The Five Hokages vs. Akatsuki

[Owarij]

Okay, I will reference the databooks. Stat wise, the only kages with databook stats are Tsunade, Hiruzen and Gaara. 35,34, and 29. Now, Gaara is young so lets cut him out. The next databook will show gaara much stronger now than the last. Tsunade is in her prime at the time of the stats, Hiruzen was past his. THE ONLY MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN RATINGS HIGHER THAN 34 ARE ITACHI AND SASORI. Now, the only member who has been given stats above a Hokage in their prime is Itachi, with a 35.5, Sasori has a 34.5. And we all know how weak we like to call Tsunade. Guess what. She is at least 2.5 points higher than all the Akatsuki except for Itachi.(Nagato and Tobi have no rating yet).

Deidara- 32
Hidan- 31.5
Kakuzu- 32.5
Kisame- 32.5
^^^^^^^^^^^NOT KAGE LEVEL. All of these characters were defeated by characters not Kage level. Sasori was as well.

I know these stats aren't completely accurate, but do you really think Kishi would give someone a rating higher than another character who he thinks is stronger?

.....The stats do not matter Gai has a 31.5 rating and Kisame is 32.5 and gai still won.......The Hokages are simply outnumbered and outclassed....The have 0 chance of winning.. expecially with deidaras nano bombs there....2 Rinnegan useers.....someone who negates minato's ftg......and much much more..

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Could Akatsuki beat the five hokage? Of course, its 9 on 5. However, I think that the Hokage's top three are more powerful than the Akatsuki top three. Furthermore, Tsunade and Tobirama, I think, can hold their own against the rest of Akatsuki, who are NOT Kage level until the others get back.

 

[Turson]

Okay, I will reference the databooks. Stat wise, the only kages with databook stats are Tsunade, Hiruzen and Gaara. 35,34, and 29. Now, Gaara is young so lets cut him out. The next databook will show gaara much stronger now than the last. Tsunade is in her prime at the time of the stats, Hiruzen was past his. THE ONLY MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN RATINGS HIGHER THAN 34 ARE ITACHI AND SASORI. Now, the only member who has been given stats above a Hokage in their prime is Itachi, with a 35.5, Sasori has a 34.5. And we all know how weak we like to call Tsunade. Guess what. She is at least 2.5 points higher than all the Akatsuki except for Itachi.(Nagato and Tobi have no rating yet).

Deidara- 32
Hidan- 31.5
Kakuzu- 32.5
Kisame- 32.5
^^^^^^^^^^^NOT KAGE LEVEL. All of these characters were defeated by characters not Kage level. Sasori was as well.

I know these stats aren't completely accurate, but do you really think Kishi would give someone a rating higher than another character who he thinks is stronger?

Databook stats are useless in thread like this. On the beginning of Shippuuden Naruto and Sakura were tied in stats, does that mean she was as strong as him? I will repeat myself: majority of Akatsuki were kage level ninja shinobis: Tobi, Nagato, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu and Kisame. Sasori even killed the strongest kage of his village when he was 15 years old and had whole power of said kage to his disposiotion later on. Its not hard to see on what level they were, when you compare their power and skills to that of skilled jounins, like Asuma or Darui.

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

.....The stats do not matter Gai has a 31.5 rating and Kisame is 32.5 and gai still won.......The Hokages are simply outnumbered and outclassed....The have 0 chance of winning.. expecially with deidaras nano bombs there....2 Rinnegan useers.....someone who negates minato's ftg......and much much more..

Kisame didn't have Samehada.

Outnumbered yes, Outclassed HELL NO

I don't think I have been clear enough. Deidara is a non-factor. As is Hidan(stupid as hell), Kakuzu(defeated by Hashirama before,defeated by Kakashi and Naruto), and Kisame(lost to Guy)

Rinnegan can be defeated. Six paths fell to Naruto, Madara is about to die as well. As is Tobi.

Who negates FTG and how? And I want proof from the Manga.

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Databook stats are useless in thread like this. On the beginning of Shippuuden Naruto and Sakura were tied in stats, does that mean she was as strong as him? I will repeat myself: majority of Akatsuki were kage level ninja shinobis: Tobi, Nagato, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu and Kisame. Sasori even killed the strongest kage of his village when he was 15 years old and had whole power of said kage to his disposiotion later on. Its not hard to see on what level they were, when you compare their power and skills to that of skilled jounins, like Asuma or Darui.

