Is Sasuke the best character in the manga?[Poll]

[Dannie]

Moron, that proves nothing. He lost rin & it made him bitter, it's an established fact that when a uchiha who knows love loses it they become unstable, [

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] still not the sole reason he started wanted to initiate his plan. He did it so that the world wouldn't have to suffer what he experienced. At least his logic & reasoning was more realistic & made more sense than sasuke's.

Sasuke lost his brother & tried to murder a hokage who wasn't even directly responsible for it, then wanted to destroy the village he died trying to protect.

Dat sauce, logic must be his middle name.

lel, did I make you pissed? You started the sentence off with 'moron' so I must have pushed a button Lol

It doesn't matter how you sugarcoat it fanboy, Anything that comes out of Obito's mouth involves Rin. Even when he died he was glad to meet Rin in the afterlife.

Don't be in denial. Just accept it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Moron, that proves nothing. He lost rin & it made him bitter, it's an established fact that when a uchiha who knows love loses it they become unstable, [

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] still not the sole reason he started wanted to initiate his plan. He did it so that the world wouldn't have to suffer what he experienced. At least his logic & reasoning was more realistic & made more sense than sasuke's.

Sasuke lost his brother & tried to murder a hokage who wasn't even directly responsible for it, then wanted to destroy the village he died trying to protect.

Dat sauce, logic must be his middle name.

*Uses cerebral chakra-induced instability to justify Obito's actions*
*Criticizes Sasuke's actions that were caused by the same thing*

 

[take it easy]

Tell me, what do you consider a realistic mindset a response to:
1. Finding the corpses of your entire family at 7 years old
2. Forced to see the events that caused these corpses for at least a day repeatedly, again while 7 years old, as a form of torture

Kakashi saw:

His father death as 5 years old kid

His teammates death in front of him as 13 years old kid... Still has realistic mindset

3. Completely alone for most of your life because you're psychologically unable to maintain and create close bonds

1. He said that Naruto was his closest friend at VOtE

2. He said that only his close bonds with Naruto could interfere his revolution

4. Forced to endure the torture again, this time for three days while your mind is damaged further

5. Killing your brother who you once loved, who is the cause of all the previous events, then finding out he did love you and did it for your sake

Ok. These points look more or less like legit reason for his madness.

 

[MinaButt]

Moron, that proves nothing. He lost rin & it made him bitter, it's an established fact that when a uchiha who knows love loses it they become unstable, [

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] still not the sole reason he started wanted to initiate his plan. He did it so that the world wouldn't have to suffer what he experienced. At least his logic & reasoning was more realistic & made more sense than sasuke's.

Sasuke lost his brother & tried to murder a hokage who wasn't even directly responsible for it, then wanted to destroy the village he died trying to protect.

Dat sauce, logic must be his middle name.

If you think about it Sasuke was more justified than Obito to go down the path of darkness. Sasuke lost his entire family, Obito lost his crush. Also thats a double standard to use the Uchiha brain thing for Obito but not Sasuke. Both of them are uchiha. :|

 

[Draphsin]

Obito isn't really that much of a great character. When he became the juubi jin it was just a waste of time for us(at least from the people who aren't much on his side) Even when he was talked by naruto, what was on obito's mind? Rin.

What's constantly on sasuke's mind? Itachi?

I hardly see the difference, obito was acting for his believed "greater good" while sasuke was pulling a madara & attacking people for no reason other than to satisfy his hatred or try to prove to himself that he isn't naruto's BFF anymore [still is].

You're looking at the small picture, think of the message, rin was like madara's izuna, sasuke's itachi, naruto's neji, etc. She represented the things that one holds dear & once you lose those things it's just as easy to fall down the wrong path. Obito represented what naruto would've been had he suffered through the same events, obito's overarching goal was to prevent this from ever happening & the internal struggle between him & naruto was to determine which of the two paths was ideal [naruto's obviously is].

Obito's character is so much bigger than "rin", seriously only haters, children, virgins, or people who've probably been rejected in a similar manner to how obito was are the only ones who actually complain about her & take away from obito's character because of it.

*Uses cerebral chakra-induced instability to justify Obito's actions*
*Criticizes Sasuke's actions that were caused by the same thing*

Obito had logic behind his actions, sasuke didn't. Please the point wasn't that hard to see.

If you think about it Sasuke was more justified than Obito to go down the path of darkness. Sasuke lost his entire family, Obito lost his crush.

Makes absolutely no difference, once a uchiha who knows love loses it they change, regardless of the loss.

