Is Tobirama really powerful or not?

[lol99]

Re: tobirama is fodder

i dont know why people have developed a sudden obsession with tobirama, kishi doesn't care to show him, why should anybody else care for him

 

[SSW Imp]

Re: tobirama is fodder

Kisame has nothing to do with this thread, and yet you throw out your baseless opinion as if it's fact, and you added nothing to the conversation, all you wanted to say is Kisame>Tobirama. Fanwhoring and hating at the same time.

AND, What does that accomplish by calling me a hater. You get a little happy and start jumping around. Your really cool bashing people for having an opinion. People are saying Tobirama>SO6P, but we all know that has nothing to do with the thread does it. Its ok to state your opinion, that's why this a discussion. Its not a discussion if nobody is giving a counter argument and everybody just agrees. What is the discussion in that?

 

[Retsu]

Re: tobirama is fodder

AND, What does that accomplish by calling me a hater. You get a little happy and start jumping around. Your really cool bashing people for having an opinion. People are saying Tobirama>SO6P, but we all know that has nothing to do with the thread does it. Its ok to state your opinion, that's why this a discussion. Its not a discussion if nobody is giving a counter argument and everybody just agrees. What is the discussion in that?

saying, "Kisame solos low difficulty" is not anything to discuss, just stop trying to throw rocks and hide your hand, all you do is doubt or downtalk him, plz don't act like you came in hear for an honest discussion, or give an honest opinion. You just saw tobirama in the thread title and already had your little mind made up to diss tobirama, you'd do it any chance you get ever since I saw you in that 1 thread, don't deny.

 

[Senpai1507]

Re: tobirama is fodder

tobirama rules!!!

 

[SSW Imp]

Re: tobirama is fodder

saying, "Kisame solos low difficulty" is not anything to discuss, just stop trying to throw rocks and hide your hand, all you do is doubt or downtalk him, plz don't act like you came in hear for an honest discussion, or give an honest opinion. You just saw tobirama in the thread title and already had your little mind made up to diss tobirama, you'd do it any chance you get ever since I saw you in that 1 thread, don't deny.

You act like I dislike Tobirama which is a misunderstanding. I just don't like the fact that everyone if making a big deal out of nothing. Its all hype and I don't have any factual basis to go off of. And If it is my opinion why do you have any problem. Worry about your own sad little life, and go to a movie or something. That might help whatever hurt is inside of you. And you keep bringing up "that one thread", While it is true that I disagreed that does not mean that I am searching around for Tobirama threads. What would that accomplish for me. I go out and treat myself to ice cream because I participated in a thread.

 

[minatofan234]

this kind of stuff pisses me off first of all the silver/gold brother sneaked attacked tobirama meaning they had the element of suprise and almost killed him meaning tobirama deafeted both of them, and he sacrificed him self to let his teammates escape so he had to fight the entire kinkaku force and all of them were elite ninja among the hidden cloud ninja and the gold/silver brothers were in that team so i say he was pretty powerfull and remember the gold/silver brothers had the sage's weapons and they can turn to little jinchuriki with up to 6 tails each

 

[juankimari]

Re: tobirama is fodder

he had edo tensei, s/t, and was the best waterstyle user in the world, he could use the water dragon bullet tech with only one hand seal, anyone else has to use 44, and he was stated to be on almost equal terms with his bro, Tobirama not only has potential to be top 5, he has potential to be one of the strongest kage period.

Exactly, in fact if he was elected Hokage at Hashirama`s time he must have been a beast because they lived at a time of great conflict and war, meaning there were many strong capable shinobi product of the necessity to survive and rule over the other nations.

Just because Tobirama hasn`t been shown too much DOES NOT mean he was weak or a fodder, there`s far more evidence the pointing the opposite actually.Creator of Edo Tensei,Best water style user ever,S/T justsu, Second Leader of The only clan the Uchiha could never defeat.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

of course he was powerful. he was ambushed by them when they had the tools of the sage and beast mode thats alot of power and yet he still survived despite being left almost dead. then when he finally did die it was against 20 elite ninja who were either being led by the bros or trained extensively by them. anyone who believes tobirama wasnt powerful is talking out of their ass.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

well he was a hokage so he had to be powerful.

