Is Tobirama really powerful or not?

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he was good but not even on hashi level
 

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He has to be strong.
-He was the 2nd Hokage and kept the Uchiha in check
-He was the 2nd strongest Senju
-As far as we know he was the first ninja to use S/T Jutsu
-He created Edo Tensei

I mean come on it only makes sense he is poowerful
 

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Shikamaru wasn't quite right anyway, Tobirama came out of the battle alive, and it was the Second Raikage that didn't. Bare with me, because I wanna check the raw for this chapter to make sure it wasn't mistranslated.
 
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Yeah but Oro and Obito(with the kyuubi) ambushed the Kage's and both Oro and Tobi are miles ahead of Kinkaku/Ginkaku which would justify Hiruzen and Minato dying. But if the 2nd was as powerful as Hiruzen, then even if they ambushed him(not he also had the 2nd raikage to help) then they would have still defeated them.

The details of surprise attack are completly unknown. On top of that the 3rd and 4th hokages weren't surprised directly one on one persay. The village was surprised attacked. And tobi didn't attack minato he just held naruto ransom
 

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Of course he was powerful you can't be leader of a village if you're fking weak and plus didn't he create S/T ninjutsu? And he was so skilled with water techniques he could use them without any water around, the dude could pull water out of the freaking air if that doesn't make some one powerful then idk what does. And another thing when he was about to die by only placing two fingers on the ground he was able to tell how many enemies were there, all of their locations, AND which village they were from. He's beast
 

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He was a Hokage so he was obviously powerful, only a fool who can't interpret the manga correctly would say otherwise
 

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I think hes pretty strong but I doubt were going to see more of him.
 

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Weakest kage.
He got left on the brink of death by Kin/Gin bros (stayed alive due to senju DNA)
and then lost to 20 fodders
 

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Weakest kage.
He got left on the brink of death by Kin/Gin bros (stayed alive due to senju DNA)
and then lost to 20 fodders

Trolling. Kinkaku and Ginkaku weren't weak anyway, they had all of RS tools + Kyuubi chakra. To be able to kill one Kage and strip down another, they were two strong shinobi. And they weren't twenty fodder, they were master bounty hunters from Kumogakure.

Oh, the scanlation you found was a bit sketchy. I can't exactly word it but 'defeat' certainly isn't the best translation, 'nearly overcame' would be better.
 
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He was powerful alright, and the reason why Darui and the others defeated them was because they had info on their abilities, weapons included.
 

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dude tobirama is so underrated just because we have not seen him fighting, i hope kishimoto either shows a flashback or have sasuke and orochimaru revive the hokages with that scroll from the death reapers stomach temporary so we can see them fight ... maybe fight madara and obito
 

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Re: tobirama is fodder

Tobirama fought Gin and Kin and about 18-20 other skilled shinobi that were apart of an elite group. He took all of them on so that Hiruzen and the others could survive. Darui had 100s of shinobi helping him. Remember the earth and water style ninja helped him plus his 2 comrads and others.
 

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dude tobirama is so underrated just because we have not seen him fighting, i hope kishimoto either shows a flashback or have sasuke and orochimaru revive the hokages with that scroll from the death reapers stomach temporary so we can see them fight ... maybe fight madara and obito

I hope so, I'd really like to see what all the kages are truly capable of, and not just the hokages.
 

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yes tobirama is powerful. =] just believe it. it's what manga say just merely saying kage.

=]

just believe it.
 

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He has to be strong.
-He was the 2nd Hokage and kept the Uchiha in check
-He was the 2nd strongest Senju
-As far as we know he was the first ninja to use S/T Jutsu
-He created Edo Tensei

I mean come on it only makes sense he is poowerful

Proof?

On: He was strong.
 

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the thing people fail to see is that the gold and silver brothers are two strong persons.
tobirama wasn't killed during their battle and he wasn't sealed either ( which makes tobirama pretty good because kin/gin were specialized in sealing people )
if he was weak he wouldn't we a hokage.
it was stated ( I don't know where and by who ) that he was able to stop madara's fire style with his water techs.
he could do water techs with no water in the area instead he got his water out of the air , which kisame couldn't do ( kisame had special justsu to spit out water and people consider him the strongest water tech user.
tobirama could use water techs with less hand seals than a normal person had to do.
he could use space/time ninjutsu ( we don't know anything about his space/time ninjutsu but if you think about it everyone with space/time ninjutsu is weak \sarcasm/ )
he learned minato space/time ninjutsu ( is stated somewhere in the manga )
he made the most brutal forbidden tech ( impure world resurection aka : edo tensei ) even if it wasn't complete he created it , if it wasn't created it orochimaru couldn't have upgraded tobirama's version and the fourth ninja world war wouldn't have been much of a big deal since edo tensei is the most important jutsu used during the war.

for now i'm done \(^_^)/
 

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he was tired, but he fought a 27 superb jounin level shinobi squad, and the silver/gold brothers! and don't forget, they had the power of Kurama!
so yeah, Tobirama was strong, i can say he is even stronger than minato and the 3 legendary sannin!
 
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