[Discussion] People still underestimate akainu?

[Sakazuki]

People still overestimate Akainu?

Nah literally like 3 people here agree with me. Theres no way hes overestimated maybe go reread this thread before you come up with such idiotic conclusions

 

[LBeezy]

People still overestimate Akainu?

People still overestimate Akainu.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So the schibukai aren’t allied with the marines? They are employed by the WG to counter pirates. The war with wb was proof of that. The schibukai by themselves do not equal the yonko or the marines.

Pro-tip: My posts are in written form. When you reply, try reading them, since I never said that the Shichibukai and Marines aren't allied.

The Shichibukai and Marines are meant to create an advantage over the Yonko. If Shichibukai+Marines=Yonko, then it'd be the balance of Two Powers where the Shichibukai and Marines are considered one entity. It's the balance of Three Powers, meaning it's meant to be Shichibukai=Yonko=Marines

All the war with WB proves is that the Shichibukai are meant to be an advantage, not a catch-up. Out of seven intended Warlords, only five were present. One was fighting alongside the Marines in compliance due to having no consciousness. Two of them were dicking around punching well below their pay-grade. One was dispatched by the first competent fighter he challenged, and the fifth was fighting against the Marines. And the Marines SWEPT the Emperor they were fighting. The Emperor side lost two of their best players and had serious injuries to others, while the most damage to a top Marine player didn't even stop him from fighting just as hard as he was before. It was shown that, following WB's death, the WB pirates were turning tail and being gunned down by the Marines.

The reason the Shichibukai aren't equal to the Marines and Yonko despite that being the intention behind them is that the Shichibukai is a failed system.

 

[Skull Knight]

Shichibukais can never be equal to Yonko's strength.
Mihawk is Yonko lvl but the next strongest guy Doffy isn't Yonko FM lvl guy. At best he is 4th strongest guy in Yonko crew.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Shichibukais can never be equal to Yonko's strength.
Mihawk is Yonko lvl but the next strongest guy Doffy isn't Yonko FM lvl guy. At best he is 4th strongest guy in Yonko crew.

In other words they’re a failed system. Kinda like Smoker and Fujitora have been saying.

 

[Skull Knight]

In other words they’re a failed system. Kinda like Smoker and Fujitora have been saying.

Undoubtedly they trying to remove Shichibukais system as mentioned by Fujitora since Shichibukais has caused more bad rep to WG then newbie pirates have.

 

[Sakazuki]

Shichibukais can never be equal to Yonko's strength.
Mihawk is Yonko lvl but the next strongest guy Doffy isn't Yonko FM lvl guy. At best he is 4th strongest guy in Yonko crew.

Doffy is easily commander 2 level. Not all commanders are the same strength . and weevil is the second strongest warlord. Not doffy. Try again

 

[Skull Knight]

Doffy is easily commander 2 level. Not all commanders are the same strength . and weevil is the second strongest warlord. Not doffy. Try again

Fine he can be 2nd commander lvl but it doesn't change the fact that Shichibukais ship doesn't have a FM lvl guy n inb4 Weevil can fill FM position then no. That guy is basically a puppet n does what that old women says to him.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Fine he can be 2nd commander lvl but it doesn't change the fact that Shichibukais ship doesn't have a FM lvl guy n inb4 Weevil can fill FM position then no. That guy is basically a puppet n does what that old women says to him.

That doesn’t change his power at all. We’re talking how strong they are.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Yonko full power with all their armies=navy and warlords and their armies. Obviously navy admirals and Mihawk cancel out the yonko themselves and armies cancel each other

 

[Skull Knight]

That doesn’t change his power at all. We’re talking how strong they are.

I seriously doubt Weevil is FM lvl. I believe he is at Doffy's lvl.
I may be wrong but will be confirm when we see or hear the outcome of Weevil vs Marco.

 

[arv993]

Pro-tip: My posts are in written form. When you reply, try reading them, since I never said that the Shichibukai and Marines aren't allied.