Also thats a double standard to use the Uchiha brain thing for Obito but not Sasuke. Both of them are uchiha. :|

Again I never once compared the change, I know sasuke went crazy, doesn't justify the poor logic he used while obito still maintained his.

 

[NukaCola]

The best in what?

 

[Im Still Robin]

Dude this thread is over lol...Minato didn't get a single vote

While he is my favorite I treat him equally, which some fans can't do with their fav

Sasuke takes this, even all his fights are better than that of the main character and any other character in this series.

 

[Draphsin]

lel, did I make you pissed? You started the sentence off with 'moron' so I must have pushed a button Lol

Lol Calling you a moron means I'm pissed now? Okay believe what you want I guess.

It doesn't matter how you sugarcoat it fanboy, Anything that comes out of Obito's mouth involves Rin. Even when he died he was glad to meet Rin in the afterlife.

Stop whining, everything that came out of sasuke's mouth was "neee-san", your point is invalid.

Don't be in denial. Just accept it.

Yawn, you're boring me.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kakashi saw:

His father death as 5 years old kid

His teammates death in front of him as 13 years old kid... Still has realistic mindset



1. He said that Naruto was his closest friend at VOtE

2. He said that only his close bonds with Naruto could interfere his revolution

Ok. These points look more or less like legit reason for his madness.

1. What Kakashi went through is no where near what Sasuke went through. Kakashi saw two people die, Sasuke saw his entire family die through mental torture twice, then had ¨reality¨ change multiple times.

2. Yes, Naruto was his closest friend because his friends were him and Sakura. However, notice I also said that Sasuke was psychologically unable to maintain bonds as well; just as quickly as those bonds form, Sasuke felt like he had to sever them due to a common defense mechanism.

What's constantly on sasuke's mind? Itachi?

I hardly see the difference, obito was acting for his believed "greater good" while sasuke was pulling a madara & attacking people for no reason other than to satisfy his hatred or try to prove to himself that he isn't naruto's BFF anymore [still is].

You're looking at the small picture, think of the message, rin was like madara's izuna, sasuke's itachi, naruto's neji, etc. She represented the things that one holds dear & once you lose those things it's just as easy to fall down the wrong path. Obito represented what naruto would've been had he suffered through the same events, obito's overarcing goal was to prevent this from ever happening & the internal struggle between him & naruto was to determine which of the two paths was ideal [naruto's obviously is].

Obito's character is so much more bigger than "rin", seriously only haters, children, virgins, or people who've probably been rejected in a similar manner to how obito was are the only ones who actually complain about her & take away from obito's character because of it.



Obito had logic behind his actions, sasuke didn't. Please the point wasn't that hard to see.



Makes absolutely no difference, once a uchiha who knows love loses it they change, regardless of the loss.



Again I never once compared the change, I know sasuke went crazy, doesn't justify the poor logic he used while obito still maintained his.

Sasuke didn't have logic behind his actions? Sasuke's goal after Itachi consisted of two things:
1. Killing the Elders and Danzo
2. Destroying the village

Sasuke wanted to kill the Elders and Danzo because they were the ones that decided Itachi would receive the order of killing the Uchiha and he was on the Uchiha clan's side at the time. The logic in that should be easy to see.

Sasuke wanted to destroy the village because the village used Itachi, they didn't know it which is what made Sasuke's views skewed. Sasuke essentially wanted them to know the pain they caused him, his clan and Itachi by selfishly sacrificing the latter two. It was like a punishment.

 

[ultraChalk]

Poll proves that all Naruto fans (including me) were closet Swagsuke fans the whole manga.

 

[Dannie]

Obito had logic behind his actions, sasuke didn't. Please the point wasn't that hard to see.

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Obito had logic behind his actions?????? Is this supposed to be fap logic 101? lml You can't be serious.

Was it logical for Obito to summon the Kyubi on the leaf and kill many civilians and ninja?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly kill Naruto's parents?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly cause Naruto's life hell and make him be cast away by his own village?
Was it logical for Obito to hire 10+ s ranked monsters and criminals to hunt Jinchuriki and kill them for his own selfish reasons?
Was it logical for Obito to start a war and kill over half the SA just to start a dream where everyone can live under his rule in so called "peace?"
Was it logical for Obito to cause the death of one of Naruto's closest friends just just to toy with his emotions in a war?

You want to compare all of this mess to Sasuke's actions and call it "logical" all because you fail to see Sasuke's character and fap to Obito 24/7? That's laughable.

