I don't see why the wg needs to find it. They already know about the blank period or whatever. They have all the treasure they need. If anything it being hidden at Rachel helps them . they only need to stop others from finding out about everything if anything. Roger did them a favor leaving it there and now all the wg really needs to do is just prevent people from getting there
[Discussion] People still underestimate akainu?
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chopstickchakra
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I thought everyone was after OP tbh. The pirates for the legend the WG to find what he hid. They'd want to find it before pirates to control whatever it is that would come out which would shake the world, or however WB phrased it. Them leaving it out in the wild, for lack of a better term, is risky to their control if the hype around it that WB gave it is even partially true.
Because it's literally the main reason for piracy in the current OP era. If the WG displayed they had Rogers treasure a large chunk of pirates would give up right off the bat. Another large chunk would be way too inconsequential to challenge them for it. It would go a long way in tipping the balance in their favor if the world knew they already had Rogers treasure under lock and key and to get it you had to go through them.
chopstickchakra
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When did I get into another debate on this thread? Are you referring to when I asked you if that was the correct translation? You may want to recheck because I don't recall pushing the issue, just stating that's not how I've heard it interpreted. By the way, posting a forum where forum members agree on a translation is not the same as presenting an official translation. And it'd make no sense for the WG to not be actively seeking something which if found would shake their grip on authority to the core. No sense.
So show one time where the government has sent out anyone to find it or mentioned trying to find it. Ill wait. Youll lose this debate . cause lets be honest. The world government if they wanted too, could use the admirals and or the warlords to go get one piece right now with a crew of vice admirals. Then they can use either the admirals and or warlords along with garp/sengoku/gorosei/etc to guard marineford
Btw i posted 4 different sources. I havent seen anyone else post just one
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This is proven over and over again but u guys latch on to that. Oda was trying to say u can’t make the main character op or else the story would end soon. We already know who he hyped the most which is kaido. You guys are just plainly clinging to some statement to over hype akainu
chopstickchakra
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It's not a debate because I'm not claiming anything. I asked in my first post and explained in my reply it's an assumption because why wouldn't they be after the most risky thing to their power? It makes little to no sense that they'd just let something like that be out for the taking.
Yeah and all of the sources are fans interpretations of the one fan translation of that interview.
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Databook claims it was a skirmish. Akainu didn’t kill wb, he got free shots along with 86 other marines and then B.B. came to join in on the fun. And the guy also wanted to use squardo to get one more free hit. And to boot wb was sick. Yea cool story bro.
Are u dense , u do realize power isn’t the only factor right, wb was straight up just taking hits because he was old, in the past he was able to dodge even friendly surprise attacks. So wb was not close to his best. If akainu was laying on the floor like he was a healthier wb would have ended him with a bisento attack.
Shanks was shown to match wb with no illness, match with WSS, and wg wasn’t going to mess with him at the war. All tht is pure hype which is beyond akainu, if u switch akainu and shanks, there’s no way he’s sliding to the ground to rest from a battered wb.
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Shanks has physical feats like losing his arm to a sea king and getting a scar from BB, even telling WB that he wasn’t being careless with Teach. It nothing compared to Akainu or WB. We literally have one feat from Dragon. But he’s on the Yonko and admiral level based on Sabo’s feats(first mate level), and being the leader of Revs(he’s basically a yonko because of how much territory he’s influencing) being stronger than Sabo. But yes I put Aokiji above Dragon based on how long Aokiji fought with Akainu.
Shanks has subpar feats
But shanks still has feats. Feats relating to his physical capabilities
Yes because oda directly said that to the audience
humans are under the category of creature. When Kaido is using his fruit he’s the strongest living thing on the planet.
Shanks feats are lower. The punch was meant for Kobe.
chopstickchakra
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So to be clear are you saying this is Oda saying Akainu is the strongest in the story? Because if so I do disagree with that translation. It makes no mention if there's any other characters who could also do it in a year or even faster. I'm pretty sure the statement was made to address his main characters power level while at the same time hyping Akainu's but not to claim Akainu is the strongest character in OP.
Oda has stated before his favorite character is akainu. Akainu also killed ace. Akainu will also be a later opponent than kaido so you fkn idiot quit crying like a bitch damn . fn crybaby
But according to recent interviews his favorite character is not akainu anymore
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He's underestimated because he's an admiral. The common belief in the OP community is admirals are weaker than Yonkos, so because Akainau is an admiral, he's underestimated. But what OP fans think is quite irrelevant. What matters is what Oda thinks; he always portrayed the admirals and Yonkos as equal to each other.
As of now, Akainu is the strongest but he'll be surpassed by Blackbeard and Luffy.
As of now, Akainu is the strongest but he'll be surpassed by Blackbeard and Luffy.
chopstickchakra
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Really the manga has presented one Admiral= one Yonko huh? Then why did the WG muster everyone they could to secure Ace's execution from one yonko? If that were the case then they wouldn't have needed all those people.
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I don't know why this is apparently rocket science to grasp lmfao. Why the **** would the Navy go for an EVEN match against enemies? Is this how armies work? "Alright, we have overwhelming resources to go find that terrorist, but let's send one small unit with minimal weapons so they can have a fair chance too, okay? Okay."
chopstickchakra
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Did you miss the parts where they kept saying it was necessary to have that much security because it was WB they were facing. If 1 admiral could have killed the Yonko then the fleet admiral and Garp plus the rest of the grunts would have been a definite win they wouldn't have needed the other 2 admirals and the shichibukai.
There's been no indication that an admiral could defeat a yonko on their own.
chopstickchakra
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Because other people are talking like that small unit is the overkill. People are talking about 1 admiral taking out an entire yonko crew with only a handful or no support. If that's accurate(which it's not) then Sengoku wouldn't have felt he needed all 3 admirals, himself, Garp and the shichibukai system to help ensure Ace's execution went off without any problems. Sengoku realized how much it would take to defeat a yonko, I don't know why you guys have such a hard time grasping it?
If they knew it took all that to take out 1 Yonko and knew to stand down when a 2nd arrived because they were too depleted to continue without suffering big losses then how is it 1=1? And what would they do if by some chance the Yonko decided to team up and come at them all 4 at once? I mean if they're equal it shouldn't be a problem but 2 at once made them stand down?
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