Sasuke is logically faster than Naruto without his modes.

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Animation of the Kinshiki asswhippin' makes Sasuke look worse.

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Well it sure does. He fought for his life back there but no point telling that to Sasuke fans. That'd trigger them further.

I see I've already triggered quite a lot. And all I did was post facts lol.
 
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Here we see base Sasuke react to a sneak attack from Kinishiki while having his only hand full:
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And here we see Naruto fail to do the same to Momoshiki who is physically weaker than Kinshiki and has far less range:
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So yeah Base Sasuke>Base Naruto in speed, but anyone who's not a complete Naruto fap/Sasuke hater should already know this.
 
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There was nothing substantial about the changes in the manga that over supersede the movie. It can't be a retcon if events that took place in the manga are identical to the events in the anime. The only thing different is that the fight was extended which happens in anime all the time
The gif you provided has been rectonned.
 

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Here we see base Sasuke react to a sneak attack from Kinishiki while having his only hand full:
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And here we see Naruto fail to do the same to Momoshiki who is physically weaker than Kinshiki and has far less range:
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So yeah Base Sasuke>Base Naruto in speed, but anyone who's not a complete Naruto fap/Sasuke hater should already know this.
Well, that is obvious, Sasuke's rikudo boost by nature works differently from Naruto in that it doesn't need a mode. The real discussion is that if, following the whole "eyes and body" aspect of Indra and Asura, Naruto really has superior physical feats like a better speed or if both are equal both physically and in Ninjutsu.
 

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Well, that is obvious, Sasuke's rikudo boost by nature works differently from Naruto in that it doesn't need a mode. The real discussion is that if, following the whole "eyes and body" aspect of Indra and Asura, Naruto really has superior physical feats like a better speed or if both are equal both physically and in Ninjutsu.
No, they recived equal amounts of rikudo chakra and got boosted equally in base, nothing suggests what you said.
All we know is that they're equal in overall battle power, Naruto should be superior in physical ability via bijuu cloak and RSM.
 

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Re: Sasuke is logically faster than Naruto without his mode

@ bold It only doesnt hold if you have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old. Why would Sasuke fight two outerdimension shinobi's with no knowlege of their abilties and he is low on chakra from dimension traveling.

I didnt make an argument using this at all, you're the one bringing up Sasuke retreating as some sort of evidence. Why does nothing you say make sense. You're always reaching from one step to another. Momoshiki appeared once throughout the whole fight. It was never implied Sasuke was fighting them both at the same time.




Dude you're the one who brought up Momo's use of ninjutsu as some sort of back track speed argument. :| like what does Momo branch technique have to do with Sasuke,Naruto or Momoshiki foot speed.

Did Momo use this technique against Naruto? Was Sasuke unable to react to it? no he started swinging his sword at them

You confirmed Sasuke was nerfed by saying"no dont try to use sasuke cant use susanoo argument".

@bold are you really this slow tho?Susanoo is faster than Sasuke swinging his sword at it. Of course knowing you, you will probably starting saying some more nonsense about this :lmao:





but just before that Sasuke is the one who climbed on top of his back and pinned his weapons. Sasuke losing his sword doesn't mean much. Sasuke was never tagged once in the battle.



You're the one with stupid logic. Implying base naruto is faster than Sasuke when base naruto did absolutely shit to Momo no matter how much you want to hype his 1 arm block to Momo's attack as if Momo is a speed god or momo was using his absolute full speed attacks against Naruto.

Naruto landed no hits on Momo whatsoever so i dont understand how you can start throwing random shade and nonsense.

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Here is
Sasuke dodging Kinshiki's attack while being blind sided.


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Here is
NAruto getting blind sided and kicked by Momoshiki who also is (physically inferior to Kinshiki in everyway)

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What feats. You're just posting some overhyped nonsense you naruto fanboys picked out because you think getting kicked and surviving means Naruto's base speed is equals to Sasuke now.


Your arguments are super weak.
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Did you just claim that Kinshiki is physically superior to Momoshiki in every way? What makes you think that?
 

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No, they recived equal amounts of rikudo chakra and got boosted equally in base, nothing suggests what you said.
All we know is that they're equal in overall battle power, Naruto should be superior in physical ability via bijuu cloak and RSM.
Well, you do have a point in that. Maybe Sasuke just has a natural advantage in base speed, he always did, ever since his Chunin Exams training, arguably before that. So its only natural that he Hasan advantage on Naruto even post Rikudo boost. But I still think Naruto with his Bijuu Cloak still beats him handily, if you don't count Amenotejikara in.
 

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Well, you do have a point in that. Maybe Sasuke just has a natural advantage in base speed, he always did, ever since his Chunin Exams training, arguably before that. So its only natural that he Hasan advantage on Naruto even post Rikudo boost. But I still think Naruto with his Bijuu Cloak still beats him handily, if you don't count Amenotejikara in.
That's pretty much it, Naruto should be far superior in physical ability with his forms, but Sasuke's EMS precog along with ameno more than make up for this, that's why we've seen him keep up with JJ Madara when the gap between the two is much bigger than the one in question.

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Did you just claim that Kinshiki is physically superior to Momoshiki in every way? What makes you think that?
The fact that Momoshiki was running away from Darui while Kinshiki was going head to head with Sasuke
 
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That's pretty much it, Naruto should be far superior in physical ability with his forms, but Sasuke's EMS precog along with ameno more than make up for this, that's why we've seen him keep up with JJ Madara when the gap between the two is much bigger than the one in question.
Fair enough.
 

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No, they recived equal amounts of rikudo chakra and got boosted equally in base, nothing suggests what you said.
All we know is that they're equal in overall battle power, Naruto should be superior in physical ability via bijuu cloak and RSM.
unlike naruto sasuke's rinnagan is always active so he has no base
 
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