Sasuke left the village when he was 12/13 years old just to get power from Orochimaru. Was he harming anyone? No
Sasuke killed Orochimaru because he didn't like his methods. Did that cause a problem for anyone? No.
Sasuke killed Deidara and caused the death of Itachi just as Itachi wished. Did that cause a problem for anyone? Yes? Who? Sasuke Uchiha.
You want to whine about Sasuke turning up the ay he did after his brothers sacrifice and secret behind his brothers true actions because it didn't go the way you want. You act as if Sasuke is supposed to look at this moment as if nothing happened? Your reading comprehension and your understanding for Sasuke is pathetic, but it is no surprise since you seem to have your hand up Obito's ass all the time so it makes you clueless to other developed characters outside of Obito.

Sasuke attacking Bee and wanting to execute the kages were the only actions that Sasuke did that were illogical but when it came to executing the kages, it was just a reason for Naruto and Sasuke to have their final fight. As much as you people wanted to have them fight, it' quite funny how you complain after Sasuke starts to initiate it.

So yes, please do tell me what exactly was so "logical" about more than half the shit that Obito did? Just do that for one minute. Take your fapping goggles off, and for one measly minute explain how Obito's actions were logical.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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Obito had logic behind his actions?????? Is this supposed to be fap logic 101? lml You can't be serious.

Was it logical for Obito to summon the Kyubi on the leaf and kill many civilians and ninja?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly kill Naruto's parents?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly cause Naruto's life hell and make him be cast away by his own village?
Was it logical for Obito to hire 10+ s ranked monsters and criminals to hunt Jinchuriki and kill them for his own selfish reasons?
Was it logical for Obito to start a war and kill over half the SA just to start a dream where everyone can live under his rule in so called "peace?"
Was it logical for Obito to cause the death of one of Naruto's closest friends just just to toy with his emotions in a war?

You want to compare all of this mess to Sasuke's actions and call it "logical" all because you fail to see Sasuke's character and fap to Obito 24/7? That's laughable.

Sasuke left the village when he was 12/13 years old just to get power from Orochimaru. Was he harming anyone? No
Sasuke killed Orochimaru because he didn't like his methods. Did that cause a problem for anyone? No.
Sasuke killed Deidara and caused the death of Itachi just as Itachi wished. Did that cause a problem for anyone? Yes? Who? Sasuke Uchiha.
You want to whine about Sasuke turning up the ay he did after his brothers sacrifice and secret behind his brothers true actions because it didn't go the way you want. You act as if Sasuke is supposed to look at this moment as if nothing happened? Your reading comprehension and your understanding for Sasuke is pathetic, but it is no surprise since you seem to have your hand up Obito's ass all the time so it makes you clueless to other developed characters outside of Obito.

Sasuke attacking Bee and wanting to execute the kages were the only actions that Sasuke did that were illogical but when it came to executing the kages, it was just a reason for Naruto and Sasuke to have their final fight. As much as you people wanted to have them fight, it' quite funny how you complain after Sasuke starts to initiate it.

So yes, please do tell me what exactly was so "logical" about more than half the shit that Obito did? Just do that for one minute. Take your fapping goggles off, and for one measly minute explain how Obito's actions were logical.

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[Dragon Master]

Hebi Sasuke is the best Sasuke.

 

[SSStylish]

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Obito had logic behind his actions?????? Is this supposed to be fap logic 101? lml You can't be serious.

Was it logical for Obito to summon the Kyubi on the leaf and kill many civilians and ninja?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly kill Naruto's parents?
Was it logical for Obito to indirectly cause Naruto's life hell and make him be cast away by his own village?
Was it logical for Obito to hire 10+ s ranked monsters and criminals to hunt Jinchuriki and kill them for his own selfish reasons?
Was it logical for Obito to start a war and kill over half the SA just to start a dream where everyone can live under his rule in so called "peace?"
Was it logical for Obito to cause the death of one of Naruto's closest friends just just to toy with his emotions in a war?

You want to compare all of this mess to Sasuke's actions and call it "logical" all because you fail to see Sasuke's character and fap to Obito 24/7? That's laughable.

