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Ignorance. This statement alone proves everything you've said thus far is ignorance at its pinnacle.

Maybe try to explain how my comment is ignorant next time, instead of proudy showing off your arrogance.

You seem to have this imaginary sense of superiory over your elders, showing us the extent of your delusion.

Just because you got into an argument with your mom, due to your short temper, and now you hate her with all your guts, doesn't mean you have THE RIGHT to go around telling people theyre ignorant, unless they say "Move out, you're mom is a ****ing *****"

He asked for advice. I gave HIM the advice, not you. Stop getting your panties in a twist.
 
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Maybe try to explain how my comment is ignorant next time, instead of proudy showing off your arrogance.

You seem to have this imaginary sense of superiory over your elders, showing us the extent of your delusion.

Just because you got into an argument with your mom, due to your short temper, and now you hate her with all your guts, doesn't mean you have THE RIGHT to go around telling people theyre ignorant, unless they say "Move out, you're mom is a ****ing *****"

He asked for advice. I gave HIM the advice, not you. Stop getting your panties in a twist.

You guys are really grasping at straws.
 

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Maybe try to explain how my comment is ignorant next time, instead of proudy showing off your arrogance.

You seem to have this imaginary sense of superiory over your elders, showing us the extent of your delusion.

Just because you got into an argument with your mom, due to your short temper, and now you hate her with all your guts, doesn't mean you have THE RIGHT to go around telling people theyre ignorant, unless they say "Move out, you're mom is a ****ing *****"

He asked for advice. I gave HIM the advice, not you. Stop getting your panties in a twist.

He still has a point tho. (btw you Sound really rude)
I experienced stuff my Mum didn't and she was unable to give proper advice back then.

Also everyone is an individual. We do different things and gain different experience. My mom helped me a lot with many things but at times she couldn't.
 

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You guys are being so rude. He obviously turned to this site for Guidance, consider his feelings, try to empathize with him. Obviously, he is feeling a bit down already, Im all for the "tough love" approach but there is a way to so everything.
 

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You are that guy who always ask should I work here or here,should I become this or this, should I learn this language or this , should I buy this or this.Sorry but considering that you need to ask those things I doubt you are smart enough to make right decision.

Just listen to your mother.
 

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My mom owes me a lot. But I won't go into detail. I'm tired of her yelling at me, controlling my life decisions. I'm 23 now. What should I do? I'm living with her at least until I graduate with my associates degree. Should I leave soon? Or after I get my degree? Or should I just get a postal job or join the military?? Help me please!

I'll be honest with you... This has to be the post that has responded to me personally the most on NB since 2015 and let me tell you why.

I'm in your shoes bro, albeit I'm 2 years older (25). Nothing tempts more than to move on the spot and nothing feels more right than to move as soon as I can. It's been on my mind since I came back home from my 1 year term military service back in December of 2014, and the only reason I haven't moved out yet is because of money.

Money is the answer to everything my friend. I've been working for almost 10 years but I've never worked more than merely part time, earning just a small enough amount to live my own life until 2015, that's when I finally started working more to realize that I can actually start saving up and still hanging out with friends every now and then. I've been torn up about whether to rent or to buy something of my own, and the more I save up the more I lean towards the latter. The only problem seems to be time however. The constant nagging from my mother treating me like I'm still only 10 years old, the constant pressure to establish oneself...

It can really take a toll on you, that's for sure. For me it's all about grinding... I argue almost every day with my mother, almost to the breaking point but I know, just a little longer now, just a few more months and it will be worth it. Move now and the best I can do is probably a year before I need to move back home broke again, that has been my constant reminder for the last year.

No matter how hard it is, no matter how tired you are and no matter how much you just want to say fu*k it and get the hell out, make sure you reach that goal of yours, finish up school and then take it from there, trust me on that. Move too soon and it might backfire, move too late and well... It's all about balance. For me it feels as though I'm going on autopilot right now, just taking day by day getting through work to earn that money that I will need. My head is constantly set upon that future where I've already moved and not a single day goes by without me thinking about it. But I know that it will all be worth it if I can stick to my plan to reach my goal.

