...(Spoilers)Damage control? Shin is just stronger than we thought

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all of sasukes chidori attempts in pt2 , he never used handsigns so i dunno who told you chidori needs hand signs
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Right before his first "official" chidori .

If he didn't do them it's kishi voluntary mistake ( he wont draw each time the hand sign, for the display it can cut the "flow")
 

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It doesn't matter, it's a variation of TSB that was formed using the Bijuu chakra. The only difference is the Kekki Mora like you said.
Naruto's TSB only requires the basic elements + Ying/Yang.
It does matter
TSB's has nvr been shown getting reformed while Expansive TSB is formed from Shinjus chakra
Expansive Truthseeker Orb (膨張求道玉, Bōchō Gudōdama)

It is listed as a Kekkei Mōra, Ninjutsu. It says that she used the Divine Tree to absorb Chakra from all of the Shinobi and create a maximized (極大化) Truthseeker Orb. The equivalent (同じ物だが, same/identical/similar) black orbs that appear behind Naruto's back when using Six Paths Sage Mode can't be compared to its dimensions. Comprised of all five elements and yin-yang, it had the power to obliterate the world and return it to nothing.

↑ Caption: Comprised of all Chakra natures, a vast, expanding mass is filled to the brim. Created to reshape the world, it was a huge mass of chaos.
It's not like Naruto knows he can reform them or how to mix them to form. Those FRS variants came from the Bijuu.
Clap Clap and neither does kishi but u somehow know it
But like the other guy said it may be only through Hagoromo and his seal/chakra that he can do it.
He is using RSM currently :| he has Rikudo chakra
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Right before his first "official" chidori .

If he didn't do them it's kishi voluntary mistake ( he wont draw each time the hand sign, for the display it can cut the "flow")
Wil u read his post again
all of sasukes chidori attempts in pt2 , he never used handsigns so i dunno who told you chidori needs hand signs


Why does he grab his arm when he preps Chidori..
To make it look cool
and grabbing an arm is not equal to making handsign :|
 
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It does matter
TSB's has nvr been shown getting reformed while Expansive TSB is formed from Shinjus chakra


Clap Clap and neither does kishi but u somehow know it

He is using RSM currently :| he has Rikudo chakra
I figured he attained RSM through having chakra from all 9 Bijuu and TSM. And that the Seal is the hago chakra.

I mean a dead guy gave you his limited chakra (Obito DMS style) to you over a decade ago and you still have it?

I was being sarcastic about the part you boded btw.


and this part.

The equivalent (同じ物だが, same/identical/similar) black orbs that appear behind Naruto's back when using Six Paths Sage Mode can't be compared to its dimensions.

It cant be compared to it's dimensions aka size (a measurable extent of some kind, such as length, breadth, depth, or height.)
 

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and this part.

The equivalent (同じ物だが, same/identical/similar) black orbs that appear behind Naruto's back when using Six Paths Sage Mode can't be compared to its dimensions.

It cant be compared to it's dimensions aka size (a measurable extent of some kind, such as length, breadth, depth, or height.)
Yup they are identical who the hell cannot see that
Naruto/Madara/Obito directly gets their TSB's when they enter ther RSM/Six Path Coffin seal whatever mode while Kaguya forms it using Shinjus chakra
 

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Wil u read his post again
I read and I talked about this part:

who told you chidori needs hand signs
Next time, think before that. ;)

bac to buisness, did the rules of how ninja techniques works changes between parts ?

To use a technique you need hand sign. Chidori need a hand sign. Clones needs a hand sign. The only techniques that don't need hand signs are pure chakra manipulation ( rasengan, bijuu bomb) and doujutsu.

Why sasuke don't do it in part 2 ? Because either kishimoto, in order to keep a panel flow clear made this "mistake" of not showing it, or he is too damn lazy to put them.( if it's volountary or not, I won't be as sure as I stated just earlier, maybe he just forgot like a lot of things)

In the gaiden he do the hand sign with his valid hand so he seems to have remembered some of his previous rules.
 

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Yup they are identical who the hell cannot see that
Nruto/Madara/Obito direct;ly gets their TSB's when they enter ther RSM/Six Path Coffin seal whatever mode while Kaguya forms it using Shinjus chakra
The point being is that it was form. That it's a TSB and it's possible that it can be done if the user knows how to. I mean TSB are just Chakra natures yin/yang and a sprinkle of bijuu chakra. That's 100% what it's composed of and each of them have the ingredients to do so. Why they didnt is speculation. But judging how BZ explained her TSB, and your databook pull. I'm going to stick to my guns and say they can.

