[VS] Itachi vs Kakashi

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh, my god.

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What is so hard to understand?



Do you really think I give two shits about the time he figures out he's under Genjutsu or how good he is at actually casting Genjutsu? The fact is is that he possesses the two abilities needed to break Genjutsu: great chakra control and great chakra reserves and, even while being superior to Kakashit in both categories he still failed to break it. Kakashi has shown no reason to be able to do something something someone superior to him couldn't.

Itachi's blood is dropping from the left. His blood is dropping from the right. It's that simple.
The fact he possesses both abilities doesn't make him good at breaking genjutsu. Lawd.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol I'm done responding to you. Your reading comrehension is on par with that of a gnat.

Feeling is mutual.
Kakashi tricking him in both occasions was outside of itachi's control. He openly admits it both times yet u wanna nit pick. I'm glad your stopping.

 

[LustyLover]

I'm merely breaking down to you that his chakra control was never "always great" hence why he in Jiraiya were in the "we suck at genjutsu" club.

Well, the version of Naruto I'm talking about actually is great at chakra control. Even part one Naruto is, though that can't compare to part two which is why I called out your comparison. Naruto has shown to be the only person able to make multiple Kage Bunshin. He literally made a thousand clones that evenly distributed his chakra in part one and in part two he's even more competent. That shows chakra control.

Again, sucking at using Genjutsu isn't the same at sucking at breaking Genjutsu.

You assumed that if someone with Bijuu level chakras could not muster up enough power break 30% Itachi Genjutsu then Kakashi won't. Then by this logic Naruto must have lower chakra than 30% Itachi since he didn't have enough power to break out of it. See where this is taking you? More power in this case does not mean more chakra because if it was Naruto would have broken it no difficulty.

I already explained this. Naruto released his chakra, a chakra that is of both a higher quantity and quality than Kakashi's, and still failed to break it. Kakashi has no feats breaking a Genjutsu of Itachi's caliber or feats of controlling his chakra better than Naruto. Until you show me some actual feats of him countering high ranking Genjutsu on Itachi's level then he's falling prey to it. Simple as that.

Exactly. So why are you insinuating Itachi traps Kakashi in Genjutsu? Now you're just stumbling over yourself.

Obviously you're misunderstanding. I said the SAME eyes, as in literally possessing the same eyes. Obito gave Kakashi his own MS so trying to cast Genjutsu on someone with your own eye isn't working. Try to keep up short bus.

 

[LustyLover]

Feeling is mutual.
Kakashi tricking him in both occasions was outside of itachi's control. He openly admits it both times yet u wanna nit pick. I'm glad your stopping.

This is a 1v1 where he's trying, not a 4v1 where he's not. Gain some actual understanding before you reply next time.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

This is a 1v1 where he's trying, not a 4v1 where he's not. Gain some actual understanding before you reply next time.

No I'm talking about the 2v3 were he did try and still got tricked, ended up having to pull out ms.
But hay u should be done replying.

 

[LustyLover]

No I'm talking about the 2v3 were he did try and still got tricked, ended up having to pull out ms.
But hay u should be done replying.

I read that chapter and Kakashi hadn't confused him with any clone feints. The best his clones did was deal with Itachi's, nothing else. Show me where he confused Itachi with clones because I fail to see where he did.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I read that chapter and Kakashi hadn't confused him with any clone feints. The best his clones did was deal with Itachi's, nothing else. Show me where he confused Itachi with clones because I fail to see where he did.

If kakashi didn't confuse him (like kisame openly admits) he wouldn't have gained the chance to save kuranai.

But bro y u still replying?

 

[LustyLover]

If kakashi didn't confuse him (like kisame openly admits) he wouldn't have gained the chance to save kuranai.

Kisame never admitted Itachi was surprised. Show me a scan stating so.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Can someone explain how Kakashi counters

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? Because if my memory serves correct, Kakashi doesn't have any affilation with snakes.

 

[LuckyMan]

I already explained this. Naruto released his chakra, a chakra that is of both a higher quantity and quality than Kakashi's, and still failed to break it. Kakashi has no feats breaking a Genjutsu of Itachi's caliber or feats of controlling his chakra better than Naruto. Until you show me some actual feats of him countering high ranking Genjutsu on Itachi's level then he's falling prey to it. Simple as that.

So are you saying that Itachis chakra is both a higher quantity and quality than Naruto's because Naruto couldn't break it? I see you're dancing around my point and grasping for straws now.

