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simply because itachi powned kabuto, and if it seemed like he was struggling it was because he was trying not to kill him.
why u guys always make up stupid shitty reasons to underrate itachi. He defeated everyone he faced without even trying too hard. Kabuto went into sage mode for gods sake. U made up this same silly arguments when he defeated nagato. please just shut up and deal with it !!!! Pleasee :sy:[/b]
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Destroy is a big word. Kabuto doesn't have Orochimaru's chakra anymore. How is he destructible with all his powers gone?
Interesting post youve got there. Only fair you upload when i said the highlighted parts. Only when you can upload these quotes will i take you seriously
I agree itachi in the state that he was when he fought sasuke, isnt enough to defeat kabuto. He will trouble kabuto no doubt but kabuto would prevail. However im a firm believer that edo itachi would beat him.
Anyway first and foremost i can never understand those who say if itachi wasnt edo he would be long dead. First of all the reason why kishi allowed itachi to take those hits is because he is edo, he was using itachi's edo abilities to its fullest. If it was living itachi vs kabuto, kishi wouldve altered the fight.
Secondly other factors such as the purpose of the fight.
Itachi taking advantage of his edo form
Protecting sasuke
Activation of izanami
All these factors were what allowed kabuto to damage itachi. I keep on hearing people say both parties were not fighting to kill and this is true but its more than that, never once was an attack by the uchiha bro's aimed at kabuto, they were defending their ground from the very start. Itachi made it very clear and still repeated it several times to sasuke that, they cannot attack kabuto. The only real attack from the bro's was for the activation of izanami where kabuto made contact with itachi's karasu bunshin. That was the only attack aimed at kabuto and that in itself was a decoy for the purpose of the fight.
Kabuto intentions was also to take control of itachi, but also keep sasuke alive for his own goals, he didnt attack sasuke. He did however attack itachi. Sure his aim was to take control of itachi. But in order to either seal or take control of an edo, they have to be severely damaged and that was what kabuto did. Attacks ranging from;
Senpo Muki Tensei
Senpo Hakugeki no Jutsu
Sawarabi no Mai
Mateki Mugen Onsa
Doton Doroku Gaeshi
Kumosokai
Chakura no Mesu
Are techniques that were aimed at itachi. Kabuto had to have him damaged in order to regain control of him. What im saying is that whether kabuto's aim was to regain control of itachi or not, he had to have him severely damaged in order to do so therefore whether kabuto's aim was to kill or regain control of itachi is irrelevant because its these same attacks that he would've used if the fight was to kill and itachi was alive and not edo. Whilst ive come up with a list of attacks that kabuto aimed at itachi, i wonder whether somebody can come up with a list of attacks that itachi or the bro's aimed at kabuto, apart from the karasu bunshin which was to activate izanami.
Kabuto's fighting style wouldnt have changed, because its these same technique's he wouldve used. Itachi's frame of mind and thinking strategy wouldve changed and he might actually decide to find a way to defeat him even with the abilities that kabuto has gained. Perhaps decide to wield the legendary weapons himself, which wouldve made him a very dangerous opponent with the speed, taijutsu and precognition feat thanks to the sharingan to use these weapons very effectively, not even kabuto's medic ninjutsu prowess would save him once the sword has pierced him.
As for the sound genjutsu i personally believe people are trolling when they say itachi or the brothers were there for the taking and if neither had a partner that was that for them. That genjutsu was broken by shikamaru in part 1 inflicting pain on himself. He did this by breaking his finger. To say either genjutsu users who have shown such feats to genjutsu cannot do the same or something similar is beyond me. Itachi was in his edo state and couldve decided to do exactly what shikamaru did, he wouldve regenerated his finger. Instead i believe he took advantage of this scenario and decided to do what he hasnt done all his life which was to recognise his comrades abilities, especially sasuke's who he has constantly been sleeping on
Everybody is after a hot thread these days and it seems like im seeing quiet alot of threads underrating itachi recently, though there are also one's overrating him. However i will not get trolled and take any thread that underrates him seriously. Hype and feats are more than enough for me to put itachi above jiraiya and majority of the ninja's in the series. Why itachi fans or people who like itachi always feel the need to defend him is something i cannot understand , though i used to do this also.
