NB's View: Religion

[ComplexCity]

Religion is what drives a person crazy, it makes you do retarded things to extreme insane things.

"I believe world was created 6000 years ago, all the study and empirical evidence is a lie"
"Gonna make my kid drink this cow piss because it is good for health"
"We have nothing to eat, lemme grab a Kalashnikov and kill some infidels and explode myself"


Basically religion clouds logical reasoning and human empathy. It drives an individual or whole population crazy.
Today religion is the major thing that keeps population divided and keeps large amount population stupid. The current middle east conflict is all about sunni vs shias.

Miriam Bilyak is religious and has a BS in Neuroscience

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

lol to be fair, atheist do tend to follow a similar belief system. Just not certain what to call it. Most often it's evolution.

Evolution is a scientific theory, not a belief system. And before you say "The Big Bang" no. That's not a belief system either.

Not believing in something is also a belief.

And how do you work that out?

 

[ComplexCity]

Evolution is a scientific theory, not a belief system. And before you say "The Big Bang" no. That's not a belief system either.

That's often used as displayed as being factual. It's funny how people make fun of people of faith but will gladly accept a theory to be fact in believing that it is true (faith)

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

That's often used as displayed as being factual. It's funny how people make fun of people of faith but will gladly accept a theory to be fact in believing that it is true (faith)

That's because to be a scientific theory, something needs to be observed, whereas all faith needs is a presupposed assumption that the thing is true.

 

[ComplexCity]

That's because to be a scientific theory, something needs to be observed, whereas all faith needs is a presupposed assumption that the thing is true.

Did you read anything I said? It doesn't matter what kind of theory it is. It's not a fact. Same thing can be said for scientific theories

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Did you read anything I said? It doesn't matter what kind of theory it is. It's not a fact. Same thing can be said for scientific theories

There is a clear distinction between regular theories and Scientific theories. A scientific theory has to be observed, and evolution has been observed. At no point does a scientific theory become anything else. (Around this point, i would tell you to jump off a cliff because gravity is just a theory, but the argument hasn't gotten that heated yet.)

 

[ComplexCity]

There is a clear distinction between regular theories and Scientific theories. A scientific theory has to be observed, and evolution has been observed. At no point does a scientific theory become anything else. (Around this point, i would tell you to jump off a cliff because gravity is just a theory, but the argument hasn't gotten that heated yet.)

Human evolution (which is the evolution I was referring to) has not been observed. Regardless of the point, how is that relevant? It's still a theory scientific or not

 

[Bored38]

No, Atheism is not a belief system. It's just not believing in a god.

I knew that would get a comment

Fact is you make a choice, that choice is based off of what you believe. Atheist believe by choice,not fact that God doesn't exist,where others believe by choice not fact that God does exist. This really shouldn't even need debating.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Human evolution (which is the evolution I was referring to) has not been observed. Regardless of the point, how is that relevant? It's still a theory scientific or not

It has been observed in fossils. That's all there is too it.

 

[Bored38]

There is a clear distinction between regular theories and Scientific theories. A scientific theory has to be observed, and evolution has been observed. At no point does a scientific theory become anything else. (Around this point, i would tell you to jump off a cliff because gravity is just a theory, but the argument hasn't gotten that heated yet.)

I'm observing science scratch its head while wondering where that dang information encoded in dna came from... Information isn't tangible and doesn't randomly come into existance. Qantum science will prove intelligent design before too long in my op.

 

[ComplexCity]

It has been observed in fossils. That's all there is too it.

Is Evolution a fact yes or no?

 

[Disquiet]

To expound on what others have said, I think people are too distracted by the belief in a higher entity to see religion for what it mostly is. I see it as being highly cultural, and because of this, presume culture would be the prime candidate to replace religions's ups and downs had the latter not existed.

As a kid/teen, if I had brought home some cooked cat or dog from the store, I would have at the very least gotten grounded all the way to heaven . As an adult, if I slept with a pillow that had a provocative anime girl on it, I'd be mocked to hell and back.

