Totsuka is very overrated

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Usually I would try to counter, but you are pretty much correct even thought Totsuka is much larger than a real sword so that makes it even deadlier. :p
 

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somebody is mad.

No tosuka is not overated.

its underated on NB.

So me saying Totsuka is overrated means I'm mad? I don't get it.

also please for the love of god tell me how it's underrated?





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you do realize he mentioned exactly what you just posted?

Nagato was immobile when he got stabbed.....Totsuka only defeated 2 people who were both standing still
 

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The sword of Totsuka is not overrated by all means. Orochimaru was searching for that ethereal weapon all his life so it must be pretty good.
 

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Hashirama can stop a PS sword in BASE and said sword blew up 5 mountains each many feet away


In other words totsuka cant kill anyone in the top 15
 

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The sword of Totsuka is not overrated by all means. Orochimaru was searching for that ethereal weapon all his life so it must be pretty good.

Oh Totsuka is definitely a good weapon, but it's overrated.

I highly doubt it can take down the juubi. People like to use Totsuka as an excuse for an instant win scenario with Itachi making it overrated in the process.

Also Totsuka can't create widespread destruction like the PS sword or change from sword to bow arrow or to ranged magatama like Sasuke's Amaterasu Sword
 
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It's a very powerful weapon but I agree it's kinda overrated.
Considering that Orochimaru was caught off guard (he didn't know it was Totsuka), got stabbed directly and STILL managed to escape its sealing power with 3 snakes proves it's not that ultimate and its effect can be bypassed.
 

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Oh Totsuka is definitely a good weapon, but it's overrated.

I highly doubt it can take down the juubi. People like to use Totsuka as an excuse for an instant win scenario with Itachi making it overrated in the process.

Also Totsuka can't create widespread destruction like the PS sword or change from sword to bow arrow or to ranged magatama like Sasuke's Amaterasu Sword

It does say that the Sword of Totsuka is able to seal ANYTHING it pierces, which includes the Juubi

I agree with how some ppl overrate the sword overrall by itself. Zetsu said having the combination of Totsuka & the Yata Mirror made Itachi essentially invincible...alone, just having the sword of Totsuka makes him one killer shinobi you gotta be alert at all times of where the attack is coming but not an automatic win in and of itself. It's all about perfect timing and surprise. No instant win. But having both the Sword and the Yata Mirror makes Itachi nearly impossible to defeat according to Zetsu...but no instant win

Bu then as far as weapons....Only Madara's Perfect Susano'o has the power behind his blade to surpass The Sword of Totsuka. Madara's Pefect Susano'o is capable of destroying all matter and destroying land masses...awesome!! Madara #1
 

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Totsuka hit two near immobile people (Orochimaru was a giant target and Nagato had no use of his legs) and suddenly it can take down everyone. Don't touch the sword, don't get sealed. Simple.
 

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boys, and your Totsuka blades...
 

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It does say that the Sword of Totsuka is able to seal ANYTHING it pierces, which includes the Juubi

I agree with how some ppl overrate the sword overrall by itself. Zetsu said having the combination of Totsuka & the Yata Mirror made Itachi essentially invincible...alone, just having the sword of Totsuka makes him one killer shinobi you gotta be alert at all times of where the attack is coming but not an automatic win in and of itself. It's all about perfect timing and surprise. No instant win. But having both the Sword and the Yata Mirror makes Itachi nearly impossible to defeat according to Zetsu...but no instant win

Bu then as far as weapons....Only Madara's Perfect Susano'o has the power behind his blade to surpass The Sword of Totsuka. Madara's Pefect Susano'o is capable of destroying all matter and destroying land masses...awesome!! Madara #1

well what Zetsu recited was the legend about Totsuka....and legends tend to be embellished

Yata Mirror is said to repel all attacks, but the Kabutowari(One of the Seven Swords) is said to smash all defenses......so one of them must be not true

which just proves that not all legends are real
 

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It does say that the Sword of Totsuka is able to seal ANYTHING it pierces, which includes the Juubi

