Flaw logic of NB members Kuchiyose no Jutsu and Edo Tensei

[Trollnojutsu]

When has Gamabunta ever refused fighting for anyone?...

Right, because the 2nd Mizukage and 3rd Raikage were totally willing to fight with Kabuto, right?

Wrong.

Feel free to respond to my other post which contained most of my points.

In the beginning of the Series he would fight for naruto, he only faux because he saw that the one tails had almost completely emerged, he didn't want to fight for naruto but understood he had no other choice. I can find the page if you really want me to but I'm just too damn lazy.

 

[warlee]

So if kabuto summon his edo against hashirama, hashirama will say it's not his power right? You know this is funny because nowhere in the manga does it says edo is not kabuto's or oro's power. It's just that kabuto with his edo's will beat you fav character that is why you trying to dis the guy. And that is your opinion/interpretatn nothing else because thats not said in the manga. As long as kabuto can make them do whatever he want even if it's against their wish and will then they are his power.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This thread is embarrassing.

 

[Booker]

I said he can :sy:

what the hell are you talking about? Kabuto manipulated their minds......still doesn't make 3rd Raikage's power Kabuto's own.

i'm pretty sure i did respond.

Gamabunta has shown zero evidence that he will refuse to fight for Naruto, so my evidence > your evidence (none).

Kabuto is using them as TOOLS. Are you dense or something? Since the 2nd and 3rd HAD to do as Kabuto ordered, that makes them TOOLS, just like a shuriken that must obey what you do with it.

and you did, I hadn't realized it was in an edit.

 

[Booker]

This thread is embarrassing.

Please Derp, share your opinion on this thread. I'm sure it would be much appreciated for either side.

 

[Penguin]

Edo Tensei should not count as part of the users power, since it is other shinobi. Summoning Jutsu like Gamabunta should be part of the power, since you signed a contract. That is IMO so dont hate on me.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Please Derp, share your opinion on this thread. I'm sure it would be much appreciated for either side.

KGB Kakuzu nailed it already, it's useless to argue with someone like the OP who insisted that Senpou Mokuton is not Sage Mode.

 

[KingHashirama]

Gamabunta has shown zero evidence that he will refuse to fight for Naruto, so my evidence > your evidence (none).

Kabuto is using them as TOOLS. Are you dense or something? Since the 2nd and 3rd HAD to do as Kabuto ordered, that makes them TOOLS, just like a shuriken that must obey what you do with it.

and you did, I hadn't realized it was in an edit.

Key word "AS" tools. Comparison. Do you even know what you say ? or you babble your mouth , while thinking your right?


Gamabunta has shown 0 evidence he will refuse to fight for Naruto? must be reading the wrong manga. He only fought for Naruto cause he summoned him for good reasons.

Naruto and Gamabunta are friends, not each others tools.

Yea my bad dawg, i kinda have to put in a edit sometimes.

This thread is embarrassing.

Derp, this doesn't sound good coming from the guy , who made theories that go against the manga.

KGB Kakuzu nailed it already, it's useless to argue with someone like the OP who insisted that Senpou Mokuton is not Sage Mode.

The one who is calling "senpou mokuton" sage mode...... lmao.

Hashirama's Sage mode is not even named..... lmaooo.

So if kabuto summon his edo against hashirama, hashirama will say it's not his power right? You know this is funny because nowhere in the manga does it says edo is not kabuto's or oro's power. It's just that kabuto with his edo's will beat you fav character that is why you trying to dis the guy. And that is your opinion/interpretatn nothing else because thats not said in the manga. As long as kabuto can make them do whatever he want even if it's against their wish and will then they are his power.

Kabuto is the god damn leader.......

ARMY IS THE LEADER'S POWER....... Do you FREAKING UNDERSTAND?

Where is it said the shinobi alliance isn't Naruto's power?

 

[lol99]

KGB Kakuzu nailed it already, it's useless to argue with someone like the OP who insisted that Senpou Mokuton is not Sage Mode.

are you trying to make fun of KingHashirama? he makes excellent posts dude

 

[Booker]

KGB Kakuzu nailed it already, it's useless to argue with someone like the OP who insisted that Senpou Mokuton is not Sage Mode.

...Annnnnnd now I know what I'm dealing with. Thank you for that last nugget of information.

 

[Waltz]

The original kanji 口寄せ・穢土転生 of the technique translates Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei. Simply denoting that Edo Tensei is a summon just like any other summon but, a special summon in and of itself and is indeed and apart of the users own power. By definition 'Power' is the ability to do something...If your techniques are your own and you can do them, they are apart of your power.

 

[KingHashirama]

The original kanji 口寄せ・穢土転生 of the technique translates Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei. Simply denoting that Edo Tensei is a summon just like any other summon but, a special summon in and of itself and is indeed and apart of the users own power. By definition 'Power' is the ability to do something...If your techniques are your own and you can do them, they are apart of your power.

The topic is if the things summoned by Edo tensei are part of the user's power. There shouldn't be a matter of control if they were part of the user's power.

Kabuto has the power to bring back the dead.. which is what Edo tensei is.

Also, Summons are transportations.... aka S/T techniques.

People are getting the Technique itself, and the things summoned by the technique confused.
By Edo tensei in my thread i was referring to the people themselves, not the technique.

 

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[KingHashirama]

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=] Go read the manga kiddo.

 

[The Necromancer]

Scans first because I don't believe you.

Hard to see her, but she is summoned facing the background. You can see the flower in her hair, as well as count the other 6 paths apart from her.

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[Waltz]

The topic is if the things summoned by Edo tensei are part of the user's power. There shouldn't be a matter of control if they were part of the user's power.

Kabuto has the power to bring back the dead.. which is what Edo tensei is.

Also, Summons are transportations.... aka S/T techniques.

*sigh*

Sasori has complete control over his summons, some even represent deceased ninja but they appear in the form of puppets, which renders your argument. It is indeed a revival of the dead but whats your point? Aren't the Six Paths of pein each a summon and a completely controlled deceased individuals at that? When referring to battle, edo's are summoned via kuchiyose no jutsu which makes them as any other summon, the ability to do the technique already merges it to your power via, definition of the word.

 

[warlee]

This guy is just dumb lmao sorry bro but you push it. Naruto and the alliance are not bind together by a jutsu neither are they summons. Naruto can summon them any time he wants, he can't have them anything against their will, no comparism at all

 

[sasuke007]

1:imo edo tensi is not a unique skill, edo tensi is a technique, for clarity lets just call it a spell, anyone that knows the spell can use it
you can enhance the spell with other techniques, but basically anyone can do it if they knew the spell.

2: if you summon the dead back without their free will and control them, they are not pawns they are puppets and there is a big difference, however if you think about it sometimes pawn and puppet can mean the same thing but i think edo tensi by it's very nature makes the sommoned person a robot-like puppet to be used as a pawn.

 

[Booker]

Hard to see her, but she is summoned facing the background. You can see the flower in her hair, as well as count the other 6 paths apart from her.

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Where does this say she was summoned? what?

 

[The Necromancer]

Where does this say she was summoned? what?

You can see her... Yes i know she is hard to see, but i felt this was common knowledge. No one has ever questioned it. lol. The fact of the matter is you still haven't answered my question.