[Predictions] Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

it may or may not have been implied that the 3rd coffin was minato. surly we can infer it. i myself believe it was minato. but can't we all agree that there is no way to be SURE that its minato?

The things we discuss on the forum are mostly based on manga facts and assumptions. So there is always at least a 1% chance of being wrong true but in this case 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% of the guys will agree that it was Minato.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Dude when Oro fought Sarutobi at that time there were in total 4 Hokages. Sarutobi himself was the 3rd and Oro summoned 3 coffins among which two were the 1st and 2nd Hokage and Sarutobi stopped the last coffin. So does it takes to be a genius to figure out who was in that coffin

Ask yourself - does it? You have no proof that inside the third coffin was Minato, yet I cannot say without assumption that it wasn't. Therefore, many will always continue to think that it was Minato in the coffin during the battle, yet have no solid proof as to how this is. What is 5 + 5? 10, correct? How is it ten? It just is. You are just drawing a conclusion that could either be true or false - but once again, it cannot go one way or the other because nothing in the manga will tell us so. That's really as far as we can go sticking to the facts.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

The things we discuss on the forum are mostly based on manga facts and assumptions. So there is always at least a 1% chance of being wrong true but in this case 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% of the guys will agree that it was Minato.

Still, there will be that 0.000000001% percent of people that will say the person in the coffin wasn't Minato. What will you do then? You cannot silence or refute them, because you are just as wrong as everyone else. That's all there is to it.

 

[dryman19]

its a use less discussion until u dont have any clue
bcz i would say it may be hasirama senju but if u dont have clue its use less to debate on who was in coffin

 

[narutodrama]

in the 3 coffin was minato also it makes sense that he was, and sarutobi did not stop the coffin you cant stop that jutsu with some shurikens ... the jutsu failed on the 4th becose minato is sealed in the death god orochimaru just couldn't sumon his soul becose that fact and that's why it failed ......

 

[dryman19]

have some oen notice on page 7 a kid standing next to the sarotobi .his dressing is same as sarotbi . what do u think is he a son of sarotobi or a clan memebr of sarotbi

 

[dryman19]

there is another with a scrool on his back n an open scrool on his front

 

[Akatsuki leader]

now i absolutly now that masked man is not madara.... hes like in prison somewhere and escaped... maybe kishimoto masashi arrested in tokyo and write hes own life for us... mixed naruto world ....... ,,,......

 

[BigBen]

1. Something that the frogs mention to naruto when he recieved the key for the seal
2. Can't be the 4th, the 2nd, the 1st or the 3rd. Why? Edo tensei summons someone's soul, and the souls of all the previous hokages are sealed within the death god. 3rd used the death reaper seal to seal away the 1st and the 2nds soul and sealed his in the process as well. The 4th just ended up sealing his own soul within the death reaper seal when he sealed away half of the fox's chakra. So it has to be someone else.
3. Possibly. Naruto will problably learn it. And with Kage Bushin and sage mode...well possibilities are endless aren't they?
4. Well, one can imagine that EMS will give Sasuke some juice to fight against Naruto. And don't forget that unless Naruto complete merges with the nine tails, he is still very weak against Genjutsu, the area were Sharingan users are the strongest.

1. I thought the Key had something to do with the Fox and controlling chakra at least thats what J-man has said ... didn't think it was tied into a jutsu
2. but Oro did summon the 1st and 2nd to fight the thrid and the thrid Was also glad he stoped the thrid one from opening up ... maybe it is not the soul of the person you summon but the body and with it some of the tech's that person had in there lifetime without there common sense or love of the leaf ...
3. Yea the possibilties are endless with that altho he'd be unstopable not even chuck norris could roundhouse him lol haha
4. That is a decent point but from what i gather EMS is simply MS on all the time without the fatigue or blindness ... as for genjutsu it stands to reason Itachi having fought Naruto would now that and thus his Gift is somehting to counter the sharingan and or genjutsu ... i dunno
Guess we have to see how kishi unfolds it everything is all in the air but i think only 2 people could be in a coffin to scare the shit out of Madara ... the 4th who is unstopable unless you are the 4th lol or Madara's true body something like Pain did madara may have control of a fake body working with Zetsu and hides his old ass somewhere cause he became too weak physically to fight

