Rasen Shuriken is not destroying a Susanoo at level V2 and above.

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This massive amplification you're talking about is nonsense. You mean jutsu that made wind faster, you really think that would have a b-rank jutsu go up to one of the strongest attacks in the manga?
No, thats completely wrong.
Your entire argument is based on the fact that it MUST of been stronger, yeah at least argue with v3, because if you dont think it cant obliterate v2 you're an idiot
Then the manga must be nonsense then cause that is exactly what happened, your bitching and moaning won't change that.

He said Baku's suction will increase his power, not his speed, before pulling shit out of your ass to try and prove me wrong, take a look at the damn manga first.


Again with the rank relating to power nonsense?

V2 can protect its user from Kirin, though it gets destroyed, and you think FRS can destroy it? You really are an idiot.

V2 blocks it with damage, V3 tanks with ZERO DAMAGE.

At the end of the day this post is utter shit made by an utter moron.

Read the damn manga fool.
Sakura buster will break Susano'o ^_^. Rasenshuriken is not something that applies damage to 1 point.


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Rasenshuriken is not even on the same level of damage...

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AoE=/= Destructive power.

She can break a V1 (with one hit) but not a V2.
 

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Contrary to the belief in the OP, there isn't actually anything stating that FRS is weaker than Kirin.

They are both S-Rank techniques that have different properties. Kirin is "bigger" and "faster" but Rasenshuriken damages most people (minus the Third Raikage, whose a ****ing tank AND an Edo) at a molecular level.

So the fact of the matter is, FRS as I see it in it's basic throwable form is NOT going to break through Susano'o, but it is possible that a Ultimate FRS could.

Think about the difference between a normal Rasengan and a Ultimate Rasengan. Quite a bit.

In the case of the Rasengan, the "size does matter".
 

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maybe... the only way to go through a strong armor/barrier is a cutting/piercing power, not sheer brute force as kirin (eventhough it is lightning,its large AOE lost its piercing power and gives it a powerful explosion).... that leaves only wind/lighting element has the advantages....

thrust from hell(3rd raikage) or the blades from the RS may do the job... but the explosion from RS wont do a thing...

the logic is, even in many games... armor typres are weak against piercing/cutting attack... and another logic is that, to go pass a barrier with brute force, you need large amount of power to crush it.. if want to put in figures, for example the barrier power is 1... you need 3 punching power to go through it... but a piercing/cutting power uses less power which is 1 to go through a barrier with the power of 1... so its more effective and less energy consuming..

with that logic.... they need more cutting/piercing power to go through PS (which we dont know yet a jutsu that powerful) but TBB is also doubtful to blast through PS cause its a explosion type,not piercing...
 
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Also, Yata Mirror was not used in the blocking of Kirin.

-Itachi's V2 Susanoo blocked Kirin, but was destroyed in the process.

-Kirin is clearly much more powerful than Rasen Shuriken.

-Thus V2 and up can block attacks weaker than Rasen Shuriken, obviously.

Inb4 someone comes here saying we don't know what level of Susanoo he used.

We have already seen how long it takes for Itachi to manifest a Susanoo above lvl 3, w/Yata Mirror.
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Its impossible for him to have done this to call out a lvl 3 or 4 Susanoo before Kirin hit and we all know that a Lvl 1 can't tank it.

If that isn't enough for some people, we also have seen that both his lvl 3 and 4 Susanoo have Yata Mirror, while the others don't.
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We all know Yata Mirror's ability. It repels attacks that come in contact with it. As it did in these scans.
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If Kirin had come into contact with Yata Mirror, it would have been repelled, but instead, this happened.

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I am not saying Yata can block all attacks by the way.

Also, Itachi said that if he hadn't had used this, he would have been obliterated.
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And what Susanoo is in the panel? V2.

There is no way any Susanoo with Yata Mirror (V4 and v3) could have been involved with the blocking of Kirin, that only leaves V1 and V2, don't have to tell you which one it is. Not to mention its also impossible for him to have formed it before Kirin hit.