Ive finally come to realise that, there is nothing to defend when the person you back sits at the very top of the ninja world and only a hand full of ninja's are above him. Never has he fought with the intention to put his opponent in a coffin, but there are always been other reasons and yet he has always achieved what he set out to do in a fight one way or another. Even with help that doesnt exlcude the fact that he 1 shotted nagato and kabuto and went out by his own terms. No itachi fan should feel the need to keep on defending him. Not when the manga has put him on a very high pedestal
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Yeah kabuto owns itachi when he can't die & he owns itachi by stealing power yeah thats all so true HELL NAH i don't even really like itachi i like sasuke but itachi would rape kabuto kishi just made up that fight to get ready with tobi
people posting pics of Itachi cut in half or stuck stone pillars or whatever they we're (the ceiling of the cave?) but hello people, Kabuto was already well under izanami by then.....please re-read the manga and stop this foolish thread already
When did that include madara, hanzo, nagato, and the rest of the edo's. Never did i mention any one of them, so what exactly does your previous post say about you. What i said was about kabuto himself. Please link me when i included the other characters you listed
Id quote the part i said "Even with help that doesnt exlcude the fact that he 1 shotted nagato and kabuto and went out by his own terms." Thats what i said.
You said that i said "Blze truly believs itachi defeated nagato and kabuto by himself!"
In my quote i admitted help and thats why the word help is there, i however went on to say that although help was needed, he did 1 shot them. Admitted help and admitted what happened after. However in your quote you claimed i said he defeated nagato and kabuto byhimself
LMAo so now we're playing dumb?
What every itachi fan or person who can read needs to understand a FACT OF THE MANGA!
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When you fight kabuto you fight them since they are his tools! ITS A FACT OF THE MANGA! WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Any dumb ass that says "Kabuto with out edo" basically is saying I take away a ninjas best weapon to meet my requirements. CLaps hand, summons them! Simple is it not?
ANd no, i said "Blaze believes itachi One shotted them", which is what you said. One shot means all it took is one move and nothing else. That is far from the truth. KAbuto raped them both the entire match and still couldnt do what he wanted to because it was 2 on one and he needed them both (fact). And yes i know they weren't trying to kill him aswell, but what could they have done???? I have facts that shows he can counter any ms tech (they use) shown 1 vs 1.
Kabuto is a genius aswell so all you itachi fans need to shut up acting as if he is god and knows everything instant! Kabuto knows almost everything and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more then itachi. Kabuto Uterly rapes any version of itachi.
And btw You saying "edo itachi" means your saying "Kabuto vs kabuto" Since edo itachi is a summon of kabuto (fact)! Unless he is fighting naruto, itachi will be under kabutos command (fact).
Cannot take you seriously and read the first few sentences and quit. To my knwoledge the op was talking about kabuto and him only. Never did he mention kabuto and his edo's and thats why i went along and said what i did. If he had made it clear that its kabuto and his edo's then there was nothing to argue about. Clearly its you who are confused and to sound harsh or anything, not particularly bothered whether you had respect for me and lost it because i couldnt care less.
Maybe you overestimated me, therefore id allow you to see how dumb i am.
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Itachi > 10 tails. At least when you post this quote from me, will i acknowledge it as exactly what i was saying
I totally agree with you Blaze, i too keep defending Itachi against those who think he's not good
Everyone is just trying to find some bullshit reasons to make Itachi look bad when there are no reasons, they keep coming up with some bullshit arguements that mean nothing, when those who defend Itachi come up with decent arguements and reasons why Itachi can win fights...
I totally agree with you Blaze, i too keep defending Itachi against those who think he's not good
Everyone is just trying to find some bullshit reasons to make Itachi look bad when there are no reasons, they keep coming up with some bullshit arguements that mean nothing, when those who defend Itachi come up with decent arguements and reasons why Itachi can win fights...
I have read every comment in this thread and don't remember seeing any comments by you that was worth debating against. If you have solid and logically thought out arguments, mind reposting them?