Obviously you're misunderstanding. I said the SAME eyes, as in literally possessing the same eyes. Obito gave Kakashi his own MS so trying to cast Genjutsu on someone with your own eye isn't working. Try to keep up short bus.

Thats funny because I remember Itachi casting Genjutsu on Sasuke and it didn't work either, and they had different eyes. Damn man I want to stop this but something wants me to keep this going. xd You've already stumbled over several points you made and the ones that get debunked you claim "no I wasn't talking about that, I meant this!"

Hold this L tonight lil nicca

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[LustyLover]

Can someone explain how Kakashi counters

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? Because if my memory serves correct, Kakashi doesn't have any affilation with snakes.

Lol "Kage Bunshin no jutsu", "Kakashi replaces himself with a wooden log", etc, lmao. It's the universal counter to everything when people have nothing else to come up with.

 

[LustyLover]

So are you saying that Itachis chakra is both a higher quantity and quality than Naruto's because Naruto couldn't break it? I see you're dancing around my point and grasping for straws now.

I see you're still dancing around the fact that you have no feats to show. How unfortunate. And anyways, why would it be so surprising that Itachi has a better quality of chakra? Tobirama stated the chakra that spouts in an Uchiha's brain is SPECIAL. It's not like any ordinary chakra, so the chakra used isn't going to be easy to break regardless of any amount. The Uchiha were stated to have unrivaled chakra, after all. They're the ones that have had it since birth; they're direct descendants of Indra and therefore Hagoromo as well. More quantity just increases your chances. You're seriously not getting it.

Thats funny because I remember Itachi casting Genjutsu on Sasuke and it didn't work either, and they had different eyes. Damn man I want to stop this but something wants me to keep this going. xd You've already stumbled over several points you made and the ones that get debunked you claim "no I wasn't talking about that, I meant this!"

Lol are you serious? It was canonically stated that Itachi set up every aspect of that fight. Itachi let him escape.

Hold this L tonight lil nicca

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Hold what? Your arguments don't even hold any weight. You've shown me nothing proving Kakashi can break Itachi's Genjutsu. Come to me with proof. You can show me little negros doing a marathon. Your point is still invalid.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Can someone explain how Kakashi counters

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? Because if my memory serves correct, Kakashi doesn't have any affilation with snakes.

How Kakashi counters clones? R u serious dawg? Didn't early part 2 kakashi put 30% itachi in that very exact situation? If anything I should be asking how itachi counters it.

 

[LustyLover]

How Kakashi counters clones? R u serious dawg? Didn't early part 2 kakashi put 30% itachi in that very exact situation? If anything I should be asking how itachi counters it.

The log out button's to your right.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kisame never admitted Itachi was surprised. Show me a scan stating so.

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Exclamation mark says it all. Had he not been surprised there wouldn't be one there.
Thank you check please.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The log out button's to your right.

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Kakashi puts itachi's clone in the same position itachi put sasuke in. Since you know where the button is kindly log yourself out cuz your arguments at this point in time have been reduced to pointless banter and name calling.

 

[LustyLover]

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Exclamation mark says it all. Had he not been surprised there wouldn't be one there.
Thank you check please.

An exclamation mark doesn't just express surprise and I don't care whether or not it was. Itachi saw it before it could do anything of worth. The same happens here.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

An exclamation mark doesn't just express surprise and I don't care whether or not it was. Itachi saw it before it could do anything of worth. The same happens here.

In comic books and comics in general, a large exclamation point is often used near or over a character's head to indicate surprise.

taken from Wikipedia. Now log the fck off.

 

[LustyLover]

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Kakashi puts itachi's clone in the same position itachi put sasuke in. Since you know where the button is kindly log yourself out cuz your arguments at this point in time have been reduced to pointless banter and name calling.

Do I need to keep on repeating myself? Naruto, Sakura, and Chiyo were all there to distract him; he wasn't there to win, the way he fights is going to reflect that; he was on their side so I don't see why he would either way.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

How Kakashi counters clones? R u serious dawg? Didn't early part 2 kakashi put 30% itachi in that very exact situation? If anything I should be asking how itachi counters it.

Oh, you mean the same Itachi who wasn't even trying, even while at 30%, and literally stood still.
Itachi and Kakashi are equal in Taijutsu, yes? Well then we have Itachi who is able to weave signs whilst in direct combat without his opponents even knowing. Now I still see no possible way that Kakashi counters that.