Also, for the ones who may not know which Susanoo is which.

This is a V1 (Ribcage)
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This is a V2 (Incomplete)
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This is a V3 (Complete)
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This is a V4 (Final)
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EMS users Final (V4) Susanoo look different than MS users do, and Madara's Perfect Susanoo is his Final Susanoo, one is stabilized and one isn't. But they are both Final Susanoo. But the Final Susanoo of EMS users has more durable armor on meaning it can tank stronger attacks.

So, FRS will do this much damage to the various Susanoo.

V1 (Ribcage): Completlely destroyed.
V2 (Incomplete): Blocked with moderate to a high amount of damage.
V3 (Complete): Very little damage to no damage.
V4 (Final, MS version): No damage.
V4 (Final, EMS version): No damage.

If you disagree, explain why with manga facts and not fanboyish posts.
I really don't know what's the point of this thread, when we already know that RasenShuriken has been improved in the recent chapter. It's like saying base rasengan can't destroy Ribcage Susanoo. To be honest, you have no valid proof or whatsoever that FRS < Kirin & your statement of Itachi used V2 Susanoo to deflect Kirin was a pure speculation on your part.

Also, we cannot accurately say that RasenShuriken won't destroy V2 Susanoo as we've never seen it fired directly in any versions of it. So stop calling anyone fan boy who disagree with you when you yourself is a one-sided Uchiha fan boy.

FRS & Kirin have different properties & we cannot calculate which one has more destructive power as we've never seen Kirin hit the ground or some other shinobi being hit by that jutsu to determine the overall damages it will take.

For all we know Tsunade's punch, Ay & Onoki's combo destroyed Madara's V2 Susanoo, & you're thinking that FRS is no way near close to that destructive power. */Sigh*
 
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I really don't know what's the point of this thread, when we already know that RasenShuriken has been improved in the recent chapter. It's like saying base rasengan can't destroy Ribcage Susanoo. To be honest, you have no valid proof or whatsoever that FRS < Kirin & your statement of Itachi used V2 Susanoo to deflect Kirin was a pure speculation on your part.

Also, we cannot accurately say that RasenShuriken won't destroy V2 Susanoo as we've never seen it fired directly in any versions of it. So stop calling anyone fan boy who disagree with you when you yourself is a one-sided Uchiha fan boy.

FRS & Kirin have different properties & we cannot calculate which one has more destructive power as we've never seen Kirin hit the ground or some other shinobi being hit by that jutsu to determine the overall damages it will take.

For all we know Tsunade's punch, Ay & Onoki's combo destroyed Madara's V2 Susanoo, & you're thinking that FRS is no way near close to that destructive power. */Sigh*
This thread was for the normal FRS, not the Oodama FRS, does it look like I care if it got improved? No, because that is not what this thread is about.

Bold shows you didn't read the thread. Cause it explains why, the other guy said the exact same thing, but was completely wrong. Tell me why V2 wasn't used and then we'll talk.

The Italicized part is the same shitty excuse all the people who have no real rebuttal come here use. Bijuu Dama and FRS have different properties but we damn well know which one is stronger, don't use terrible examples because you have no real argument, its pathetic.

Underlined shows you can't read the manga or read the thread.



Does that look like a goddamn V2 to you? No, that is a Ribcage, V1. How hard is it for some people to read the manga?

The fact you called me an Uchiha fanboy and came here with no proof, rebuttal or argument, shows that you are probably one of the people who wanked FRS's power to no end only to see this thread and get proved wrong. Fanboy=The one who disregards evidence right in front of them.

Contrary to the belief in the OP, there isn't actually anything stating that FRS is weaker than Kirin.

They are both S-Rank techniques that have different properties. Kirin is "bigger" and "faster" but Rasenshuriken damages most people (minus the Third Raikage, whose a ****ing tank AND an Edo) at a molecular level.