I agree with how some ppl overrate the sword overrall by itself. Zetsu said having the combination of Totsuka & the Yata Mirror made Itachi essentially invincible...alone, just having the sword of Totsuka makes him one killer shinobi you gotta be alert at all times of where the attack is coming but not an automatic win in and of itself. It's all about perfect timing and surprise. No instant win. But having both the Sword and the Yata Mirror makes Itachi nearly impossible to defeat according to Zetsu...but no instant win

Bu then as far as weapons....Only Madara's Perfect Susano'o has the power behind his blade to surpass The Sword of Totsuka. Madara's Pefect Susano'o is capable of destroying all matter and destroying land masses...awesome!! Madara #1

wow so you believe everything zetsu said about the totsuka.

so you should also believe what itachi said about jiraiya in part one. he said he can't beat jiraiya.

you should also believe what madara said about his sword. that it can destroy all creations. right?

you should also believe what was said about kusanagi sword. that it can pierce through anything right?

you should also believe what was said about kabutowari, that it can break any defence right?

you should also believe what was said about amaterasu, that it's fire is as hot as the sun right?
 

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well what Zetsu recited was the legend about Totsuka....and legends tend to be embellished

Yata Mirror is said to repel all attacks, but the Kabutowari(One of the Seven Swords) is said to smash all defenses......so one of them must be not true

which just proves that not all legends are real
Given that the Yata Mirror is one of the weapons of the Japanese gods...supernatural weapons over non-supernatural any day. The Yata Mirror & Madara's Susano'o are the few exceptions to the rule for Kabutowari because they're powers of the Japanese gods...

Some legends are embellished but so far in the Naurtoverse they all tend to be true. Ppl thought that Hashirama's power was too great to be true too. But looking at the gap between the power of Madara and the current kages, and given that Hashirama is slightly greater than even that, Hashirama really was as powerful as stated.
 

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Given that the Yata Mirror is one of the weapons of the Japanese gods...supernatural weapons over non-supernatural any day. The Yata Mirror & Madara's Susano'o are the few exceptions to the rule for Kabutowari because they're powers of the Japanese gods...

Some legends are embellished but so far in the Naurtoverse they all tend to be true. Ppl thought that Hashirama's power was too great to be true too. But looking at the gap between the power of Madara and the current kages, and given that Hashirama is slightly greater than even that, Hashirama really was as powerful as stated.

yeah in japanese legend.....Naruto only takes inspiration from them, but the only "gods" in Naruto are the Juubi, SO6P, and Kaguya


we don't know the origin of the totsuka, which could have been man-made. If you read the databook it says that it's a variant of the Kusanagi blade.....meaning it was created by the same individual and shares similar qualities.


also what happens when totsuka attacks yata mirror? You said it yourself....Totsuka pierces through anything and yata mirror repels all attacks
 

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wow so you believe everything zetsu said about the totsuka.

so you should also believe what itachi said about jiraiya in part one. he said he can't beat jiraiya.

you should also believe what madara said about his sword. that it can destroy all creations. right?

you should also believe what was said about kusanagi sword. that it can pierce through anything right?

you should also believe what was said about kabutowari, that it can break any defence right?

you should also believe what was said about amaterasu, that it's fire is as hot as the sun right?

No, Itachi can take Jiraiya....can't takee everything Itachi sys as true, as Kabuto pointed out, Itachi is the master of deception. He lied every step of the way throughout his life for the beterrment of Konoha.He lied to Kisame to talk them out of attacking Jiraiya. Itachi couldn't afford to take out Konoha's most powerful shinobi given their weakened state. Plus we know for a fact that Jiraiya had an inside man in Akatsuki; and we know that Itachi joined Akatsuki for the sole purpose of protecting Konoha and keeping an eye on Akatsuki ensuring they don't make a move on the village. Logic only dicates that Itachi has to be the inside man giving Jiraiya his information. So Itachi did what he could to avoid a confrontation his his contact guy. Not to mention the fact that Itachi is a pacifist and wishes to avoid fights all together iif he could. And if he couldn't avoid killing. A fight with a Sannin wouldn't end well given the level of the fight.