Lol Sasori lost to Sakura, Deidara lost to Sasuke before MS, Kakuzu lost to Kakashi, then base Naruto, Kisame lost to Guy. Are any of those kage level?

Basically, do you think any of the Akatsuki, with the exception of Nagato, Tobi and Akatsuki, truly have a chance against any of the Hokage?

 

[Turson]

Lol Sasori lost to Sakura

... and Chiyo. These two were best available combo against him. Moreover, he was only using small part of 3rd Kazekage human puppet potential. He only decided to use "a little bit more chakra" when he used Satetsu Kaiho. Not to mention, that in the end he let himself be killed.

Deidara lost to Sasuke before MS

Sasuke with mastered CS, Sharingan and Raitons. Not to mention Sasuke who has taken over Orochimarus jutsus. Put Mei or Tsunade to fight Deidara and they would end up being owned.

Kakuzu lost to Kakashi, then base Naruto, Kisame

Kakuzu was defeated by whole Konohas team, it wasnt 1 vs 1 battle.

Are any of those kage level?

Yup, all of them.

Basically, do you think any of the Akatsuki, with the exception of Nagato, Tobi and Akatsuki, truly have a chance against any of the Hokage?

Of course, majority of Akatsuki would defeat Tsunade or old Hiruzen. However, when Im saying that mojority of Akatsuki were Kage level shinobis, Im talking about average kege level, not level of Hashirama or Minato.

 

[Owarij]

sigh i can't argue with him....

 

[Blaze Release]

sigh i can't argue with him....

You shouldnt.
Deidora has beaten a kage. Sasori has beaten a kage. Kakuzu fought the 1st hokage and survived. Oro has beated 2 kages. Tbh the fact that they have been successful in capturing 7 tailed beast alone says it all.

Ive just been reading some of his comments and tbh i just lol at them

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Wrong. Both Tobirama and Minato are terrific sensors. Please read my above entry and give me feedback lol

If Minato was a sensor, he'd know Tobi was sneaking up behind him and wouldn't have gotten caught and almost warped, if Tobirama was a sensor I'd like a manga pic of him sensing chakra, putting finger on the ground can't sense what is in the air. Sadly the Hokages lose, bet you wishing they trusted one measly Uchiha to make one Hokage lol.

 

[Minato namikaze2]

akatsuki for sure

 

[Scorpio0Pharaoh0Titan]

You need help.
Current tobi alone, i dare say will solo this battle and come out triumph. To say he needs konan to beat hashirama is stupid.

Sasori alone can beat tobirama, if you add kisame thats overkill

Lmao at hiruzen beating nagato. Even in his prime, hiruzen isnt winning this.

All akatsuki members would still be intact, ready to pounce on tsunade and minato

lmao, no.

The five hokage's would destroy the akatsuki.

Healer/offense - Tsunade
Sealer/Offense/Diversion - Minato
Sealer/offense/knowledge - Hiruzen
Sealer/Offense/defense - Tobirama
Offense/Defense/endurance - Hashirama

The fact that you have tobirama who was up against 22 S LEVEL SHINOBI... is impressive.

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

... and Chiyo. These two were best available combo against him. Moreover, he was only using small part of 3rd Kazekage human puppet potential. He only decided to use "a little bit more chakra" when he used Satetsu Kaiho. Not to mention, that in the end he let himself be killed.

Sasuke with mastered CS, Sharingan and Raitons. Not to mention Sasuke who has taken over Orochimarus jutsus. Put Mei or Tsunade to fight Deidara and they would end up being owned.

Kakuzu was defeated by whole Konohas team, it wasnt 1 vs 1 battle.

Yup, all of them.

Of course, majority of Akatsuki would defeat Tsunade or old Hiruzen. However, when Im saying that mojority of Akatsuki were Kage level shinobis, Im talking about average kege level, not level of Hashirama or Minato.

I don't dispute that, I was being sarcastic and consider Sasori an actual challenge to most Kage.

You sound mega sexist right there, regardless of whether or not you really think they are weak. Lol not saying you are, just seemed like you were singling out the women I definitely would take Tsunade or Mei over Deidara anyday.