Just need to grind a little bit more, a little bit more...




PS: Try to keep the discussion clean guys, too many assumptions and accusations going around here.
 
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You are that guy who always ask should I work here or here,should I become this or this, should I learn this language or this , should I buy this or this.Sorry but considering that you need to ask those things I doubt you are smart enough to make right decision.

Just listen to your mother.

Don't those threads somewhat support the notion that he's going through a tough decision? He might be feeling indecisive about what to do next, which bleeds into other aspects of his life. I see that he's been making threads about things like job advice, which could mean that he's actually been thinking about it for a while.

I'd rather PM the OP or wait for him to respond before making any conclusions. I just don't understand why people are making blanket statements like this... if his mother says he should just go off himself, should he still listen? Not that I think it's that extreme, but details are important!

I'll be honest with you... This has to be the post that has responded to me personally the most on NB since 2015 and let me tell you why.

I'm in your shoes bro, albeit I'm 2 years older (25). Nothing tempts more than to move on the spot and nothing feels more right than to move as soon as I can. It's been on my mind since I came back home from my 1 year term military service back in December of 2014, and the only reason I haven't moved out yet is because of money.

Money is the answer to everything my friend. I've been working for almost 10 years but I've never worked more than merely part time, earning just a small enough amount to live my own life until 2015, that's when I finally started working more to realize that I can actually start saving up and still hanging out with friends every now and then. I've been torn up about whether to rent or to buy something of my own, and the more I save up the more I lean towards the latter. The only problem seems to be time however. The constant nagging from my mother treating me like I'm still only 10 years old, the constant pressure to establish oneself...

It can really take a toll on you, that's for sure. For me it's all about grinding... I argue almost every day with my mother, almost to the breaking point but I know, just a little longer now, just a few more months and it will be worth it. Move now and the best I can do is probably a year before I need to move back home broke again, that has been my constant reminder for the last year.

No matter how hard it is, no matter how tired you are and no matter how much you just want to say fu*k it and get the hell out, make sure you reach that goal of yours, finish up school and then take it from there, trust me on that. Move too soon and it might backfire, move too late and well... It's all about balance. For me it feels as though I'm going on autopilot right now, just taking day by day getting through work to earn that money that I will need. My head is constantly set upon that future where I've already moved and not a single day goes by without me thinking about it. But I know that it will all be worth it if I can stick to my plan to reach my goal.

Just need to grind a little bit more, a little bit more...




PS: Try to keep the discussion clean guys, too many assumptions and accusations going around here.

Thanks for sharing!
 

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Thanks for sharing!

Sure thing!

Just came from an hour long heated argument with my mother and just happened to stumble onto this post and felt like replying. Not too often I post anything on NB these days, and the only reason I saw this was due to NB still being my homepage, haha.

Still though this thread also reminds me why I lost interest in NB in the first place, too much argument going around resulting in closed threads. It's probably only a matter of time before another interesting thread is ruined yet again by eager trolls (none of them seems to care much for that first warning) doing everything to insult each other, sigh...

:wesobi:
 
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Sure thing!

Just came from an hour long heated argument with my mother and just happened to stumble onto this post and felt like replying. Not too often I post anything on NB these days, and the only reason I saw this was due to NB still being my homepage, haha.

Still though this thread also reminds me why I lost interest in NB in the first place, too much argument going around resulting in closed threads. It's probably only a matter of time before another interesting thread is ruined yet again by eager trolls (none of them seems to care much for that first warning) doing everything to insult each other, sigh...

:wesobi:

I swear you and Vex are the only smarts ones here.

Everyone is either dumb or just a crappy person.

To me, it's not about people being dumb or mean or anything like that. There's a bunch of bright people here on NB. It's just that, by next week, this thread will likely be forgotten by everybody here... except for the OP. If he's legit reaching out to other people, it could have effects that last the rest of his life. If he's a troll, then that just means everybody (including him) will forget this next week.

And I'm sorry to hear about all the trouble at home... since you've been through military service, do you suggest OP does the same?
 

