Actually, Madara is considered a primary source because he was there and fought Hashirama head on. Hiruzen's hype on the other hand, would be considered a secondary source.
I don't normally debate, I'm a theory guy but anyway, no it did not happen on a hashirama that was in control of his body so there is no proof that it would, if it was an edo who was then their is still the argument that they know they can regenerate but an edo who is a mindless zombie who only abides to oro's will?
That the strongest Raikage was outdone by a clone? [
So Emna who fought with Hiruzen is considered secondary source? So Orochimaru who fought with Hiruzen is considered Secondary source?
You may be correct. There's no proof that normal Hashirama wouldn't of would of avoided it. There's no definite conclusion. I simply mean to say that the Edo's can use all their abilities and that the user doesn't have to know them.
Thats one interpretation however i disagree. Again it says the deciding factor for life and death was age. It then goes on to say if he was 10 years younger the outcome wouldve been different.
I got things mixed. It was actually Deidara not Madara
...And does that mean he can block an TBB? Yes he had the tailed beast surpressed but that does not mean he should control them like Obito have done.
I'll address bolded parts in order of 1-X
Have you not been listening to anything? Its not about what techniques he uses. Its about how uses them.
Where did I say Kabuto couldnt use his techniques? This is Kabuto admitting he doesnt know Deidara very well therefore he cant use his powers to as efficiently as Deidara will himself. This has been my whole point, hence the Naruto getting Minato's skills illustration.
In what way did he use them less efficiently then a living nagato? There's no proof of that whatsoever because Nagato has always utilized his paths and in this fight he fought by himself.
Again open to interpretaton. Life as in the one that oro has?
The job of overcoming this problem would've obviously been better placed in Nagato's hands, because he has fought with this handicap for years. Kabuto had never been in a top level fight with Edo Nagato, so how you can claim that the former's ability to use the Rinnegan's jutsu was as effectively and efficiently as what the real Nagato (with 30+ years of experience) was capable of I do not know.
You're saying that the Edo Tensei user knows every ability of the summon and can use it as effectively as that very person. It doesn't matter when KA was placed, by your logic, Kabuto should know everything about 'Itachi' and his jutsu. After all, it's not like a shinobi could master a technique just before they die and are re-animated with the jutsu. Kabuto will somehow know about it anyway, right? Kabuto (and Orochimaru for that matter) were summoning people who, in some cases, had died decades before they'd even been born. So I don't see why they should know every little detail about their summon's arsenal (and how effectively it could be used) without even seeing them fight.
It's not merely about using all of Nagato's jutsu. It's about using it as effectively and efficiently as the actual person. That's why I likened it to someone forcing Naruto to use a Rasengan to defend against Amaterasu. Who said what you're using is the best counter to the opponent's techniques? How is Kabuto supposed to know what the best way for Sandaime Raikage to dodge/overcome a Rasenagn when he hasn't even seen the third fight? It's simple, he doesn't, only the Sandaime Raikage would know that. He could make an estimated guess but this takes time and will obviously lower the quality of the Edo Tensei summon. Kabuto's summons can't retain their finesse or unique fighting style if their emotions are suppressed. This goes without saying.
Bold part, not at all. The life and death was directed to Hiruzen, when it stated that the deciding factor was his age. It clearly implies that, they would've traded places if this happened 10 years before
1-Because the manga states so. It doesn't say in the manga the quality of those jutsu's are lowered if the user doesn't understand them.
Oh really? It'd be nice if you can post the pages which state Kabuto has full knowledge on all his summon's abilities.
I never said he got killed by a Rasengan. I said he failed to dodge/overcome that jutsu.
Zabuza only used his hidden mist jutsu. His fighting style is based around this one jutsu and silent killing. You're suggesting that instead of having an Edo Itachi spam Susano'o, he'd make him use bunshin feints and finger genjutsu all day long.