Kakuzu was defeated by an upper level jounin(Kakashi, who was being held back by a terrible group that he had to protect) and BASE Naruto. Not impressed lol

I even disagree with that statement completely. You are seriously underrating Tsunade and its kind of alarming. Tsunade would defeat all the Akatsuki one on one with the exception of Itachi, Nagato, Tobi and POSSIBLY Sasori (although I still say Tsunade could more than likely beat him, because she is a bad matchup for him). As for old Hiruzen, he was able to bring Orochimaru to a stalemate. Orochimaru is more powerful than all the Akatsuki except for Itachi, Nagato and Tobi.

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

You shouldnt.
Deidora has beaten a kage. Sasori has beaten a kage. Kakuzu fought the 1st hokage and survived. Oro has beated 2 kages. Tbh the fact that they have been successful in capturing 7 tailed beast alone says it all.

Ive just been reading some of his comments and tbh i just lol at them

Deidara beat a Kage strictly because Gaara was more worried about the village. Gaara was raping him, just sayin.

True but the third Kazekage isn't on the level of the first, third or fourth Hokage.

LOL he survived...great accolade.

Orochimaru isn't included, its already been made clear. Pay closer attention to the thread please.

Lol Hashirama had all of them at one point by himself.

I lol at all of your fanboy comments about Itachi and Nagato. As well as the fact that you NEVER present anything other to a debate other than trolling comments and agreeing with what others have thought out intelligently, like Owarij.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

if nagato and itachi were there the hokage is dead

 

[harsha]

if its the whole team of akatsuki then i would doubt if the kages can win...

 

[Blaze Release]

lmao, no.

The five hokage's would destroy the akatsuki.

Healer/offense - Tsunade
Sealer/Offense/Diversion - Minato
Sealer/offense/knowledge - Hiruzen
Sealer/Offense/defense - Tobirama
Offense/Defense/endurance - Hashirama

The fact that you have tobirama who was up against 22 S LEVEL SHINOBI... is impressive.

I cannot be bothered to argue with people who would never accept the truth even when its right in front of them. Funny how you basically just looked at the abilities of the hokages and didnt even care to take a look at those of akatsuki.

Also where did you get the idea of tobimara going up against 22 s-rank ninjas. As far as im aware it didnt say anything about their ranks. Fact is sasori beating a whole country is more impressive. Nagato taking on konoha is more impressive. Itachi killing the most powerful clan with little help at the age of 13 is more impressive.

 

[Blaze Release]

Deidara beat a Kage strictly because Gaara was more worried about the village. Gaara was raping him, just sayin.

True but the third Kazekage isn't on the level of the first, third or fourth Hokage.

LOL he survived...great accolade.

Orochimaru isn't included, its already been made clear. Pay closer attention to the thread please.

Lol Hashirama had all of them at one point by himself.

I lol at all of your fanboy comments about Itachi and Nagato. As well as the fact that you NEVER present anything other to a debate other than trolling comments and agreeing with what others have thought out intelligently, like Owarij.

Gaara wasnt raping anybody. He had the advantage due to the location and still lost. Also the 3rd kazekage was said to be the strongest kazekage ever. Therefore you downplaying sasori's victory by saying he isnt on the level of the 1st,3rd or 4th hokage is laughable considering you have no proof.

Anyway ive stopped arguing with people who would deny the truth. Fact is akatsuki will have little trouble beating the 5 hokages

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Gaara wasnt raping anybody. He had the advantage due to the location and still lost. Also the 3rd kazekage was said to be the strongest kazekage ever. Therefore you downplaying sasori's victory by saying he isnt on the level of the 1st,3rd or 4th hokage is laughable considering you have no proof.

Anyway ive stopped arguing with people who would deny the truth. Fact is akatsuki will have little trouble beating the 5 hokages

Fact is, none of us know who would win. Which is why this is so debatable. Good try at being Kishi though.

 

[Paintachi]

If the akatsuki includes Itachi or Nagato then its over for team kages.

 

[Miruto senpai]

I don't know who the heck thinks that the kages can take on all akatsuki, when just Itachi, Nagato and his paths and tobi and his paths would own them xd