Valley of the End loss?

[c3D4]

i feel Naruto didnt really loose to sasuke in that fight... if anything it was a Draw... Listen

so what Naruto was unconsicous after the last attack from sasuke but if you look closely you see that they cancelled each other out and neither attack really effected another... i feel they were both just drained after the last attack thats why Sasuke was back to normal(from the curse mark form) and Naruto was unconcious because he was drained not from sasuke... Naruto was the only one that made any contact (headband scratch) but that fight was a tie i feel

agree

 

[Animeisalive]

i feel Naruto didnt really loose to sasuke in that fight... if anything it was a Draw... Listen

so what Naruto was unconsicous after the last attack from sasuke but if you look closely you see that they cancelled each other out and neither attack really effected another... i feel they were both just drained after the last attack thats why Sasuke was back to normal(from the curse mark form) and Naruto was unconcious because he was drained not from sasuke... Naruto was the only one that made any contact (headband scratch) but that fight was a tie i feel

what your saying is...the 2 are equal...which is very true..they are equal opposites, and because theyre equal, naruto had just as much of a chance at winning the valley fight, but in the end he was KO'd man...that means he loss that fight, but it doesnt mean he'd lose the next one, as they are still equals

 

[HinataAzula]

You're welcome, and happy, early birthday.



I'm sixteen as well, so don't worry about it.

Can't stay on any longer tonight lads, and ladies, I say, goodnight NB, nice arguments however I'm going to eat a peach and go to bed.

good night and thanks for the early happy b-day xd

 

[HinataAzula]

U should've read my last two comment. Both of them could've go the for the kill, but instead, Sasuke hit Naruto on the side, only to knock him out. Naruto could've gone for the kill too, but he hit the effing forehead protector instead. Niether of them put heart into that last attack. SO, technically, Sasuke won. But he didn't BEAT Naruto. If NAruto hit his chest, he would've been KO as well.

I know exactly what u mean and there is a difference between winning and beating u guys would now that if u knew anyone that is controlling to the point of abuse.

 

[UchihaObito]

no he didnt. the chidori and rasengan clashed and made a giant orb. in the orb, sasuke and naruto were going for one final strike, sasuke with his clawed hands and naruto with his chakra cloaked hands. sasuke struck naruto first and thats what made naruto hit the headband. if naruto hit first, sasuke would have been unconscience and naruto the one looking at him.

No no no Naruto definitely went for the headband on purpose, there is nothing indicating other wise, but there is proof that Naruto wanted to put a scratch on Sasuke's head.

 

[HinataAzula]

No no no Naruto definitely went for the headband on purpose, there is nothing indicating other wise, but there is proof that Naruto wanted to put a scratch on Sasuke's head.

I concur U_U

 

[Ariow]

If Sasuke had left his headband off then he also would have been messed up just like Naruto was, those attacks were really strong his nails sliced through the forehead protector like paper imagine what it would have done to his bare flesh and bone. Yet the fight was decided and Sasuke won so get over it.

 

[raxy]

I hate to admit it but sasuke won.

 

[SAGE OF ALL ELEMENTS]

Finally, i finished reading the whole thread up to this point. okay, here is what i think. Sasuke won , even though i really wanted to say it was a tie. The post "reborn" made are really accurate and so reread his post if you believe that naruto and sasuke are a tie in that fight. Those who believe that the fight was a draw are all in denial...

 

[4NobleTruths]

i feel Naruto didnt really loose to sasuke in that fight... if anything it was a Draw... Listen

so what Naruto was unconsicous after the last attack from sasuke but if you look closely you see that they cancelled each other out and neither attack really effected another... i feel they were both just drained after the last attack thats why Sasuke was back to normal(from the curse mark form) and Naruto was unconcious because he was drained not from sasuke... Naruto was the only one that made any contact (headband scratch) but that fight was a tie i feel

For one what's the point of going in-depth about this. Kisho wrote the manga and want sasuke to win so the story can go on. Just read it and enjoy while it last. Yes you can debate about the mental aspect, but the fact is sasuke won that fight.
Your thread is about the fight not what naruto's intentions are
The thread should be about the goals of naruto and sasuke ( ex naruto scratching sasuke's headband) it would make your argument better, instead it's about the fight and you saying it's a tie/draw? Point out the other stuff i quoted on your post. Sorry would have to say you fail on that. Good information though just need better execution.
End it by saying do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future but concentrate the mind on the present moment. Cause life is to short to argue over something as this when the arthur clearly show sasuke as the winner. Sure can't argue with that

 

[Animeisalive]

He only changed Sasukes mindset on killing him at the time to gain MS... if u think about it sasuke hasnt spared one person in his way before or after gaining the curse mark so i feel Naruto did acheive enough to gain a tie in that battle... but i gues this is how we say Naruto defeated Nagato (while he was alive attack on konoha saga) But naruto didnt lay a finger on him actually he just spoke to him...im 19 and i feel this about this thread right now

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who did sasuke kill while he had the curse mark? if u ask me...that was still the good sasuke xD he didnt have killing intent until after he learned the truth from madara & directly after he cried on that cliff with madara "we are team hawk" dried tear = changed sasuke with a MS who would no longer fight with battle strategy & plans but with the power to kill easier just by looking at you & killing intent if he doesnt like you xD

 

[Dukeofhell]

i feel Naruto didnt really loose to sasuke in that fight... if anything it was a Draw... Listen

so what Naruto was unconsicous after the last attack from sasuke but if you look closely you see that they cancelled each other out and neither attack really effected another... i feel they were both just drained after the last attack thats why Sasuke was back to normal(from the curse mark form) and Naruto was unconcious because he was drained not from sasuke... Naruto was the only one that made any contact (headband scratch) but that fight was a tie i feel

its going too far to say it was a draw, sasuke was obviously the weaker link, because if naruto wanted to he could have killed him, remember naruto didnt hit sasuke with a rasengan once, because he knew it might hurt him badly, but sasuke got naruto with a chidori. naruto was faster and powerful, he could have made more shadow clones and more rasengans.
also he could have struck sasuke with a death blow but chose to scratch his headband.

 

[SanninJiraiya]

Its true that Naruto lost the fight, but he achieved his goal in scratching Sasukes headband. Its obvious that Naruto lost that special fight, but hes still alive, which means he did not lose the whole struggle against Sasukes madness.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Naruto lost that fight plain and simple. He was lying on the ground knocked out and Sasuke could of killed him if he wanted to. There's really nothing else to it.

 

[Savior..]

Naruto won the actual fight he beat sasuke down so much he passed out.

Sasuke was had no chakra nor any energy after the fight.

Naruto could of sprouted some more tails and guess what, sasuke would be dead.

 

[SanninJiraiya]

But that never happend, he had no intention to kill Sasuke.

 

[natssuu]

Naruto lost, Sasuke won, so what's so hard to understand?

 

[shadow1darkrasengun]

This is wrong during the final attack Saskue could have killed naruto but he didn't want to gain power the way his brother so he left him alive go look at the episode again he had his hand extended to stab naruto but instead he changed it to a punch knocking him unconscious

 

[Hatake Sakumo]

Naruto only lost because he didnt have the heart to go for a killing blow on his friend. He scratched his headband. Sasugay wins though

 

[Maina Deah]

Sasuke actually won