Valley of the End loss?

[Reborn]

His goal main goal during his fight Naruto was to kill him...and when Naruto wasted his chance at harming Sasuke just to prove a point it changed how sasuke felt about acheiving the MS

Alright, I'll give you that one, but I'll ask this in response...

How does that make their fight a tie?

 

[Senju clan24]

This statement is full of #Fail, you talk like you're some special golden glove boxer philosopher, plz just stop, your statements become more and more dumber each post ten bucks sayz you never been knocked out, or knocked anybody out.

Stick to what you know boy, watchin cartoonz

I actually attend a boxing gym and have ran a few guys out the gym that went there for years b4 i even started... just because they were afraid to spar with me again... so you enjoy your cartoons

 

[Reborn]

Therefore a TIE

Please don't quote yourself, it's really arrogant.

 

[Senju clan24]

Alright, I'll give you that one, but I'll ask this in response...

How does that make their fight a tie?

because its like giving someone a free shot... u stand there and let them hit you and your not blindsided you know whats going to happen u get knocked out... are u surprised afterwards... i think not and naruto just wanted to prove a point lol.... your a smart one though lol how old are u?

 

[HinataAzula]

guys Naruto does not just physically fight anyone he also fights them mentally so taking that aspect out takes part of Naruto's being/personality or w/e away.

 

[RikudoSageNaruto]

Naruto just wanted to prove he could put a scratch on his head.I say draw.
Sasuke won by physical matters
Naruto won in a mental state,thats why sasuke didnt kill naruto when he was sleep
Naruto won by words

 

[Jack Spicer]

I don't see why everyone is taking this to heart.

Sasuke defeated Naruto, whether it was free shot or not doesn't matter. Naruto failed to retrieve Sasuke in the mission, and failed to defeat him at the Valley.

Now, I think it'd be a different story.

 

[Senju clan24]

guys Naruto does not just physically fight anyone he also fights them mentally so taking that aspect out takes part of Naruto's being/personality or w/e away.

Agreed :lili:

 

[Reborn]

because its like giving someone a free shot... u stand there and let them hit you and your not blindsided you know whats going to happen u get knocked out... are u surprised afterwards... i think not and naruto just wanted to prove a point lol.... your a smart one though lol how old are u?

That's like saying it's a fixed fight. The free shot doesn't mean it was a tie, it means that the person is letting them beat them. Now letting somebody beat them, is still beating them, even if they have the capacity to either beat that person, or to go blow for blow with them.

Getting beat by somebody is still a defeat, and a victory for them, even if you allow them to defeat you.

I now go back to your first statement (you're thread post) and say that you've contradicted yourself in your first statement with the arguments you've been giving recently about the mentality of the fight.

Thank you, I'm 16, and you're smart too and give good arguments, provided that you don't feel the need, rather the desire to insult the person. I can respectfully argue with people, but I'm not much tollerant of the insults.

 

[HinataAzula]

not if he doesn't rest a little
even Naruto needs to rest and he just keeps fighting and fighting
if sasuke killed the real zetsu then that will probably help

 

[Lankeysob]

I don't see why everyone is taking this to heart.

Sasuke defeated Naruto, whether it was free shot or not doesn't matter. Naruto failed to retrieve Sasuke in the mission, and failed to defeat him at the Valley.

Now, I think it'd be a different story.

And Sasuke failed to kill Naruto and achieve Mangekyo, so Sasuke failed at what he was trying to do as well? Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto which he didn't and Naruto was just trying to put a scratch on his headband which he did. Looks like a win for Naruto in my book.

 

[Reborn]

guys Naruto does not just physically fight anyone he also fights them mentally so taking that aspect out takes part of Naruto's being/personality or w/e away.

You feel the need to bring mentality into this, so I'll ask you this question to answer

If Naruto won in the "Mental Aspect" of this fight, why did Sasuke still leave?

 

[Jack Spicer]

And Sasuke failed to kill Naruto and achieve Mangekyo, so Sasuke failed at what he was trying to do as well? Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto which he didn't and Naruto was just trying to put a scratch on his headband which he did. Looks like a win for Naruto in my book.

Yeah, loosing Sasuke to the darkness is a win for sure.


Not talking about scratching foreheads, and the eyes, but about the fight itself: Sasuke won.

 

[Reborn]

And Sasuke failed to kill Naruto and achieve Mangekyo, so Sasuke failed at what he was trying to do as well? Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto which he didn't and Naruto was just trying to put a scratch on his headband which he did. Looks like a win for Naruto in my book.

Sasuke had full vantage to take and kill Naruto while he was unconscious, he made the choice not to, Sasuke won this fight...

I can't believe I'm defending Sasuke, even though I'm trying to be fair to him, my dislike for him is making me hate defending him so much lol

 

[RikudoSageNaruto]

You feel the need to bring mentality into this, so I'll ask you this question to answer

If Naruto won in the "Mental Aspect" of this fight, why did Sasuke still leave?

he might have left but he didnt kill naruto,listening to all wad naruto told him

 

[Lankeysob]

Yeah, loosing Sasuke to the darkness is a win for sure.


Not talking about scratching foreheads, and the eyes, but about the fight itself: Sasuke won.

If that's what you want to call a win, the yes Naruto let Sasuke win.

 

[Senju clan24]

You feel the need to bring mentality into this, so I'll ask you this question to answer

If Naruto won in the "Mental Aspect" of this fight, why did Sasuke still leave?

Because him leaving didnt involve Naruto it involved Itachi

gaining the EMS involved Naruto as his best friend and Naruto rerouted that idea during his fight at the valley of the end

 

[Reborn]

he might have left but he didnt kill naruto,listening to all wad naruto told him

Yet he still walked away because his mind set was the same as when he decided to leave, and when he fought Naruto, and also because Sasuke had the ability to actually leave, while Naruto had no such ability to stop him from doing so

 

[HinataAzula]

sasuke still left because he couldn't stand that naruto kept getting stronger faster at least thats how he saw it. what really decided him was when he was walking down the street and he saw the back of (what im guessing is a ) water tank the hole in the back was huge sasukes attack didn't do that much damage oh well ill agree to disagree lol

 

[RikudoSageNaruto]

Yet he still walked away because his mind set was the same as when he decided to leave, and when he fought Naruto, and also because Sasuke had the ability to actually leave, while Naruto had no such ability to stop him from doing so

ok good point,but i say both win in their own ways (sasuke won physically,Naruto won mentally)