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Rohan

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I would say I am just like Kisame. As long as something brings me happiness, I will believe in it even if it could be an illusion.
 

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Religion sucks, but God is a different story.
 

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I believe religion is a tool for mindcontrol. I do believe in God though.
 

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A tool of perpetual stupification.
 

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Religion is a concept primitive man invented to try and explain think they did not understand and comfort, such as meteors, storms and what happens after death.

Do to the absurdity of religion there is a very high chance that almost no one would buy it to the concept of religion as long as they wore not indoctrinated in to it at a very early age. (only a few % of people convert to a religion after the age of adulthood if they grew up without being indoctrinated in to it)

Also, the world would have been a much better place if we had never invented it. (and by it i mean religion)
 
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You need to be more specific, are we talking about Hinduism, christianity, Islam or other 'religions'? Either way I can't say for christianity, Islam since I haven't yet studied their scriptures for myself, as for Hinduism there are still four Vedas, many upanishads, Mahabharata, Gita etc for me to learn sanskrit, study, interpret and develop my own opinion of, which could take years. Currently all I can say is we don't understand it and the word 'religion' is a gross overgeneralization stemming from self-righteousness and aversion towards offending an individual.
 

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Religion is a concept primitive man invented to try and explain think they did not understand and comfort, such as meteors, storms and what happens after death.

Do to the absurdity of religion there is a very high chance that almost no one would buy it to the concept of religion as long as they wore not indoctrinated in to it at a very early age. (only a few % of people convert to a religion after the age of adulthood if they grew up without being indoctrinated in to it)

Also, the world would have been a much better place if we had never invented it. (and by it i mean religion)

I'll go with this.
Religion and "God" were concepts of early people without knowledge of our world, the universe.. or simply -> science.
Another aspect of religion was the believe that people are not alone.
Sad, desperate and lonely people could believe in it to feel better.

If I have children someday, I will keep them away from any religion as far as possible.
 

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I'll go with this.
Religion and "God" were concepts of early people without knowledge of our world, the universe.. or simply -> science.
Another aspect of religion was the believe that people are not alone.
Sad, desperate and lonely people could believe in it to feel better.

If I have children someday, I will keep them away from any religion as far as possible.

What would you do if they became religious of their own accord?
 

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When you have a belief system that is based in faith and unprovable and you use it to judge other ppl, thats a problem. Its the main problem with religion as a whole. That includes Atheism which is also a belief system built on the unprovable.
 
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If they are old enough and did it on their own with research, it's fine. I don't have to agree with them to love them.
But I just don't want that they are influenced by other people.
 

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Religion is not an art, a matter of dexterity and skill, but a new nature.
 

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Your question is very broad and leaves much to be desired. If it's on ethics, then they are human constructed. Religion and political systems are all the same in their tendency to create a notion of idolatry; it's a never-ending cycle. Humanity will always create something for group mechanics; let it be religion or a political system. In fact, religion has a lot of socio-political factors for its implication as well. It's not that different from your average democratic system that talks about full freedom and rights, yet enforces rules for the functioning society.

Rules are always up for debate and subject to alteration. What was acceptable in yesteryears, isn't now ... and what is now, won't be in the future. It's a slow process of change. Everything is subject to change. People simply keep adapting to new in-group mechanics and rules to function smoothly. What functions smoothly for some, won't for others. It's just a dichotomous factor of difference of interests.

For few, God is their answer as they ponder over 'what ifs' after death - the greatest paradoxical mystery in life. For others, God is a myth as it's perpetuated by man. The lack of empirical evidence creates divergence from the norm of the current system ... and that ensues in mayhem.

Personally speaking, I am not against or for religion. I am, in fact, against almost all ideological systems that create an in-group and out-group divide, as they are merely there to create conflict and propagate fanaticism and absolute obedience. This idea of 'absolutes versus obsolete' is why God is even there. An Omniscient and Omnipresent being foresaw all well before he even created anything, as he knows all that there is to know ... which should render hell, a fancy tale of 'correct ones ways', a stuff of tongue-in-cheek, black humor.

Yet, it exists, just like jail cells are a watered down versions of hell on earth. I will laugh at any man who would think that instances of divine punishment and absolute rule and limited freedom in religion were not an endless source of inspiration throughout the ages, and ages to come. People, keep believing that 'freedom' is an actuality; it’s just a hopeless human endeavor.
Anyhow, this is (more or less) my stance on this topic.
 

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I am a quite hardcore Christian, I don't "swear" (at the Italian meaning) even when I'm outside with 20 friends that do it all the time.
Anyway, in my opinion the problem is not the religion, but those who cannot interpret it, as well as those who hate the people who don't share their beliefs or those who make disrespectfully fun of those who have a religion
 

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When you have a belief system that is based in faith and unprovable and you use it to judge other ppl, thats a problem. Its the main problem with religion as a whole. That includes Atheism which is also a belief system built on the unprovable.

No, Atheism is not a belief system. It's just not believing in a god.
 

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everyone has a right to believe what they think is true. As of right now, there is no absolute correct answer we know for certain. So any reasonable rationalization is on the table. Of Course there are people that will debate about what's reasonable and what isn't. and that's all well and good.. but it's not okay to insult or demean others because they hold a different view.
 

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everyone has a right to believe what they think is true. As of right now, there is no absolute correct answer we know for certain. So any reasonable rationalization is on the table. Of Course there are people that will debate about what's reasonable and what isn't. and that's all well and good.. but it's not okay to insult or demean others because they hold a different view.

Huey dat really you?
 
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