Stop the Violation of the System

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One must never argue with ze leaf...I do agree with what your saying... I was just saying that if it dont work then why dont you just listen to the people for once



why you throw lowblows at me... ? :(
why did you try getting in a cheapshot on me just cos you saw people saying things about me?
 

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So, role-players, how do you feel about yourselves? Economy alright? Wife doing fine? Why are you ruining the system? House okay? Work going good? Why are you ruining the system? Kids growing up? Parents making do? WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING AND RAPING THE SYSTEM?

So, what's the problem, Zero? Is it the role-play again? Mods getting you down?
No, actually not. While I certainly am disappointed that none of my suggestions were implemented, I can live with it. You know why? Because I've had an insider-experience. I've seen WHY we CAN'T have nice things in the role-play.
Why? Because people violate them to the absolute maximum.

Recently, I got re-acquainted with 'X'. X is a nice guy, but he makes the weirdest things sometimes. In X's bio he has a note wherein it is stated that X is immune to his own Custom Element and, apparently, all heat-related techniques. With that single note, X has effectively made the Fire element, Lava Element and all variations of them, useless.
All it took was for the bio-checker to overlook that single note.
Isn't that incredible? One would think that we follow some sort of 'logic' here on NB, but apparently not. Seriously, we can't even be trusted with our own biographies because we hide abilities and powers in our bio history. Is that not ridiculous? Are we really so immature that the Moderators have to proof-read every single thing we do and submit?

Some people still argue that their own techniques are unable to harm them. Luckily, we, as a collective, seem to have reached consensus that such a notion is untrue. So, I ask, why wouldn't X be affected by his own Custom Element if he somehow gets hit by his own technique? Why wouldn't heat affect him?

It's the same thing wherever you go. The Ion Particle Armor gives its user 3rd Gate speed with no drawbacks. Furthermore it boosts its user's Lightning Techniques with +20. The difference is that the Ion Particle Armor was created during a time where this sort of power was more regular. More people had access to such a level of speed or power. Today, it's a bit different.
I actually thought that we'd be long past the stage where we try to do such ridiculous things, but it seems obvious that we aren't. Want an example?
Ever heard of Kyoku? It's a technique of Z' that makes YOUR character's brain create a continuous F-ranked illusion that can only be broken through pain. Funny thing is that Z can make you forget how to stand, run, perform techniques, breathe, etcetera, with that technique.
Why? Because the technique is long and ambiguous.

K can cancel all Ninjutsu up to and including S-ranked with his sword. Holy crap, right?

Techniques have notes that seem to be misspelled. Instead, it turns out that the 'earth cannot be used next turn'-note actually had the intention of diallowing the use of the Earth element for the opponent, too. What?

We see examples of this even in the 'cannon' part of NB. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultimate defense technique:

Chakra Mayu [Chakra Cocoon]
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Rank: Medschool Mastery
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: the same with the offensive jutsu used (if the damage is 80 the chakra loss will be 80 etc)
Damage Points: 0
Description: The medschool senseis/masters use this technique in the battle field. In order to heal someone in the middle of it, while there are offensive jutsus thrown all over the area the healer in order to heal self or any other will generate the medical chakra to create a cocoon made of pure chakra to cover -in a shape of a bubble- his/hers and the patient's body to heal them in peace. The cocoon is made by drawing a sign in the air and it is created instantly. The technique can also be used in wars as protection against offensive jutsus.

Y used this to protect himself against severla high-ranked techniques. He answered this question:
"Then i break it with the lightning chain infused with +20 damage from my armor making it F ranked?
Can't be everlasting and unbreakable. lol"


With:

"it is, basically, you cant touch me, i cant touch you kinda deal while it is active as this system we currently have means theres no limit to my chakra"

And guess what? No usage limitations. Ah, the joy of Medjutsu, no?

I am not suggesting a complete re-do, nor am I suggesting the complete removal of these abused systems.
My suggestion is simply that the Mods should be given the power to revoke a Custom Jutsu/Custom Element Justu if it's proved to be too over-powered for the current role-playing setting. This has been done before, yes, but I think it should become a a more permanent part of our role-play.
The idea is that if you abuse something and/or sneak something stupid through the check, there should be no reward for you on the other side.
Same thing with biography abilities, and even Custom Elements.

All it takes is that the active role-players remain vigilant. If you see a technique that's grossly over-powered and being abused; notify an RP Mod.

Don't reward these sneaking bastards! Give 'em hell!
That being said; do support my Point System! =D
That being said; don't ruin everything for everyone else! =D
That being said; practise what you preach! =D

I'm not talking about fast techniques or hardcore techniques. You'll know when a technique is stupidly overpowered. Something that gives you 3rd Gate speed and can remain activated through the entire fight? Stupidly OP. Complete immunity to one or several elements? Stupidly OP.

Peace
-Zero
You have too much time on your hands.
 
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why did you try getting in a cheapshot on me just cos you saw people saying things about me?
you must didnt look deep into what im saying?

