[Discussion] Is Luffy way stronger than Zoro?

[Uverdore9]

Strongest is not said literally. Mihawk is not the strongest Shanks is. Anyone say otherwise is either playing stupid or that dumb.

 

[karol the don]

From wat we have seen luffy plays on a different league than zoro now. The mihawk dang is fun. His title r potrayed the greatest and not the strongest. Shanks title solos mihawk title. Mihawk got only a better sword skills. Haki strength shanks is superior than mihawks , very simple brate. Manga showed that shanks is way above mihawk . If shanks haki wasnt the best in the series so far and his raw strength wouldnt be that high, i could agree that mihawk > shanks . But dats not the case. Right now we know shanks > mihawk. Its also a lame excuse to say hes only not a yonko cuz he aint own a crew. Nothing wat mihawk showed so far make him a yonko in power levels.

 

[Skull Knight]

The age old Mihawk n Shanks debate
1)Mihawk is WSS n Shanks is Yonko(4strongest Pirate)
There title descriptions doesn't allow us put one over another

2)There duels happened way back n it's safe to assume no result came out as Shanks wouldn't have said u come to fight me(when Mihawk came with Luffy's poster) - Losers don't say that.

3)Most of the title are made by fodders:
World Strongest Slash
God Enel/Ussop
5th Emperor
King Punch

And these are based on rumours that influence major characters n we have seen People carry it even tho they not at there best shape Example: WB.

4)Mihawk sliced a mountain n similar thing Shanks showed when he n WB sliced Heaven. So far they showed similar feats.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

The age old Mihawk n Shanks debate
1)Mihawk is WSS n Shanks is Yonko(4strongest Pirate)
There title descriptions doesn't allow us put one over another

2)There duels happened way back n it's safe to assume no result came out as Shanks wouldn't have said u come to fight me(when Mihawk came with Luffy's poster) - Losers don't say that.

3)Most of the title are made by fodders:
World Strongest Slash
God Enel/Ussop
5th Emperor
King Punch

And these are based on rumours that influence major characters n we have seen People carry it even tho they not at there best shape Example: WB.

4)Mihawk sliced a mountain n similar thing Shanks showed when he n WB sliced Heaven. So far they showed similar feats.

Parting clouds is nothing like slicing mountains....

 

[LBeezy]

The age old Mihawk n Shanks debate

I know right.. lol

Only Oda can settle this xd

 

[Skull Knight]

Parting clouds is nothing like slicing mountains....

What's the difference???

I know right.. lol

Only Oda can settle this xd

Lol

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

What's the difference???



Lol

I'm like 100% sure you could waft through clouds just by making contact with them. Forget being super human. All that's needed is a gust of air, no matter how weak, that goes high.

 

[Skull Knight]

I'm like 100% sure you could waft through clouds just by making contact with them. Forget being super human. All that's needed is a gust of air, no matter how weak, that goes high.

Lol thing is he didn't push the clouds. He clearly cut them clean that's why there was a rift. It doesn't matter if it's soft or hard. U need to have good fire power to pull a stunt like that.

Now why they are same because
1) distance(it's obvious distance between ship n cloud is more than those Tsunami's)

2) long slash attack was used

3) that attack Showed even with one hand he didn't lose his charm

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Lol thing is he didn't push the clouds. He clearly cut them clean that's why there was a rift. It doesn't matter if it's soft or hard. U need to have good fire power to pull a stunt like that.

Now why they are same because
1) distance(it's obvious distance between ship n cloud is more than those Tsunami's)

2) long slash attack was used

3) that attack Showed even with one hand he didn't lose his charm

That was a combined attack from WB and Shanks, and I seriously doubt cutting through clouds is all that difficult. Long slash, sure, but that's nothing too special either.

 

[Skull Knight]

That was a combined attack from WB and Shanks, and I seriously doubt cutting through clouds is all that difficult. Long slash, sure, but that's nothing too special either.

And u think cutting ice is difficult in One Piece pfff...

 

[Big Mom]

That was a combined attack from WB and Shanks, and I seriously doubt cutting through clouds is all that difficult. Long slash, sure, but that's nothing too special either.

I was under the impression their haki split the clouds, not a slash

 

[Easyfathom]

I was under the impression their haki split the clouds, not a slash

I thought the same... Which is what makes it such an impressive feat, their will's reaching even the heavens!

 

[Big Mom]

I thought the same... Which is what makes it such an impressive feat, their will's reaching even the heavens!

