How can ppl not agree Kabuto>Itachi?

[ChiefHermit]

how can ppl who read the manga not understand that itachi owned kabuto?
rofl

 

[bl4ckJack]

Only retarded uchiha fans with no real logic beleave itachi stands a chance agaisnt kabuto! Then anyone who says edo itachi would of been different is even more retarded since edo means under kabutos control! Like seriously! How many retarded ppl are on this site now?

The Best one is U ( Reatrd KING ! ) ....
Itachi Kikd His ass ... Prove me wrong FanBoY ... Get over with It .. :flaw:

If U want to state ur fact ... state Clearly with LOGIC ... U r the only one who dint give any logic and talkin garbage ! first prove urself then talk ...
( I understood ur problem dude ... there is a talk .. A mad guy sees everyone around him as Mad ... so Its natural for a Retard to see everyone else as Retard )
Get over with ur Fanboyism !

 

[3MESSIAH]

kabuto:kuchiyose,edo tensei-madara uchiha.itachi dead.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Kabuto is a noob that steals powers. If it was his own then perhaps he could beat Itachi.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

btw sasuke could do more in that fight blame kishi for that

Sasuke didn't even use the Final Susanoo. He would make Kabuto's pants shit if he saw it.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Interesting reply however i have more to say about that illusion that i didnt. People seem to think that sound based genjutsu are stronger in terms of its binding power than seal based or sharingan based genjutsu because its been described as the strongest genjutsu. However the reason for this is because it can take over more than 1 opponent at a time but also its almost impossible to evade, thats the advantage that sound based genjutsu has over these other 2 methods.

Mateki Mugen Onsa is a B rank paralysis sound based genjutsu;

Spoiler

GENJUTSU; Mateki: Mugen Onsa (Demonic Flute: Phantasmal Crotchets*)
User: Tayuya
Supplementary; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: B

Main text

One of the genjutsu that rely on the sound of the flute. Whoever hears it will be assailed by the vivid sensation that their limbs have been fastened with sturdy ropes, thus becoming unable to move about freely. At the same time, they are fed morbid hallucinations, which makes it also possible to run them down mentally. Given that the means of transmission is sound-based, it has a large range of effectiveness, on top of which it can be applied even without knowledge of the enemy's position, which makes for an exceedingly convenient jutsu.

Second Databook, page 276

Kurenai's seal seal based paralysis genjutsu is a B rank technique similar to the one above.

Spoiler

GENJUTSU; Magen: Jubaku Satsu (Genjutsu; Demonic Illusion: Woodbound Assassination)
User: Yuuhi Kurenai
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: B

Main text

One of the genjutsu that have been passed along since ancient times in Konoha. One is completely robbed of their mobility as they see the mirage of a tree coiling itself around them! Given that the subject remains conscious, this jutsu proves extremely efficient for information-gathering.

Second Databook, page 275

Both if you read the description of the two does the same thing, it takes away mobility. The only difference is that one is sound whilst the other is seal based. Now im not saying because itachi said kurenai's genjutsu, a B rank technique doesnt work on him and used Magen Kyo Tenchi-ten he couldve tried something similar because we dont know how that works against sound genjutsu, however though paralysed he was able to move his mouth and talk to both kabuto and sasuke. If he was able to move his mouth. The same way how kurenai was paralysed and still managed to bite her lip to cause pain. If he was able to talk, he can move his mouth and achieve the same thing that kurenai did thus breaking free due to pain

There is 1 thing i forgot though which is sage mode. Sage mode enhances all 3 forms of ninja art and gives them a boost and that is what wouldve made the illusion stronger. However a similar thing can be said about the cm2 and that is what stage Tayuya was in when she used this against shikamaru

Logically going by the understanding of genjutsu it is possible for Itachi to break it the way Kurenai did by biting her lips since Itachi and co were freely talking. However, you have to take into consideration that DSM Kabuto could've attacked the second Itachi and Sasuke were caught. Instead the three of them had a chat that lasted a good 2-3 pages before Kabuto finally attacking. Had it been a proper fight things would've resulted differently, especially in a 1 v 1.

Regardless, Kabuto has many more alternative in his arsenal of attacks to trouble Itachi. While the same way cannot be said for Itachi as the OP states.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

yup

Also, people don't realize that Kabuto had the cave as his advantage, plus all the stolen powers.