Now of course I believe Madara. he's never lied yet and we've seen his Susano'o blade take out that entire landscape with just one swipe. So it hasn't been disproved yet

The kusanagi sword can pierce any mortal item. It's only thing it can't are supernatural powers/beings/items such as Perfect Susano'o & the Yata Mirror

Amatarasu is the power of the gods. So yea. Until it's been proven wrong otherwise. There's been nothing else powerful enough to stop it. it can even burn that to which has the power of fire
 

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Amatarasu is the power of the gods. So yea. Until it's been proven wrong otherwise. There's been nothing else powerful enough to stop it. it can even burn that to which has the power of fire

if amaterasu was as hot as the sun, then it would have wiped out every being on the planet.....also it would burn faster.

When amaterasu hit the samurai, they were burning for a good 10 minutes and didn't even burn through their armor
 

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yeah in japanese legend.....Naruto only takes inspiration from them, but the only "gods" in Naruto are the Juubi, SO6P, and Kaguya


we don't know the origin of the totsuka, which could have been man-made. If you read the databook it says that it's a variant of the Kusanagi blade.....meaning it was created by the same individual and shares similar qualities.


also what happens when totsuka attacks yata mirror? You said it yourself....Totsuka pierces through anything and yata mirror repels all attacks

but the powers of the Rinnegan & EMS grants one the power of the gods. Amaterasu, Sussano'o, Meteors, Creation of All Things, Yata Mirror, Totsuka Sword, Izanami, Izanagi, Human Path, Preta Path, and the Outer Path

We do know that the Totsuka Sword & Yata Mirror are 2 of the three sacred treasures, which include Yasakani no Magatama. Zetsu called them supernatural weapos.....supernatural, i.e. not human...until proven otherwise....supernatural variants

IDK what will happen if the Sword of Totsuka & Yata Mirror collide. I would assume they cancel each other out
 

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but the powers of the Rinnegan & EMS grants one the power of the gods. Amaterasu, Sussano'o, Meteors, Creation of All Things, Yata Mirror, Totsuka Sword, Izanami, Izanagi, Human Path, Preta Path, and the Outer Path

We do know that the Totsuka Sword & Yata Mirror are 2 of the three sacred treasures, which include Yasakani no Magatama. Zetsu called them supernatural weapos.....supernatural, i.e. not human...until proven otherwise....supernatural variants

IDK what will happen if the Sword of Totsuka & Yata Mirror collide. I would assume they cancel each other out

The Shinigami seal is a supernatural weapon, but it was invented by the Uzumaki.

Yata Mirror and Totsuka are not powers, they are items

also a paradox would then go against their definition.....which would mean their literal power of blocking everything or piercing anything is false
 
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if amaterasu was as hot as the sun, then it would have wiped out every being on the planet.....also it would burn faster.

When amaterasu hit the samurai, they were burning for a good 10 minutes and didn't even burn through their armor

Amaterasu isn't literally as hot as the sun. The manga is clear to only say that Amaterasu is able to burn whatever it is targeted on, even if that target is fire

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Nothing is strong enough to put out Amatarasu's flames except the power of Sasuke's eye, and it can burn even fire itself.
 

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Amaterasu isn't literally as hot as the sun. The manga is clear to only say that Amaterasu is able to burn whatever it is targeted on, even if that target is fire

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Nothing is strong enough to put out Amatarasu's flames except the power of Sasuke's eye, and it can burn even fire itself.

so if amaterasu isn't literally as hot as the sun, then Totsuka can't literally pierce and seal anything.

Can Totsuka pierce the Earth and then seal it?
 

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The Shinigami seal is a supernatural weapon, but it was invented by the Uzumaki.

Yata Mirror and Totsuka are not powers, they are items

also a paradox would then go against their definition.....which would mean their literal power of blocking everything or piercing anything is false

the Yata Mirror & Totasuka are items/weapons of the gods. I never said power

and their claims are still true with just the one exception, which are each other. Hence why the person who wields them both are practically invincible because the only thing that can either pierce the defense or block the attack are in the possesion of Itachi
 
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