Madara is not a killer or evil

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You know something else Tobirama said? Go back a couple of chapters and read Tobirama AGREEING WITH MADARA That this world is broken, and the ideals of the previous kages where wrong. GO READ!

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i neither said those kages where right. they where Sniffing damn Bjuus for powers

Yes, correct. So you acutally agree with us, Madara is only trying to change this system of power vs power, and country vs country. In IT non of this will exist.
 

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You know something else Tobirama said? Go back a couple of chapters and read Tobirama AGREEING WITH MADARA That this world is broken, and the ideals of the previous kages where wrong. GO READ!

He also said that madara shouldn't be in charge of something like that :yeah:.
 

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Yes, correct. So you acutally agree with us, Madara is only trying to change this system of power vs power, and country vs country. In IT non of this will exist.

but they where nor Evil.
they have all Come Together and W/ one agreement. and madara is Crossing that fcking line
madara is *evil* Stated by kishi himself. madara saying he enjoys it.

2. he is a Killer.
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The nations were fighting for an ideal that they were defending their nation and it's people. By attempting to get ahead of one another it's almost a level of deterrence.

What Madara is doing is taking a world he doesn't like and is FORCING EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD HE DOESNT LIKE to be mindless and trapped in their dream world. It is not a man's place to play a god.

When the Bijuu were distributed, it was expected to quell the differences but it only escalated them. The three wars over National supremacy aren't any less evil than Madara's. Ideals are only valid, if they do not spark flames of war. It means that these Militia setups were always under the impression that their own arbitrary ethos and dogmas somehow took precedence, hence the cross-border terrorism on other Nations and even against their own people.

All these Villages felt the same. They played god on their own turf through illegal espionage activities, eliminating Ninjas as they saw fit, breaking peace treaties, forming alliances with terrorists to create conflicts just so peace could never truly be achieved or else, the countries would cut back on the Military budgets - Onoki confirmed all of this. One cannot get any more insipid than this.

Madara is simply doing this on a larger scale without the added visage of diplomacy that hid the tatters of the promises these Militia leaders made to one another. Setting up an arbitrary system and forcing people to abide is no different than Eternal Tsukuyomi. All these Ninjas fought for baseless mores that only fueled conflicts even more. Calling all their actions necessary and declaring Madara equal is lopsided hypocrisy, plain and simple.
 

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He also said that madara shouldn't be in charge of something like that :yeah:.

Yes, correct. BUT there is a big BUT here, if not Madara, then who? There has already been 4 wars over power and land, something has to change. And no one, i repeat NO ONE has stepped up, all of the kages are clueless and simpleminded idiots, like Ay. None of them will make a difference in the end, but Madara is at leas trying to fix something that is broken. For only that he deserves cred.
 

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Yes, correct. BUT there is a big BUT here, if not Madara, then who? There has already been 4 wars over power and land, something has to change. And no one, i repeat NO ONE has stepped up, all of the kages are clueless and simpleminded idiots, like Ay. None of them will make a difference in the end, but Madara is at leas trying to fix something that is broken. For only that he deserves cred.
NO ONE should be in charge of others freedom that's slavery.
 

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NO ONE should be in charge of others freedom that's slavery.

they are disgutsing democracy
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if madara wants his dream he can put hmself in it if it annoys the whole world.
 

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NO ONE should be in charge of others freedom that's slavery.

You have a good point, and i agree with you. But unfortunately this is what things have come to, it's either live under "false freedom" (the village system gives false freedom) or abide to IT and live under another form of false freedom, but under this version of false freedom at least everything is peacfull. Get my point? :)
 

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Tobirama said he wanted to use Democracy ... then, Hashirama selected his own brother, Tobirama created a Militia set-up where only a Jounin Council appointed the Hokage, or the previous Hokage did. Then he made all arrangements to keep the other Clan out. Lol Let's take his examples as a matter of fact, considering how he ruined the entire Shinobi system with his political set-up.
 

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The old me would of agreed but no he's a killer he stabbed sasuke in the heart the heart, source of life, madara always have a killing instinct
 

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You have a good point, and i agree with you. But unfortunately this is what things have come to, it's either live under "false freedom" (the village system gives false freedom) or abide to IT and live under another form of false freedom, but under this version of false freedom at least everything is peacfull. Get my point? :)

How are you free if you don't get to think with your own head ?
 

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How are you free if you don't get to think with your own head ?

Do you actually read the post before you reply or just guess what written? Read again, i explicitly use the word false freedom like 4 times! Are you slow or something?
 

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Do you actually read the post before you reply or just guess what written? Read again, i explicitly use the word false freedom like 4 times! Are you slow or something?

Why so mad? I got that,just can't get why you think that 'false freedom' is better.
 

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Nine pages of people trying to justify cold blooded mass slaughter. Nice.
 

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and not the Last and final the killer
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log of ya'll
I said that hes not aiming to kill. Which is true, considering that he said "they are probably not ok". Most probably he knew they they arent dead (Sharingan / Rinnegan can see chakras), but he simply didnt care.
 
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