To make it look cool
and grabbing an arm is not equal to making handsign :|
I never said that. And I really doubt he did it to look cool.

Isn't that what you do when you make chidori idk? lol
I'm just wondering.

I figured he did it to focus it or something

 

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I read and I talked about this part:
He was talking about Part 2 bro
The point being is that it was form.
yup becoz it was the expansive version a Kekkei mora used only by Kaguya formed via Shinjuu's chakra.
She dosen't get by enetring RSM
That it's a TSB and it's possible that it can be done if the user knows how to.I mean TSB are just Chakra natures yin/yang and a sprinkle of bijuu chakra. That's 100% what it's composed of and each of them have the ingredients to do so. Why they didnt is speculation. But judging how BZ explained her TSB, and your databook pull. I'm going to stick to my guns and say they can.
Unlike Expansive Goudama it is not formed just appear behind the people who blossoms Six Path senjutsu
Truthseeker Orbs

Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.

PS: I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.

I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the Ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".

I never said that. And I really doubt he did it to look cool.
Okay
 

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Right before his first "official" chidori .

If he didn't do them it's kishi voluntary mistake ( he wont draw each time the hand sign, for the display it can cut the "flow")
i clearly said part 2 which is when he mastered it completely.

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its not drawing msitake. once you master chidori you dont need handsigns.
 

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its not drawing msitake. once you master chidori you dont need handsigns.
This is BS. Where this is said ?
No matter how much you master something, if it needs a hand sign you still need a hand sign.

Naruto master the shadow clones like no one, he still need hand signs.
Sasuke do the hand sign in the gaiden.

If the author says something, do it several times but then don't do it with no explanation, it's a mistake. ( voluntary or not, it's not us to decide)
 
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This is BS. Where this is said ?
No matter how much you master something you still need a hand sign.
Naruto master the shadow clones like no one, he still need hand signs.

If the author says something, do it several times but then don't do it with no explanation, it's a mistake.
He is right Sasuke nvr used handsign for chidori in part 2
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This is BS. Where this is said ?
No matter how much you master something you still need a hand sign.
Naruto master the shadow clones like no one, he still need hand signs.

If the author says something, do it several times but then don't do it with no explanation, it's a mistake.
its simple logic. the more you get used to something, the better you use it efficiently. naruto has also made a one handed rasengan even though he needed clones for it before. chidori works like raikiri and kakashi doesnt use handsigns for raikiri. madara used a without handsigns so no not every jutsu requires handsigns, stuff like that are based on skill and mastery

i gave you six clear scans of sasuke doing chidori with handsigns, if your counter is "kishi made mistakes" then dont bother replying.

He is right Sasuke nvr used handsign for chidori in part 2
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lol even forgot about those. he is using kishi made mistake as a counter.
 
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He is right Sasuke nvr used handsign for chidori in part 2
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I never said he didn't for god sake.

I said that excuse like mastering something to going against rules stated by the author is a pile of non-sense. Even the guy who created it , 15 years before still need the hand sign.
The only credible explanation is that he did it in the motion and were not shown. If not, then those are errors, that he didn't deem important enough to correct.

I have explain myself the possibilities of such errors ( because they are mistakes, no matter what fantasy fanfiction you can put)
- He didn't do them in order to keep the panel flow dynamic. ( a voluntary mistake, something comprehensive in a weekly release)
- Too lazy or not had time
- He simply forgot (like boruto/himawari byakugan).
 

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I never said he didn't for god sake.

I said that excuse like mastering something to going against rules stated by the author is a pile of non-sense. Even the guy who created it , 15 years before still need the hand sign.
The only credible explanation is that he did it in the motion and were not shown. If not, then those are errors, that he didn't deem
No he didn't use handsign even a single time while using Chidori in part 2.If u can show me even a single scan of Sasuke from part 2 using Chidori with handsign then we can talk

so fodder naruto really lost RSM.....it was true after all
He just used RSM in chp 4
 
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This what I really think. Don't care if I banned.

OT: Relying on fan translations in this case really isn't a good idea right now.
 
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