 

[BigBen]

Ask yourself - does it? You have no proof that inside the third coffin was Minato, yet I cannot say without assumption that it wasn't. Therefore, many will always continue to think that it was Minato in the coffin during the battle, yet have no solid proof as to how this is. What is 5 + 5? 10, correct? How is it ten? It just is. You are just drawing a conclusion that could either be true or false - but once again, it cannot go one way or the other because nothing in the manga will tell us so. That's really as far as we can go sticking to the facts.

Since i brought this debate up i think When i read the manga over when he was summoning the coffins in the oro fight it had 1 and 2 on the other coffins and frist and second Hokages poped out and on the third coffin it had "Yon" which i think is 4 so i assumed it was supoose to be the 4th Hokage as to why it failed it could be because of a Death god but i dunno ...

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That was where i got the "proof" from on that one then i assumed since Kabutoro would know that Tech this now "unmarked" coffin maybe the samething as b4 and Madara having fought the 4th would be scared altho Kabutoro said he knew something so i think it maybe that Madara is doing something similar to what pain did and is hiding somewhere due to he is physically to weak but that is a strech to which i have no proof for ...
With logic and reason i figure he summoned the 4th from the Oro battle thats where it came from

 

[maldoror]

The symbols on Naruto manga are pretty straightforward. Few examples are Jiraiya having "Oil" written on his forehead symbolising frogs, all hokages had their respective numbers on their cloaks, gara has "love" which symbolises his issues with love. First coffin had "one" and first hokage came out, second had "two" and second hokage came out, third had "four" and who do you think would come out ? And the context of the fight totally yells "it was fourth". Sure there is a possibility it wasnt 4th, but takes to be a bit overdose sceptic to mention that.

Ps. I rather simply assume it was 4th since every evidence points at that direction. If proven otherwise in the future (very unlikely), its even more fun to get surprised.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Still, there will be that 0.000000001% percent of people that will say the person in the coffin wasn't Minato. What will you do then? You cannot silence or refute them, because you are just as wrong as everyone else. That's all there is to it.

Alright since you are part of that 0.000000000000000000000001% I can't say anything end of topic but still Minato kicked Madara's a$$ cant deny thatxd

 

[danivass]

Alright since you are part of that 0.000000000000000000000001% I can't say anything end of topic but still Minato kicked Madara's a$$ cant deny thatxd

More like that 0.000000001% is a part of him, after all there are a maximum of 6 billion people who read the manga and have an opinion on the coffin thing

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

More like that 0.000000001% is a part of him, after all there are a maximum of 6 billion people who read the manga and have an opinion on the coffin thing

Ya true but am glad that Kishi showed what happened that day showing Minato pawning Madara:flaw: making it clear that Minato was one of the strongest character in the mangaxd.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

The symbols on Naruto manga are pretty straightforward. Few examples are Jiraiya having "Oil" written on his forehead symbolising frogs, all hokages had their respective numbers on their cloaks, gara has "love" which symbolises his issues with love. First coffin had "one" and first hokage came out, second had "two" and second hokage came out, third had "four" and who do you think would come out ? And the context of the fight totally yells "it was fourth". Sure there is a possibility it wasnt 4th, but takes to be a bit overdose sceptic to mention that.

Ps. I rather simply assume it was 4th since every evidence points at that direction. If proven otherwise in the future (very unlikely), its even more fun to get surprised.