So the fact of the matter is, FRS as I see it in it's basic throwable form is NOT going to break through Susano'o, but it is possible that a Ultimate FRS could.

Think about the difference between a normal Rasengan and a Ultimate Rasengan. Quite a bit.

In the case of the Rasengan, the "size does matter".
Just like there isn't anything stating FRS is weaker than Bijuu Dama, but everyone who reads the manga knows which one is stronger.

Also, FRS damages at the cellular level.
 
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Well considering Rasen shuriken attacks at a cellular level I don't think the outcome would be good for the one in the path of it Sasuke would be able to see all the little blades and probably would just dodge as any smart person would.
 

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This thread was for the normal FRS, not the Oodama FRS, does it look like I care if it got improved? No, because that is not what this thread is about.

Bold shows you didn't read the thread. Cause it explains why, the other guy said the exact same thing, but was completely wrong. Tell me why V2 wasn't used and then we'll talk.

The Italicized part is the same shitty excuse all the people who have no real rebuttal come here use. Bijuu Dama and FRS have different properties but we damn well know which one is stronger, don't use terrible examples because you have no real argument, its pathetic.

Underlined shows you can't read the manga or read the thread.



Does that look like a goddamn V2 to you? No, that is a Ribcage, V1. How hard is it for some people to read the manga?

The fact you called me an Uchiha fanboy and came here with no proof, rebuttal or argument, shows that you are probably one of the people who wanked FRS's power to no end only to see this thread and get proved wrong. Fanboy=The one who disregards evidence right in front of them.
Dafuq? You're using TBB now as an excuse. Of course it's very much stronger compared to FRS, but we are talking about Kirin here, you're reasons are nothing but vauge. You're the one who should be reading manga because you cannot provide valid proof that Kirin is much stronger than FRS nor Itachi used V2 Susanoo to deflect Kirin. You assume things out of context & yet you have the guts to call other fan boys for not agreeing with you. I should have read you're username before I quoted you. I can provide manga scans where Onoki & A broke V2 Susanoo but I don't think it will matter because you will never accept no matter what!
 

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Dafuq? You're using TBB now as an excuse. Of course it's very much stronger compared to FRS, but we are talking about Kirin here, you're reasons are nothing but vauge. You're the one who should be reading manga because you cannot provide valid proof that Kirin is much stronger than FRS nor Itachi used V2 Susanoo to deflect Kirin. You assume things out of context & yet you have the guts to call other fan boys for not agreeing with you. I should have read you're username before I quoted you. I can provide manga scans where Onoki & A broke V2 Susanoo but I don't think it will matter because you will never accept no matter what!
Exactly, its clear which one is stronger just like its clear Kirin is stronger than FRS, but of course, having no real argument, you come here and say different types of damage, we can't tell which one is stronger, even though anyone with half a brain could tell which one is stronger. Its clearly the one that can destroy Mountain Sized building.

Read the damn OP, it explains why, and as you have nothing to say to refute me, nothing you say on this point matters at all. My reasons are vague yet you can't refute them.

God you are a fool.

This is the ONLY scan where Madara's Susanoo was completely destroyed.


There is NO other scan.

Unless you are talking about this scan.


Where it wasn't even destroyed, only damaged.

I'm calling you a fanboy because you come here, say I'm wrong, with nothing to refute me.

I'll ask you again. WHY, wasn't a V2 Susanoo used? If you have no answer then don't reply and gtfo.

What RS are you talking about? normal, with natural energy or with Kurama chakra?
I agree if it's normal.
The only FRS not included in this thread is Chou Oodama FRS.
 

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So do you think that all levels of FRS will do the same damage?

Also, what susanoo are we talking?, because Madara's one is more durable than Sasuke (his EMS susanoo is featless)
Nope, never said that, just that none of them are getting past V2 Susanoo.

We are talking about all Susanoos from level 2 and up. It says which ones in the OP.
 
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