We humans don't have much aptitude for absolute indifference toward behaviors, and behavior is all we are. There's many behaviors that I'm sure everyone deems disgusting or weird. If you wouldn't want your kids to learn it, or your family's participation, then it's safe to say you most likely hold some kind of negative view toward it. There is little conflict because one culture isn't trying to force its behaviors on another. Another key detail keeping culture a step away from religion.

Marriage (this includes whether *** takes place before marriage, the justifications for divorce, how old you're allowed to be before you marry etc,), celebrations/holidays, funerals (how the dead is buried), appearance (clothing/grooming), sports, etc. can all be dictated by culture alone. Without any belief in a higher entity or afterlife. As in my own personal case, prohibition of certain food was GREATLY encouraged. As a child, you adopt these beliefs and peconceptions without ever feeling the need to challenge them. It's all just so normal to you. Religion governs a lot of the above mentioned, if not all. Yet an atheist or agnostic can be just as conditioned in all the same categories that religion moderates.

Look at all the attitudes toward "black culture". You hear the complaints all the time, "Just because I'm black doesn't mean I listen to rap, or play and watch basketball." This perception just goes to show how residing in the same country can still produce very large differences among communities. You have people arguing, using whatever statitics, that blacks are more likely to drop out of school because of their mindset or "culture". Certainly such views have nothing to do with religion, yet people are discerning behaviors between different groups of people and fighting over it.

Perhaps the most evident case, is the one where for many years, millions of whites, because of how they were raised, mistreated and even killed many blacks...

You have people who apparently ignorantly bash the entire Indian culture as a result of hearing about just a few events.

Look at how much support Donald Trump is getting after making drastic generalizations (especially about Mexians).

If you believe religion is man made, then it comes down to the following...

Society: Let's think of ways to keep the people and thus the community under control.

Religion: Let's think of ways to keep the people and thus the community under control.

One thing I was able to get a clearer picture of after reading through all those quaran quotes members be posting here on NB, is that both religion and society in general make their rules to either remedy a current problem (or foreseeable one) or gain more control. Granted, society can be more innocent in its influence, all it takes is one celebrity to start some kind of trend, after all.

Whichever it is, the decision always impact the way people behave and interact with one another in their day to day relations.

So yeah, I think we're actually looking at ourselves when we look at religion. The supernatural aspect is just dirt on the mirror.


PS. I'm agnostic

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Is Evolution a fact yes or no?

Evolution is a scientific theory, and it have been observed to occur. Those are facts.

 

[ComplexCity]

Evolution is a scientific theory, and it have been observed to occur. Those are facts.

I asked you if human evolution is a fact, it's a yes or no question

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I asked you if human evolution is a fact, it's a yes or no question

What do you mean by human evolution? What do you mean by "fact"? Because this kind of argument usually ends with someone twisting the definition of a fact.

 

[Bored38]

Evolution is a scientific theory, and it have been observed to occur. Those are facts.

Evolution is a scientific theory that still hasn't proven evolution to be fact and never will. Besides even if it could organisms have to have the dna code for lets say,a wing,if it doesn't have the information it will never grow a wing. Until science answers the "where does the information come from" question, it'll never disprove an intelligent creator. Thats a fact.

 

[ComplexCity]

What do you mean by human evolution? What do you mean by "fact"? Because this kind of argument usually ends with someone twisting the definition of a fact.

:lol

You know exactly what I'm asking not gonna entertain :bdpf:

 

[Dark Sonic]

:lol

You know exactly what I'm asking not gonna entertain :bdpf:

But you keep replying. Just saying.

 

[ComplexCity]

But you keep replying. Just saying.

I knoes I'm done though :bdpf:

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

:lol

You know exactly what I'm asking not gonna entertain :bdpf:

Fine. Human's evolve. Human's share a common ancestor with apes. Human Evolution is a fact. Happy?