Sasuke left the village when he was 12/13 years old just to get power from Orochimaru. Was he harming anyone? No
Sasuke killed Orochimaru because he didn't like his methods. Did that cause a problem for anyone? No.
Sasuke killed Deidara and caused the death of Itachi just as Itachi wished. Did that cause a problem for anyone? Yes? Who? Sasuke Uchiha.
You want to whine about Sasuke turning up the ay he did after his brothers sacrifice and secret behind his brothers true actions because it didn't go the way you want. You act as if Sasuke is supposed to look at this moment as if nothing happened? Your reading comprehension and your understanding for Sasuke is pathetic, but it is no surprise since you seem to have your hand up Obito's ass all the time so it makes you clueless to other developed characters outside of Obito.

Sasuke attacking Bee and wanting to execute the kages were the only actions that Sasuke did that were illogical but when it came to executing the kages, it was just a reason for Naruto and Sasuke to have their final fight. As much as you people wanted to have them fight, it' quite funny how you complain after Sasuke starts to initiate it.

So yes, please do tell me what exactly was so "logical" about more than half the shit that Obito did? Just do that for one minute. Take your fapping goggles off, and for one measly minute explain how Obito's actions were logical.

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[Draphsin]

Sasuke didn't have logic behind his actions? Sasuke's goal after Itachi consisted of two things:
1. Killing the Elders and Danzo
2. Destroying the village

Sasuke wanted to kill the Elders and Danzo because they were the ones that decided Itachi would receive the order of killing the Uchiha and he was on the Uchiha clan's side at the time. The logic in that should be easy to see.

Sasuke wanted to destroy the village because the village used Itachi, they didn't know it which is what made Sasuke's views skewed. Sasuke essentially wanted them to know the pain they caused him, his clan and Itachi by selfishly sacrificing the latter two. It was like a punishment.

Sasuek didn't bother to look for more answers, he simply believed obito's word to be the complete truth despite the lies he told him & jumped to an irrational conclusion [attacking a meeting of the ninja world's leaders & then the village where he grew up]. He never bothered to stop & think "wait, is what I'm doing the right thing"? All he cared about was destroying the leaf village even though obito was party responsible for the deaths of his family as well.

Danzo actually said it quite nicely.

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Obito had logic behind his actions?????? Is this supposed to be fap logic 101? lml You can't be serious.

I'm not taking you seriously anymore.

Was it logical for Obito to summon the Kyubi on the leaf and kill many civilians and ninja?

IT makes this irrelevant.

Was it logical for Obito to indirectly kill Naruto's parents?

IT

Was it logical for Obito to indirectly cause Naruto's life hell and make him be cast away by his own village?

IT

Was it logical for Obito to hire 10+ s ranked monsters and criminals to hunt Jinchuriki and kill them for his own selfish reasons?

IT

Was it logical for Obito to start a war and kill over half the SA just to start a dream where everyone can live under his rule in so called "peace?"

Yes it was if that "dream" was exactly like real life, he went about it the wrong way but the end result was logical. Naruto & obito had a discussion about this I suggest you read up pal.

Was it logical for Obito to cause the death of one of Naruto's closest friends just just to toy with his emotions in a war?

Yes it was if he was proving the point that IT would come with no such pain.

You want to compare all of this mess to Sasuke's actions and call it "logical" all because you fail to see Sasuke's character and fap to Obito 24/7? That's laughable.

Sorry dude but all you said was nonsense & pointless, everything that obito did was logical because he was essentially creating a world where reality didn't matter, so his actions ultimately wouldn't have consequences.

Sasuke left the village when he was 12/13 years old just to get power from Orochimaru. Was he harming anyone? No

Who cares if he was harming anyone? & I never once mentioned part 1 sasuke so you fail here, MS is when uchiha go crazy.

Sasuke killed Orochimaru because he didn't like his methods. Did that cause a problem for anyone? No.

More irrelevant sh*t.

Sasuke killed Deidara and caused the death of Itachi just as Itachi wished. Did that cause a problem for anyone? Yes? Who? Sasuke Uchiha.

Again.

You want to whine about Sasuke turning up the ay he did after his brothers sacrifice and secret behind his brothers true actions because it didn't go the way you want.

This sentence makes no sense, learn english.

You act as if Sasuke is supposed to look at this moment as if nothing happened? Your reading comprehension and your understanding for Sasuke is pathetic, but it is no surprise since you seem to have your hand up Obito's ass all the time so it makes you clueless to other developed characters outside of Obito.

Lol More sh*t.

Sasuke attacking Bee and wanting to execute the kages were the only actions that Sasuke did that were illogical but when it came to executing the kages, it was just a reason for Naruto and Sasuke to have their final fight. As much as you people wanted to have them fight, it' quite funny how you complain after Sasuke starts to initiate it.