Exactlyyy

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

And u think cutting ice is difficult in One Piece pfff...

I was under the impression their haki split the clouds, not a slash

I thought the same... Which is what makes it such an impressive feat, their will's reaching even the heavens!

I don't think either should register as impressive for the two, but I place Mihawk's feat higher because ice > clouds and he did it alone AND 100% casually. We've already seen that making haki shriek far off isn't all that difficult anyhow, the only real task would be getting nothing more than a gust of air to touch the clouds.

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[Skull Knight]

I don't think either should register as impressive for the two, but I place Mihawk's feat higher because ice > clouds and he did it alone AND 100% casually. We've already seen that making haki shriek far off isn't all that difficult anyhow, the only real task would be getting nothing more than a gust of air to touch the clouds.

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As I said above both were same.
You are underestimating clouds density as we have seen people live in those clouds or at least they are as much solid as ice(maybe even stronger)
We saw guys like Monk n Kaido can walk on it in random sky island.
Let's not forget the reaction where someone thought it was declaration of war. So it was a similar fear.
Don't know how Haki can split clouds tho without damaging Shanks n WB's ship -_-

 

[Easyfathom]

As I said above both were same.
You are underestimating clouds density as we have seen people live in those clouds or at least they are as much solid as ice(maybe even stronger)
We saw guys like Monk n Kaido can walk on it in random sky island.
Let's not forget the reaction where someone thought it was declaration of war. So it was a similar fear.
Don't know how Haki can split clouds tho without damaging Shanks n WB's ship -_-

I presume two forces displaying equal power and therefore the power only has one way to go, > ^ <. The was just a simple clash for these two, it's a lot more impressive that Minato is crediting them for.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

As I said above both were same.
You are underestimating clouds density as we have seen people live in those clouds or at least they are as much solid as ice(maybe even stronger)
We saw guys like Monk n Kaido can walk on it in random sky island.
Let's not forget the reaction where someone thought it was declaration of war. So it was a similar fear.
Don't know how Haki can split clouds tho without damaging Shanks n WB's ship -_-

Odds are a sky island wasn't above them, so the clouds could have been regular. Though I've got to agree with you on this one. It's pretty likely that clouds are generally firmer in One Piece. The assumption goes well with Doffy's ability to latch onto them so often.

I presume two forces displaying equal power and therefore the power only has one way to go, > ^ <. The was just a simple clash for these two, it's a lot more impressive that MinaMOto is crediting them for.

In my entire life, this is the worst logic I've seen used in a serious manner.

 

[Easyfathom]

Odds are a sky island wasn't above them, so the clouds could have been regular. Though I've got to agree with you on this one. It's pretty likely that clouds are generally firmer in One Piece. The assumption goes well with Doffy's ability to latch onto them so often.

In my entire life, this is the worst logic I've seen used in a serious manner.

How so? if two opposing energies are being exerted in opposite directions equally ><, thaen where is the energy going to go? They don't want the ship to get wrecked and therefore they go up >^<. Makes perfect sense. I did GCSE physics, sooo....

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

How so? if two opposing energies are being exerted in opposite directions equally ><, thaen where is the energy going to go? They don't want the ship to get wrecked and therefore they go up >^<. Makes perfect sense. I did GCSE physics, sooo....

I'd assume it could also go down and strike the ship. Yeh, you said they wouldn't want that, but that comment seemed to be centered on the flow itself with no indication of intervention. I'm even willing to double down and say that there would be no way Shanks and WB could redirect the resulting force from their collusion. That'd be to say Luffy or Doffy could've harnessed the airs they sent striking through Dressrosa.

 

[Skull Knight]

Odds are a sky island wasn't above them, so the clouds could have been regular. Though I've got to agree with you on this one. It's pretty likely that clouds are generally firmer in One Piece. The assumption goes well with Doffy's ability to latch onto them so often.

Yup clouds in OP is different then real world. I m not saying there was a sky island but the way things are presented clouds are quite dense n the reaction of the crew itself was similar to the reaction what Mihawk did when he cut the Tsunami mountain.

I presume two forces displaying equal power and therefore the power only has one way to go, > ^ <. The was just a simple clash for these two, it's a lot more impressive that Minato is crediting them for.

Lol if it was Conqueror Haki it would have destroyed ships as Shanks Haki was strong enough to start breaking the ship add WB's- ship would have destroyed.
We should also not forget that both started fighting with there weapon. So only logical explanation of that rift in clouds is one of them sent a slash n other one diverted it towards those clouds.