holes in it.
A sword that can bisect a humans body would shatter when trying to deal damage on Susanoo. A Kunai of steel just broke apart when it hit the ribcage of Sasuke's Susanoo while it wasn't left a single scratch on it. The Rasenshuriken is nothing more than countless blades slashing the target. On a human body like Ningendo had it might work but it already failed to leave significant damage on the third Raikage who lived up to the hype of having a body as hard as steel. The resistance of Susanoo's body decidedly exceeds the Sandaime's.
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AlphaScythian
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V2 no damage.
Madara's V3 tanked tbb and not even swords cracked.
TBB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rasenshuriken
Madara's V3 tanked tbb and not even swords cracked.
TBB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rasenshuriken
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Hirudora didn't destroy Susanoo. Even if it did, saying that since X did this, Y can do this also, is flawed reasoning.
That was because FRS is Wind. Raikage's armor is Lightning. Wind>Lightning. The same thing is not going to happen to Susanoo because there is no element for FRS to be strong against.
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V2 isn't getting out with zero damage, and Madara's Final Susanoo (V4) tanked TBB.
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Soo elemental chakra loses to regular chakra.... Then what was the point of making frs?
Anyways by hype gallant rasengan could handle this. frs isn't necessary
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No, FRS is simply not strong enough to destroy Susanoo. Whether its elemental or not has nothing to do with this at all.
Lmao, exactly. By hype. Not to mention FRS>Gallant Rasengan. Kirin>Gallant Rasengan so no it isn't doing anything to it.
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V4 correct but its was tbb and no damage was done, npt even swords that are weakest part of susanoo cracked.
U see Cho FRS yeah, kcm naruto was able to hold it, he couldnt hold a small ball of TBB thou. So get an idea on the difference.
FRS is nothing but small needle blades sand storm. No matter how big it looks none of those needless gonna brake susanoo nor all of them, at best they will polish it.