 

[henryred95]

Explain me how did itachi beat Kabuto???

 

[bl4ckJack]

kabuto:kuchiyose,edo tensei-madara uchiha.itachi dead.

huh ! ... so much he has too do to make Itachi dead ... But for Itachi ...
Itachi- Izanami ... Kabuto LOLD!

 

[Rezakage]

YUP

 

[KidGamer65]

The Best one is U ( Reatrd KING ! ) ....
Itachi Kikd His ass ... Prove me wrong FanBoY ... Get over with It .. :flaw:

If U want to state ur fact ... state Clearly with LOGIC ... U r the only one who dint give any logic and talkin garbage ! first prove urself then talk ...
( I understood ur problem dude ... there is a talk .. A mad guy sees everyone around him as Mad ... so Its natural for a Retard to see everyone else as Retard )
Get over with ur Fanboyism !

Good Game Itachi.

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[SuperFlyzzED]

Gamer, Sasuke saved Itachi more than once. He also saved him from the Inorganic Recreation as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

Gamer, Sasuke saved Itachi more than once. He also saved him from the Inorganic Recreation as well.

Thanks for mentioning that, lemme go edit my post.

 

[Daruii]

Itachi could of easily avoided the attacks but he was a Edo so he did not has never bother with it itachi has never lost a battle he has always had a plan to win he always out smarts his enemy

 

[Gatsuuga]

huh ! ... so much he has too do to make Itachi dead ... But for Itachi ...
Itachi- Izanami ... Kabuto LOLD!

Seriously, your posts astound me. Explain to me in a logical fashion exactly how Itachi will activate Izanami? The only way he got it off was after he died 2-3 times. Lets break the fight down shall we.

• First potential death - white rage made itachi drop most of susano'o leaving him vulnerable. He didn't die then and there because Kabuto went for Sasuke.
• Death 1 - Inorganic transmutation, Itachi was impaled by the spike erupting from the ground. In this instance he was only saved by Sasuke. In a 1v1 he still would have died since susano'o is weak from underneath.
• Second potential death - Kabuto makes a web then switches to kimimaro's KKG, forcing the brothers to split their attacks. Again without Sasuke present Itachi would have been incapacitated by one of these jutsu.
• Third potential death - Tayuya's sound genjutsu catches the brothers, without Sasuke there to break him out Kabuto would have won then and there.
• Death 2 - Kabuto emerges from Orochimaru's mouth and proceeds to chop Itachi in half. Again kabuto would have rewritten Itachi's seal then and there if not for Sasuke's intervention.

Now I want you to pay very close attention to this next bit. None of the deaths I listed above are directly related to Izanami's activation. Izanami's activation stems from Itachi being impaled twice by sasuke's sword, thereby creating the loop. Therefore none of these deaths were intentional, but all of which would count as real deaths in a 1 v 1 fight. Also Itachi couldn't just 'let' himself get killed because Kabuto would re-write the Edo-tag, so he was try to avoid being killed.

So if your argument for Itachi winning is solely based on the fact that Itachi will activate Izanami then I have one big question? Even if Sasuke wasn't there and Itachi was Edo he would have died 5 times before getting Izanami to loop, whilst they never touched Kabuto. Therefore I ask how does a non-edo Itachi pull this off when only one death seals the win for Kabuto.

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi could of easily avoided the attacks but he was a Edo so he did not has never bother with it itachi has never lost a battle he has always had a plan to win he always out smarts his enemy

If he could have dodged he would have, just because he's an Edo doesn't mean that he can afford to get hit since Kabuto is trying to control him with the tag.

 

[Daruii]

If he could have dodged he would have, just because he's an Edo doesn't mean that he can afford to get hit since Kabuto is trying to control him with the tag.

Sasuke is with him if itachi gets hit sasuke would just protect him does kabuto have a move to counter amaterasu?

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke is with him if itachi gets hit sasuke would just protect humans does kabuto have a move to counter amaterasu?

Just because Sasuke is with him doesn't mean he will risk getting hit.

And yes he does Oral Rebirth.

 

[Daruii]

Just because Sasuke is with him doesn't mean he will risk getting hit.

And yes he does Oral Rebirth.

He also has totska blade combined with amaterasu and intention to kill itachi would have it in the bag

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

@Daruii, Double-standards.