Valley of the End loss?

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What? Was my post to difficult for your mind to process?

Simply put.

Naruto: Won his tiny goal of scratching Sasuke's headband, but FAILED his promise to Sakura-retrieving Sasuke and beating him into hand and hand combat.

Sasuke: FAILED to accquire his MS, but defeated Naruto in an actual fight.

Overall winner: Sasuke. He beat Naruto in actual fight. Both had failed goals, but both won some. Naruto with the headband, and Sasuke going to Orochimaru. That's 1 for both. They both lost one. They are tied now. Now, Sasuke beat Naruto in the fight itself. Sasuke win overall.


Facepalm that.
Overall it was a tie lol and scratching his headband wasnt an actual goal it was just a statement sasuke made and Naruto proved him wrong and by doing so it affected sasukes judgement and touched him and changed how he wanted to gain ems... and sasuke knew naruto wasted that blow on snatching a headband rather than attacking..
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Overall it was a tie lol and scratching his headband wasnt an actual goal it was just a statement sasuke made and Naruto proved him wrong and by doing so it affected sasukes judgement and touched him and changed how he wanted to gain ems... and sasuke knew naruto wasted that blow on snatching a headband rather than attacking..
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Keep on posting little pictures because Naruto lost. He can loose, you know.
 

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Yes whether it be fortunate or unfortunate for you lol


Sasuke's never been in a position (as seen) where he's had to spare anybody before hand. We've seen how he refused to kill those shinobi with Orochimaru (in a flashback) however that was in Shippuden. To be honest, Sasuke's had his ass handed to him more then we've seen him win if you think about it (against Haku, against Lee in first encounter, against Orochimaru first encounter, against Gaara during Shukaku phase). We can't say that he's never spared a person before as we've never seen a situation where he has had to, so saying that was what Naruto changed in him, can't really be proven with solid fact I'm afraid.

That is where we will disagree I'm afraid. You say that Naruto was strong enough to changes that mindframe of Sasuke, but I say, Sasuke was never a killer before. He never desired to kill anybody except Itachi before he actually did (didn't kill Itachi but you know what I mean). I say Sasuke won in both aspects because Naruto's words weren't strong enough of an impact to change his entire mindset, which was Naruto's goal: and it was a goal that Naruto failed, and Sasuke supressed, meaning he won there as well.

Now this is my opinion and I may not be online much longer so this maybe my final argument for the night.
I Disagree guy from the sound village sakura begged him not to kill him after sasuke broke both of his arms...
 
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naruto was already on the verge of collapsing before they formed the huge chakra-ball, while sasuke just entered cs 2, so sasuke's overall reserves at that point were much higher. the result is that naruto ended lying unconscious on the ground and sasuke standing next to him. so yes, sasuke won.
 

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he could have but didnt and he didnt land that chidori...
sasuke did a bunch of chidori's, but he did land one of them..thats for sure...the one that impaled naruto on the right side of his torso....that was a solid hit xD idk how you could say sasuke didnt land one lol, but ok, and the winner of a fight is the one who can keep going and is still standing, if i recall sasuke wasnt the one who was KO'd...u dont have to finish it by taking life...sasuke won that fight man...but its not like anyone is holding that against naruto...we all know he's strong as hell now
 
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It was a frickin tie. Sasuke could've gone for the kill, BUT HE DIDN'T. Naruto could've gone for the kill, BUT HE DIDN'T. Instead they hit the side of the chest or something, so it wouldn't be fatal) and the forehead protector respectively. They didn't put heart into that last attack.
 
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naruto was already on the verge of collapsing before they formed the huge chakra-ball, while sasuke just entered cs 2, so sasuke's overall reserves at that point were much higher. the result is that naruto ended lying unconscious on the ground and sasuke standing next to him. so yes, sasuke won.
FAIL. He was in One tailed fox mode. He had plenty of fox chakra to spare. So if he got angry enough & transformed another tail or two (which he didn't cuz they decided to end the fight) Sasuke would've been dead.
 

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Ok, Naruto proved his point, but was beaten in the process because Sasuke stood up while he was on the ground sleeping, Sasuke could have continued, Naruto couldn't.
 
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Ok, Naruto proved his point, but was beaten in the process because Sasuke stood up while he was on the ground sleeping, Sasuke could have continued, Naruto couldn't.
U should've read my last two comment. Both of them could've go the for the kill, but instead, Sasuke hit Naruto on the side, only to knock him out. Naruto could've gone for the kill too, but he hit the effing forehead protector instead. Niether of them put heart into that last attack. SO, technically, Sasuke won. But he didn't BEAT Naruto. If NAruto hit his chest, he would've been KO as well.
 

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U should've read my last two comment. Both of them could've go the for the kill, but instead, Sasuke hit Naruto on the side, only to knock him out. Naruto could've gone for the kill too, but he hit the effing forehead protector instead. Niether of them put heart into that last attack. SO, technically, Sasuke won. But he didn't BEAT Naruto. If NAruto hit his chest, he would've been KO as well.
C'mon bro, how did those last two sentences sound? You contradicted yourself. Sasuke won. He beat Naruto. xD
 

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Like Reborn stated earlier, Sasuke won no and, if's, or but's about it. To make this more simpe for you let me put this in an aspect you can undersand.

Suppose Naruto's and Sasuke's fight at the Valley of End was a video game match. Naruto being unconcious is considered a KO while Sasuke, who was still standing, would be considered a win. Irregardless of what Naruto was trying to do, which was not a fight but a goal he wanted to achieve to prove his point, which he did. Sasuke could have killed Naruto but he didn't. But nonetheless he still won the match.

Denying this simple, logical fact is just being plain old ignorant. Adding mental aspects is irrelevant because we are looking at a physical fight not a mental one.
 
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