Is shisui>hashirama?

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Owarij

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As Owarij said: "with the idea planting, the person still has a choice to do it or not.. but the idea is there..."

You take my words out of context.... I was commenting on whoever said he "just puts ideas" into the persons head...If it was only ideas , then the person could choose to do it , But its not only ideas, it's memories, commands etc, full control over the victim.


Yes, and then the part you bolded was Owarij talking about how the idea works in Inception. He then says that Shisui's KA is deeper than that, and then says how he thinks KA works which is the stuff you didn't bold.

Oh didn't see you explained it already, thx

back to my movie
 

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current Tobi > Hashirama

current Sasuke > Hashirama

current Madara > Hashirama

current Kabuto > Hashirama

Shisui > Hashirama

current Naruto > Hashirama

comeatme.

let me add if you guys agree on shisui winning then itachi would to because he has it.
 
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When you can collect facts and put it all together, you can come with valid conclusions. that is what i have done.

Hashi has no idea that shisui has KA. Hashi will be one shotted easy.
Oh... just like you know all of Hashirama's abilities... and how Hashirama didn't know anything about the Uchiha. U_U

current Tobi > Hashirama

current Sasuke > Hashirama

current Madara > Hashirama

current Kabuto > Hashirama

Shisui > Hashirama

current Naruto > Hashirama

comeatme.

let me add if you guys agree on shisui winning then itachi would to because he has it.
Ok...?
 

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We havn't seen much of KA. But remember every jutsu has a weakness. I don't think Shisui can beat Hashirama just because he have KA.
Itachi has Yata Mirror (an unbreakable shield) and Toksuka sword (a sword that can seal) ..and that doesn't mean he can solo everyone. But if we havn't seen much of Yata mirro and Toksuka sword, and only heard that ''Yata mirror can block everything'' and ''Toksuka sword can seal everything", most of the ppl will say Itachi unbeatable but he is not.
 

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We havn't seen much of KA. But remember every jutsu has a weakness. I don't think Shisui can beat Hashirama just because he have KA.
Itachi has Yata Mirror (an unbreakable shield) and Toksuka sword (a sword that can seal) ..and that doesn't mean he can solo everyone. But if we havn't seen much of Yata mirro and Toksuka sword, and only heard that ''Yata mirror can block everything'' and ''Toksuka sword can seal everything", most of the ppl will say Itachi unbeatable but he is not.
KA can make you suicide, without questioning your own motives.
 
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