Dumbass, where did I ever say that I wanted naruto & sasuke to fight? Lol

So yes, please do tell me what exactly was so "logical" about more than half the shit that Obito did? Just do that for one minute.

IT, nuff said & your argument is turned to dust.

Take your fapping goggles off, and for one measly minute explain how Obito's actions were logical.

IT, now feel stupid. :heh:

 

[Transcendence]

Reposting my post from another thread.

Sasuke is a blank canvas, dictated by the way the manga transpires. From the beginning to the end, for Sasuke it was always about going deeper into the truth and the more he found out, the more his character changed and evolved. What makes Sasuke such a good character and in my opinion, the best in the manga, is how realistic he is about most things he does. And I bet every non-Sasuke fan will immediately say he isn't realistic, but you'd be sorely mistaken. Tell me this. If your entire family was murdered by your brother, your entire life is dedicated to killing him to get revenge, only to find out after he died that he did it to protect you; can you honestly say you would have mentally held up? People keep spouting that he's only driven by emotion, but aren't we all? Sasuke never did things without reason. He always wanted to get deeper into knowing the truth. Up until his Hebi days he saw Itachi only as an enemy. Finding more about the truth led to a personality change to his MS days. Gaining EMS he delved deeper into the truth from the Hokages. And once awakening the Rin'negan and learning more about the past and learning more of the "truth", he changed yet again into the revolutionary persona that we saw. You can't categorize Sasuke's character by typical means. His character isn't stagnant like Naruto or Kakashi. He's much more than that. And that, amongst many other reasons, makes Sasuke such an amazing character.

 

[Dannie]

Sasuek didn't bother to look for more answers, he simply believed obito's word to be the complete truth despite the lies he told him & jumped to an irrational conclusion [attacking a meeting of the ninja world's leaders & then the village where he grew up]. He never bothered to stop & think "wait, is what I'm doing the right thing"? All he cared about was destroying the leaf village even though obito was party responsible for the deaths of his family as well.

Danzo actually said it quite nicely.

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I'm not taking you seriously anymore.



IT makes this irrelevant.



IT



IT



IT



Yes it was if that "dream" was exactly like real life, he went about it the wrong way but the end result was logical. Naruto & obito had a discussion about this I suggest you read up pal.



Yes it was if he was proving the point that IT would come with no such pain.



Sorry dude but all you said was nonsense & pointless, everything that obito did was logical because he was essentially creating a world where reality didn't matter, so his actions ultimately wouldn't have consequences.



Who cares if he was harming anyone? & I never once mentioned part 1 sasuke so you fail here, MS is when uchiha go crazy.



More irrelevant sh*t.



Again.



This sentence makes no sense, learn english.



Lol More sh*t.



Dumbass, where did I ever say that I wanted naruto & sasuke to fight? Lol



IT, nuff said & your argument is turned to dust.



IT, now feel stupid. :heh:

So basically your whole argument is because of IT? Lol, are you retarded? Are you actually justifying IT?

It's okay folks. If I'm a fanboy of Obito it doesn't matter what Obito does. He can kill 1000 babies, but as long as he does it for IT then it is "logical" xd

I'm done with this fool.

 

[Draphsin]

So basically your whole argument is because of IT? Lol, are you retarded? Are you actually justifying IT?

& With this it's clear that you have no idea what I'm saying, again learn english.

It's okay folks. If I'm a fanboy of Obito it doesn't matter what Obito does. He can kill 1000 babies, but as long as he does it for IT then it is "logical" xd

I'm done with this fool.

Lol Banned? Serves you right, lmfao.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Yes I do think Sasuke is the best character in the Naruto manga.

Now people need to understand that being a good or bad character should not be totally based on the character's behavior in the story, but what the character brings and his significance to the story. Its true Sasuke was a jerk for almost the whole series and rustled many jimmies but that does not make him a bad character.

Look at Orochimaru, his actions are horrendous, yet he is one of the best characters of the show because of his effect on the story. Someone like Iruka however, his actions are pure but he is not a very good character.

Sasuke's character is very original and complex, Kishimoto himself stated that he is his most challenging character because he has a unique persona that he needs to maintain and that's what made him call Sasuke his favorite.

Good back story, consistent personality (there where times when he went psycho but thats for another topic), good design and move set, good character progression, and chapters 698 and 699 are proof.

But not to be too one-sided all of the other characters you mentioned in the poll are also some of the best and are just as relevant to the overall plot.

 

[SSStylish]

Lol Banned? Serves you right, lmfao.

I humbly disagree.