 

[Baka Sennin]

let's put it this way. jiraiya lost to the 4-tails, orochimaru would have been killed if he prolonged his battle against the 6 tails, and they're top 20 shinobi. tobirama faced two 6-tails, who also had the sage's weapons, and attacked in a surprise attack. that he didn't die and made apparently a full recovery is a feat in itself.

darui did defeat one of the two true, but a. he had intel. b. he had backup. c. he was kind of lucky d.ino-shika-cho did most of the work on the second one. and darui is no slouch.

that said, hashirama and madara were definitely stronger than him, and i believe hiruzen and minato were to

 

[sploopsies]

He went up against 2 pseudo jinchuriki's who are insanely powerful shinobi, plus 18 other shinobi's. Don't forget that they also had the tools of the sage.

 

[Wang]

Tobirama was Hokage, of course he was powerful.

 

[3MESSIAH]

his swag power level is the highest so of course...

 

[madarasasuke5]

He is power guys come on 4 a hokage of dat level who created da edo-tensi/create water 4fm an insemely impossible angle i.e thin air.guys give him ur respect.

 

[Omnipotent]

Re: tobirama is fodder

Don't even worry about him, he's mad because in 1 thread a few weeks back there was an argument over whether kisame was a better water user than tobirama, as you can see his butt is still sore from tobirama winning the poll, and now he goes into all the topics featuring tobirama just to downtalk him, god his life must suck.

That was my thread I believe

 

[zinescience]

from ur point of view i will say he is weak.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: tobirama is fodder

Another Tobirama hater.

I'm not a hater. I just came across this page to share with everyone which also changed my opinion of him. I never said he was weak as shit or a fodder, I just said wouldn't losing to Kinkaku and Ginkaku make him weaker than the hype we give him? I also said that I don't know how powerful people consider the gold and silver bro, but I've never seen them in a top 10 list ever either. In a recent thread of mine I even had Tobirama in top 10.

 

[So6p10tails666]

please read before posting, i'm not hating on tobirama and i even considered him a top 10. However after seeing this page it somewhat changed my mind. So stop saying i'm trolling.

i was re-watching naruto and i came across an episode where shikamaru said that kinkaku was the one killed tobirama. In the manga, it says kinkaku just defeated him, but i suppose it's same thing since he lost to kinkaku or gold/silver bro.

I'm not sure on what consensus is here on nb on how powerful kinkaku and ginkaku were, but considering that even though darui and a few others had much trouble, they still managed to defeat them by using their own tools. Darui was also able to chop off their arms and fatally wound them as edo's before they even went into the tailed mode.

Many people theorize that he was near hashi's level and also one of the top 10, but it would seem that it is not the case since most likely all top 10 characters could defeat the gold and silver bro with mid difficulty.

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what do you guys think?

in the manga it states that they were surrounded by 20 kumo ninja knkkaku tracking force its in the chapter about danzo when sasuke is about to kill him and he has a flash back about him bieng chased and then bumps into hiruzen sarutobi who saves him and they end up runnig into the second hokage and a hand full of ninja the second stated that they were surrounded by 20 kumo ninja (kinkkaku tracking ) unit the second told them to run and that sarutobi was hokage as of the next day and he said to teach the will of fire to the future generation of shinobi
so he took on 19 kumo ninja and kinkkaku it was said in the manga the gold and silver bros killed tobirama and the 2nd raikage too... i believe tobirama was strong he was a senju and bother to hashirama thats why he was 2nd hokage

 

[MASTER SASUKE]

Re: tobirama is fodder

Tobirama is fodder to lord sasuke

 

[Boskarta]

I don't get why so many people say Tobirama is weak because he's featless(which he isn't)

We've not seen the SO6P do anything AKA he is featless, is he weak too? Lol, no.


Kinkaku and Ginkaku are hardly weaklings, Darui only won because he used the SO6P's weapons, without them he'd have lost pretty badly if they both transformed or just one.
I call it plot that they were beat so easy, shadow possession should hardly have worked on him since even Hidan could resist it and he's leagues behind Kinkaku/Ginkaku.


Fighting 20 elite ninja would be a major challenge the only person who's done better than that is the 3rd Raikage.


Darui is an elite ninja so 20 elite ninja's = 20 Darui's(not exactly obviously) meaning Tobirama essentially held off 20 Darui's, and yet he's weak? I'm sorry but there's just no logic there...