The Shichibukai and Marines are meant to create an advantage over the Yonko. If Shichibukai+Marines=Yonko, then it'd be the balance of Two Powers where the Shichibukai and Marines are considered one entity. It's the balance of Three Powers, meaning it's meant to be Shichibukai=Yonko=Marines

All the war with WB proves is that the Shichibukai are meant to be an advantage, not a catch-up. Out of seven intended Warlords, only five were present. One was fighting alongside the Marines in compliance due to having no consciousness. Two of them were dicking around punching well below their pay-grade. One was dispatched by the first competent fighter he challenged, and the fifth was fighting against the Marines. And the Marines SWEPT the Emperor they were fighting. The Emperor side lost two of their best players and had serious injuries to others, while the most damage to a top Marine player didn't even stop him from fighting just as hard as he was before. It was shown that, following WB's death, the WB pirates were turning tail and being gunned down by the Marines.

The reason the Shichibukai aren't equal to the Marines and Yonko despite that being the intention behind them is that the Shichibukai is a failed system.

wow way to compare 1/4th of the yonkos against marines vs schibukai. no shit at that point the schibukai are over kill. There are 3 other yonko and crews out there. the marines use schibukai to even the playing field , that is what garp said its not to get an advantage. they are scared at the thought of two yonkos allying together.

schibukai is a failed system because it is absolutely corrupt and usually abused by the pirates. the fact that the marines rely on pirates for military power shows their inherent disadvantage. they let guys like doffy and croc rule kingdoms, they are having the relationship with schibukai out of necessity not to gain an edge.

pro-tip: read the actual manga and dont go on fan fiction mode. it will do you good.

Why not. Shanks is probably the strongest yonko yet he wasn't deemed worthy of a rival by mihawk due to having only one arm.

7 pirates and their crews seems legit

they have the power to equal one yonko crew at best, not a rival to all yonkos. and by hype its kaido not shanks who is the strongest yonko.

 

[Punk Hazard]

wow way to compare 1/4th of the yonkos against marines vs schibukai.

LMAOOOOO YOU brought up Marineford dude, not me. YOU said MF was proof that the Marines need the Warlords to counter the Yonko.

no shit at that point the schibukai are over kill. There are 3 other yonko and crews out there. the marines use schibukai to even the playing field , that is what garp said its not to get an advantage. they are scared at the thought of two yonkos allying together.

Kizaru was also willing to go intercept two Emperors. They've demonstrated confidence in handling more than one Emperor while lower ranked Marines express panic.

they have the power to equal one yonko crew at best,

The fact that they decimated one Emperor is proof that it's not their best.

 

[arv993]

LMAOOOOO YOU brought up Marineford dude, not me. YOU said MF was proof that the Marines need the Warlords to counter the Yonko.



Kizaru was also willing to go intercept two Emperors. They've demonstrated confidence in handling more than one Emperor while lower ranked Marines express panic.


The fact that they decimated one Emperor is proof that it's not their best.

I literally said they used schibukai and the two forces are allies and mf was proof of it, they use them as a military force.

Kizaru wasn’t going by himself and we have no idea how they were going to deploy marines.kizaru wasn’t gonna 1 v 2 yonko crews we already know kaido is the strongest so him going to enemy turf to fight kaido and crew without sufficient backup is unlikely.

Idk what you’re talking about with the final quote, that was regarding the schibukai

 

[Skull Knight]

Kizaru was also willing to go intercept two Emperors. They've demonstrated confidence in handling more than one Emperor while lower ranked Marines express panic.

WG also sent a fleet just to stop Shanks and we know how that went.
It's the over confidence on there part which showed that a fleet was enough to stop a Yonko.
They learned from there mistake. That's why they summoned all the Shichibukais, Admirals and all VA from different parts of OPverse so that another mishap like that doesn't happen.

And Kizaru obviously won't be going alone as 2Yonkos we're involved. Wait 3Yonkos now as Luffy is seen as 5th emperor lol