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To me, it's not about people being dumb or mean or anything like that. There's a bunch of bright people here on NB. It's just that, by next week, this thread will likely be forgotten by everybody here... except for the OP. If he's legit reaching out to other people, it could have effects that last the rest of his life. If he's a troll, then that just means everybody (including him) will forget this next week.

And I'm sorry to hear about all the trouble at home... since you've been through military service, do you suggest OP does the same?


You havent responded to my comment yet :sniff:
 

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And I'm sorry to hear about all the trouble at home... since you've been through military service, do you suggest OP does the same?

It's been like that for as long as I can remember so I'm getting pretty used to it. As soon as alcohol is involved however, that's a different story altogether but let's not get into that, haha.

Well it depends really. I graduated High School when I was 19, took a year off to just work and do things I liked before I went to something called Folk High School (more of a northern Europe thing as my research tells me) when I was 20. Still the best year of my life (studied away from home that year). Came back and continued working for half a year until I went to the military in 2014 the year I turned 22. Not as great as that year on the Folk High School, but everything else considered, it's still one of my best years mainly due to spending time away from home I reckon. Then in 2015-2016 I took a one-year term at an University while working part-time and have been working more or less full time since then. My original goal was of course to move out at the beginning of this year, but I realized I had been naive thinking I could move out without a single coin saved up, lol, and that is why I'm stuck for a little while longer.

So back to the topic of interest... If by what I think he means it sounds as if he's asking whether to apply for the military as part of an education, in that case I don't know the answer, heck, it might even be different where he lives than where I live, but if it's down to a 1 year "standard" military service term then by all means he should, as I learned and grew a lot personally by that year alone. It's not for everyone however, and as I recall that one year was the worst of his life for one of my friends. The main difference being that I volunteered and he got elected as part of obligatory service.

However, aborting a 3-5 years higher study in order to do so? I'm not sure that's a great idea to be honest.
 
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Do you work? Do you have any savings? If you do, why don't you move out of the family house and rent a place somewhere with friends or by yourself? You're 23, and it's time to start living an independent life as an adult.
 

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Yes, we both agree that if she takes his wage every month, then he should negotiate with her, since her husband should give her money, not her son. But, he should still stop counting every cent and every now and then pay for her needs. Thats the least he could do.

If the mom should except her son not to owe her any money, it has to be the other way around aswell. Theyre family after all. This also cant be compared to a random stranger giving you 1 million.

I agree with you, that he should slowly live his own life, since he is 23, BUT he shouldnt be like "im out of the house, i dont need to take care of her anymore".

An example would be my mothers family: She immigrated to Germany in the early 90s, while her 2 siblins and mom are still in the other country. She still transfers money to her every month and says that she must visit and stay at hers every summer (vacations), because she could die any moment, leading to her regretting, and, a mother is the most important person in ones life. Of course, her siblings also take care of her.

(Btw that 40k is most likely a made up amount given the troll threads of OP)

That's kinda what I meant about details: Is it a more serious issue, such as claiming his wage, or is it actually only $10 here and there? But really now, is it fair to be certain that he's lying about the 40k based on some of his threads in the past? I looked through his threads, and for the most part they just seem like hot-topic Naruto stuff he discusses for fun. Maybe it's one way for him to relieve the stress of his life at home?

If he's a troll, then whatever. This thread won't last forever. I'm going to assume the 40k figure is legit because what else do we have to go on? I'm not going to be helping him financially, so I'm not invested in fact checking everything. This is more of a hypothetical case, eg. WHAT IF there's somebody in his position. I'll be honest and say I barely know the OP. The topic itself just interests me, and I can potentially help somebody at the same time, so it's a win-win!

I still argue that raising a child has the expectation of spending a chunk of money to ensure they grow up fairly capable, whereas a child doesn't "ask" to be born into this agreement. Some parents actually see having children as an investment and go through the years training their children so that one day, they can buy them a sweet house for retirement. There's really such a broad range of parents out there that it's hard to pinpoint all possible scenarios. What I can agree on however, is that the OP has less wiggle room to ask his mother for things the same way he did 10 years ago. She may be in a position to charge rent money (even though this can be potentially seen as a **** move). It would be amazing if they could get along, but there seems to be a lot of bad blood at the moment. If she's been the least bit supportive of her child during his lifespan, I hope she does receive some form of compensation, but alas, it'll be the OP's decision.

