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Even after Hiruzen had sealed parts of his soul away, fought for quite some time, diminished his chakra greatly with shadow clones, disarmed Orochimaru sword in close combat easily, and had the speed to sneak up in front of him and while having the sword of Kusangi pierced through him, he was...

Like what level of Taijutsu would you consider he is at?

Since his plan was to let Sasuke defeat him to honor and avenge the clan so that Sasuke can come back to the village as a hero.

What do you guys think?

Doesn't anyone on the base have any PATIENCE!!!! He is still regenerating on the battlefield and when he comes back to show an OP jutsu than BOOM!!! Everyone will start riding him! I remember when many people called Tobirama fodder and than suddenly in 1 chapter he displays excellent feats...

I'm very aware many of the members either dislike Hiruzen or just call him fodder. I don't believe it's wise to call him fodder especially when he has not gotten time to show his techniques. So he doesn't show up for a chapter or 2? So what? The manga did not end and the Hokages are still...

Now we all know Hiruzen only used it to analyze Obito's techniques but is the technique in itself useful in combat in the current manga's standards.

Against the current Obito or Madara would an reanimated Itachi and Nagato be of any help?

Would it work at this point or is it pointless?

I have come to understand that Hiruzen on the base is considered by most to be "fodder" I don't understand why he gets ranked so low especially if he didn't even get the chance to show his full abilities in the war yet. Shuriken Shadow Clone jutsu was just to analyze Obito's attacks. Also anyone...

I believe it's either Tobirama or Hiruzen. Your opinions?

Personally I believe Batman takes this. I believe this because Superman intrusted Batman to stop him if he (Superman) were to go haywire and go to the dark side. He even gave Batman Kryptonite just in case. BUT What do you guys think! :) Your opinions MATTER!

Would you agree if the Sword of Totsuka and Kaumi would defeat the Juubi easily. If not, Explain why?

Hiruzen will be shown soon since the 4 suns barrier isn't needed. He will fight soon!

Just cause we have not seen his feats doesn't automatically mean his hype is wrong. In fact it will be funny to see the haters reactions when his feats will make him look like a god. Only Hashirama, Hiruzen and SO6P have been given the title God Of Shinobi which means Hiruzen must of been...

Hiruzen is underrated

For me: Strongest: Hashirama Senju (Might change until we see the Hokages actually fight) Greatest: Hiruzen Sarutobi

Just curious about what the base thinks? Some people here make him too overrated or sometimes he is very underrated. But honestly, how strong do you think Hiruzen is? I personally think within the top 15. Maybe even top 10. What do you guys think?

We have seen her tank so much attacks and still survive. She took a sword through her chest by Orochimaru. She could still continue fighting even after getting impaled through her abdomen with two Susanoo blades. Even after being cut in half, she was still able to survive the ordeal with Madara...

What Obito could have been like if he was a good guy Or was it still just an act. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD_81JDTsOI