Let's just end it at this: no matter how much evidence points to the direction that it was Minato inside the coffin, you cannot prove that it is, and just the same I cannot prove that it isn't.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Alright since you are part of that 0.000000000000000000000001% I can't say anything end of topic but still Minato kicked Madara's a$$ cant deny thatxd

What does that have to do with the current topic? Yes, I admit that Minato defeated Madara, but was that statement really even necessary? If you want to gloat over his victory, do it silently; I already know Madara lost. It's not like I'm going to make demands to have Kishimoto rewrite the manga to suit my preference. Though many here do.

 

[minatoisagod]

People although we can't prove that it was the fourth in the coffin it couldn't have been anyone else. Oro wanted it to be a masters vs student thing and the third was kinda the fourths student since he taught him the death sealing tech and maybe rasengan. And it was a Hokage battle so it had to be him

 

[yondaimeminato]

Ask yourself - does it? You have no proof that inside the third coffin was Minato, yet I cannot say without assumption that it wasn't. Therefore, many will always continue to think that it was Minato in the coffin during the battle, yet have no solid proof as to how this is. What is 5 + 5? 10, correct? How is it ten? It just is. You are just drawing a conclusion that could either be true or false - but once again, it cannot go one way or the other because nothing in the manga will tell us so. That's really as far as we can go sticking to the facts.

well, it's call following the sequence. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, __,

what's the next number that will follow 10? based on the sequence of the numbers we know it's going to be 12.

It's the same with what happened in the fight oro vs the third. He summon first hokage then second hokage after that what follows? The answer is third hokage.

it cannot go one way or the other because nothing in the manga will tell us so

We are not baby readers. Kishi doesn't need to explain everything, kishi expects us to know this much and to follow his story without him having to explain a lot. There are things in manga that do not have solid answers but we can make solid answer as readers from sequence that happened in the manga. They can still be called solid proofs

 

[silenceofthelambs]

well, it's call following the sequence. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, __,

what's the next number that will follow 10? based on the sequence of the numbers we know it's going to be 12.

It's the same with what happened in the fight oro vs the third. He summon first hokage then second hokage after that what follows? The answer is third hokage.

it cannot go one way or the other because nothing in the manga will tell us so

We are not baby readers. Kishi doesn't need to explain everything, kishi expects us to know this much and to follow his story without him having to explain a lot. There are things in manga that do not have solid answers but we can make solid answer as readers from sequence that happened in the manga. They can still be called solid proofs

How is the next number 12? Why is it 12? What is 12? Answer any of these questions for me. We simply take these things for truth because that is what we have been taught, not because it is what is true or correct. Everyone lives life according to their experiences perception of the world; having said that, is anyone's view of the world truly correct?

I never said that any of you were "baby readers," but drawing conclusions without solid proof; that's what called an assumption, or theory (if evidence is used to support statements). Kishimoto is and will not explain everything, but considering he doesn't, the rest he leaves to us, to theorize, speculate, and assume. How can you call something a "solid proof" if it is only based on an opinion, one full of conviction or not? You're trying to prove to me something that might be true, but isn't necessarily so. It might have been Minato in the coffin, it might not have. But you can't choose one conclusion or the other because no evidence will be given to contradict one statement or the other. Tell me, what is there left to prove?

 

[silenceofthelambs]

People although we can't prove that it was the fourth in the coffin it couldn't have been anyone else. Oro wanted it to be a masters vs student thing and the third was kinda the fourths student since he taught him the death sealing tech and maybe rasengan. And it was a Hokage battle so it had to be him

You just said that you can't prove whether it was Minato or not. The next second, you say "it had to be him." Which one do you want us to believe? And Sarutobi was most definitely not Minato's student. There is no proof that Minato taught Sarutobi the Shiki Fuujin - Sarutobi could have learned it himself from the forbidden scroll. And Sarutobi also did not know the Rasengan; that is just plain incorrect. While there is a good chance that it was Minato in the coffin, we don't know 100%. Let's end this argument; you cannot prove that it was Minato inside the coffin; I cannot prove that it wasn't. What more is there left to say?