Yes, there are many stories, like the one you shared, that would lead children to regret not taking better care of their mom. I constantly feel the desire to help out my own mother, even though she selflessly never asks for anything in return. However... I do know of cases where a mother's death simply doesn't resonate with the children. Some even quietly confess that they felt like a burden was lifted off of them. Sometimes, the mother was very destructive with their sons and daughters. Other times, the mother was nice and nurturing, and yet the children still couldn't care less (this is what saddens me). I say let the OP build himself a stable life first, and THEN start helping out his mom. If he can invest in a future, he'll be better prepared to help her down the road when medical complications start piling up.

Personally I was born in Saudi Arabia, but live in the U.S. now. My mom's parents died when she was young, and I know she wishes that she could've gotten to know them more. My dad's father kidnapped my dad's mother at a young age and forced her into marriage. You can probably imagine what impact that could have on my dad's lifestyle. He got into a fight with his father years later and eventually moved to America for college. They've held bad blood ever since. And yet, when my grandpa died a few years ago, I could still feel that my dad regretted not being around him more despite his draining upbringing. In both cases, family played a big portion in their lives. I just don't want to assume that it's the same for everybody.

People in Saudi Arabia are more family-oriented then people in the States, from what I've seen. I think culture plays a big part into it!

*Also, I'll reply to more people later, gotta do a few things first
 
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I don't talk back to her. I'm tolerating this for the moment. My sister talks back a lot. I feel like I'm just living the life my mom wants me to have, not the life that I want to have. She's married. Owes me $40,000+


Hm, lets see. She: carried you for 9 months despite the toll it has had on her body; fed you; sheltered you; raised you; taught you right from wrong or at least played a key part in your morals; collectively spent way over 40,000 on you. The list is endless.

> Owes me $40,000.

Man shut your ungrateful, bitch ass up. She's your mother. You can have as many girlfriends as you want in your life, but you're only given one mother. Fuck a $100,000, she's priceless. But of course, you're too stupid to see that. So carry on with your current attitude, we'll see who'll be balling their eyes out and full of regret on the day she passes.​
 

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She yells at you? So what? My mom yells at me all time. Doesn't matter. All our moms yells at us. Every mom of every member in this site. You're no special. However, you piss me off complaining about your mom, you piece of shit. Suck it up and be a man. No matter how old you are, you are a kid in her eyes.
 

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I don't talk back to her. I'm tolerating this for the moment. My sister talks back a lot. I feel like I'm just living the life my mom wants me to have, not the life that I want to have. She's married. Owes me $40,000+

This sound like you are talking about your ex wife and not your own mother.
 

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You're first mistake is being 23 years old and still living at home and you should have been had that degree but shit happens I guess. If you don't pay bills then you really shouldn't be complaining.

You might as well join the military
 

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Where did he say she takes his cash?

What im saying is counting the money a family member owes is embarassing. She spend 23 years raising you, plus the 9 months in the womb, took care of you, gave you food, bought you everything and he expects her to give him 40k. They spend more than a million on him in those 23 years.

If he is 23 and letting them control him he should man up. He should support his mom until she dies, by giving small amounts of money WHEN needed and other things

I don't want her to pay me. I want her to let me control my destiny fully
 

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I'll wait for the OP to respond since I can't be certain, but I assumed it was from his pay since parents taking from their children is actually a problem in many areas. If you Google the topic you can find quite a lot on the subject. If it really is from his paycheck, then that raises a lot of other problems. Regardless, the OP is asking if he should deal with it and wait for the degree or take more direct action and move out. Is the latter what you mean by manning up? There's a middle ground where he can try to negotiate with his mother, but it's not as concrete of an option as the other 2.

The money is from when a van hit and almost killed me when I was 10
 

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I don't want her to pay me. I want her to let me control my destiny fully
Then man the hell up and talk to her instead of creating threads whether a ps4 or xbox onr is better

The money is from when a van hit and almost killed me when I was 10

When was that? If it was when you were a kid she has every right to take the money
 
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