The exact same thing i told you to do.. Im a master at it and was told that years ago..... Open your mind to options... Its NB rpers you are tying to help... not yourself..... Observe what people are saying... IF Majority of NB dont like the OP stuff but yet you guys ignore it... then what happens to rping supposed to be for fun... If its for fun you would try to make it as fun as possible. granted you have people who will oppose... Just remember... and please do remember and this is in no way trying to offend you.... What you do on NB is not un-doable...And majority of NB rpers ARE NEWBIES! so please... Observe sometime.. Im the master of observing
 

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.-. you know just reading HALF the posts in this thread (i stopped after Cali's walli because it was giving me a headache x_x) makes me want to say this one thing...

F*** BEING OP!

It will do nothing but cause arguments between everyone. I had always thought of improving my skills so that I could be slightly OP but no, f*** it. The only thing I want to improve in now is my skill at fighting with only basics and non-OP customs.
 

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.-. you know just reading HALF the posts in this thread (i stopped after Cali's walli because it was giving me a headache x_x) makes me want to say this one thing...

F*** BEING OP!

It will do nothing but cause arguments between everyone. I had always thought of improving my skills so that I could be slightly OP but no, f*** it. The only thing I want to improve in now is my skill at fighting with only basics and non-OP customs.
*throws you my bios and customs and runs*

Free at last!!!!
 

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.-. you know just reading HALF the posts in this thread (i stopped after Cali's walli because it was giving me a headache x_x) makes me want to say this one thing...

F*** BEING OP!

It will do nothing but cause arguments between everyone. I had always thought of improving my skills so that I could be slightly OP but no, f*** it. The only thing I want to improve in now is my skill at fighting with only basics and non-OP customs.
I feel your pain x_x
 

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Btw Minato.... If you can see this then good.. Idc if its spam... Infract me if needed
but look at scorps profile and see what i said about the summons
since you can edit the list... can you add my summons.. I would write you
but... you blocked.. me :|
 

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Isn't SY considered one of the Great RP'ers, well then let him do this "Check everything again" thing, and let's see how many Jutsu he'll Re-evaluate before saying F This... ( No offense to you Hokage-sama ofc 0_0 )
I'll accept your challenge.

I've been reading this thread and all I see is fighting, finger pointing, bitching, whining and spamming. In the last 2 pages I don't think I've read one thing to work towards a solution. Look, this idea isn't perfect but it's working towards a solution to a problem that has been hounding the RP for nearly 2 years. The problem is that it's not fair to the people who are getting cut back and to the people who have to do the cutting. I think we can find an acceptable solution. I'll write more tomorrow when I have more time.
 

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I'll accept your challenge.

I've been reading this thread and all I see is fighting, finger pointing, bitching, whining and spamming. In the last 2 pages I don't think I've read one thing to work towards a solution. Look, this idea isn't perfect but it's working towards a solution to a problem that has been hounding the RP for nearly 2 years. The problem is that it's not fair to the people who are getting cut back and to the people who have to do the cutting. I think we can find an acceptable solution. I'll write more tomorrow when I have more time.
I did. :shy:

About that...

If you want to become specialized in something you must show your use of it through the battles you've used the certain element. These fights must be embedded into your bio. And once your bio has a specialty you cannot switch it for 2 months.

I know it would take more time while checking bios but in the end it kinda would be worth it. Don't you guys think?
 

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I have mixed opinions on this thread to be honest.
From Zero's post, all I see him saying is that some Over Powered Jutsu (CJ/CE/Medjutsu) exist and need restricting and revoking, I don't really see them as Overpowered though and I don't have a problem with any of them, that's just my opinion. But I do believe that some techniques and Bios need further investigation. But what you could have done Zero is report the CJ/CE/Bio and it would have been most likely taken care of and/or an explanation given..instead of this thread which is drawing in Spam and Flaming.

I personally don't have a problem with the current system though.
 

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Why couldn't you bring these problems straight to a mod? Instead you decided to pull this stunt which hasn't ended well at all. Before you made this thread you should have looked back and remembered Xanthes thread like this, it accomplished nothing but flaming, spamming, and butthurt people.
I can understand you wanting things fixed and wanting updates but why make this thread? Just do a little more research, compile it, organize it, and then form a grammatically respectful PM and send it off to Cali or even Nexus.
I mean for God sakes people its an rp game on a forum. For it to cause this much drama and this much of a problem for you just, wow.
This isn't real life. If this RP and its "problems" or "flaws" are the most of your problems(which they seem to be) then again, wow, count yourselves lucky.

EDIT: Infract me, warn me, ban me, hate me, neg rep me, I dont really care but what I just posted needed to be said.
 
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.-. you know just reading HALF the posts in this thread (i stopped after Cali's walli because it was giving me a headache x_x) makes me want to say this one thing...

F*** BEING OP!

It will do nothing but cause arguments between everyone. I had always thought of improving my skills so that I could be slightly OP but no, f*** it. The only thing I want to improve in now is my skill at fighting with only basics and non-OP customs.
Finally, someone that understands me.
 
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