Except we see explicit proof that Madara used his PS against Hashirama in the past. Sasuke simply cloaked Kurama in standard Susano’o, otherwise, he would’ve used any type of higher tier Susano’o by himself against his opponents. Btw @Bold: show me where Sasuke says that .
:lol No we don't what so ever. Only thing we have of Madara using PS is in Hashirama's story to Sasuke and Sasuke using PS on Kurama and referenced his use of it to like Madara's.
Sasuke somehow don't have PS yet already shown a non stabilized form of it. And somehow needed Kurama's chakra to make a V2/3 with legs :lol
:lol No we don't what so ever. Only thing we have of Madara using PS is in Hashirama's story to Sasuke and Sasuke using PS on Kurama and referenced his use of it to like Madara's.
Sasuke somehow don't have PS yet already shown a non stabilized form of it. And somehow needed Kurama's chakra to make a V2/3 with legs :lol
By your logic EMS Madara never had PS since he never used it till he got Rinnegan. But in fact he and Sasuke both used PS to cover Kurama with it. Uh if you read the manga he actually was gonna use it when Naruto asked if he could keep up then didn't since Naruto couldn't go into his bijuu state. Manga legit already shown this.
@boldUnderlined: Where did you get that impression from that manga panel? Pretty sure I told you to elaborate on that.
Also, when did Sasuke show a non-stabilized form of it rofl? You must be when he’s standing by Naruto. So again, you’re telling me that everyone else (full Kurama avatars Minato and Naruto) was going all out except for Sasuke?
Lmao @bold: So like I said, we do explicitly see proof that Madara was using PS in the past. Or no?
@boldUnderlined: Where did you get that impression from that manga panel? Pretty sure I told you to elaborate on that.
Also, when did Sasuke show a non-stabilized form of it rofl? You must be when he’s standing by Naruto. So again, you’re telling me that everyone else (full Kurama avatars Minato and Naruto) was going all out except for Sasuke?
Bruh, you’re legit trolling or dense. The difference between the two scenarios is that WE DID SEE MADARA UTILIZE PS BEFORE cloaking Kurama. Despite it being unstabilized, it’s height alone with only it’s top half showing matched that of the Kurama. I hope you’re not as dense as you’re letting on. End of story, hold the L. It doesn’t matter which “V” Sasuke was using, he wasn’t using PS.
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The only time Sasuke displayed a Susano’o or similar magnitude is when he went full PS post death.
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See the funny thing is, you guys are comparing Madara’s PS to Sasuke but not taking into account the differences. So let’s explore that, shall we?
Exhibit A.) Sasuke’s perfect Susano’o:
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Exhibit B.) Madara’s PS:
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Main Attraction 1.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - war arc:
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Main Attraction 2.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - Post War Arc/Boruto:
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Summation: So unless you guys are telling me that Sasuke is using Madara’s PS, where are the horns when Sasuke partially manifested his “PS”? Where are they when he cloak Kurama with Susano’o? I’ll wait.
Bruh, you’re legit trolling or dense. The difference between the two scenarios is that WE DID SEE MADARA UTILIZE PS BEFORE cloaking Kurama. Despite it being unstabilized, it’s height alone with only it’s top half showing matched that of the Kurama. I hope you’re not as dense as you’re letting on. End of story, hold the L. It doesn’t matter which “V” Sasuke was using, he wasn’t using PS.
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The only time Sasuke displayed a Susano’o or similar magnitude is when he went full PS post death.
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See the funny thing is, you guys are comparing Madara’s PS to Sasuke but not taking into account the differences. So let’s explore that, shall we?
Exhibit A.) Sasuke’s perfect Susano’o:
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Exhibit B.) Madara’s PS:
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Main Attraction 1.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - war arc:
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Main Attraction 2.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - Post War Arc/Boruto:
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Summation: So unless you guys are telling me that Sasuke is using Madara’s PS, where are the horns when Sasuke partially manifested his “PS”? Where are they when he cloak Kurama with Susano’o? I’ll wait.
There’s an issue though, the only form of susanoo where the user is in the jewel in the forehead is PS.....as you can see, naruto and sasuke are in the “jewel”
There’s an issue though, the only form of susanoo where the user is in the jewel in the forehead is PS.....as you can see, naruto and sasuke are in the “jewel”
Initially when Naruto went Biju mode, he was always in his Avatar’s head location also; Sasuke and Madara can decide where they want to be placed also. Sasuke chose to be in the head while Madara chose to remain in the torso - same thing applies to their combined avatars:
Still no jewel, the jewels are only on ps’. Madaras had one, kakashis had one, sasukes has one as well, even in legged susanoo he’s in the head but no jewel. Same with madara when he uses it against the 5 kage. Jewel in ps, no jewel in legged
Still no jewel, the jewels are only on ps’. Madaras had one, kakashis had one, sasukes has one as well, even in legged susanoo he’s in the head but no jewel. Same with madara when he uses it against the 5 kage. Jewel in ps, no jewel in legged
There’s levels to the Susano’o as you know and they can alter its forms but even Itachi’s Susano’o had a jewel and scales. Sasuke’s does too, it depends on how they decide to manifest their chakra. Point is though, Sasuke wasn’t using PS to cloak Kurama.
There’s levels to the Susano’o as you know and they can alter its forms but even Itachi’s Susano’o had a jewel and scales. Sasuke’s does too, it depends on how they decide to manifest their chakra. Point is though, Sasuke wasn’t using PS to cloak Kurama.
If your referring to itachis v3 he used on sasuke it the jewels different and not in the middle, the series makes it a point that all ps’ are pretty similar outside of color and the sheer size of madaras. Not only that itachi nor sasuke are in the head in v3. Also, the armor on kurama looks much much more like a ps than a v4 legged, the “armor” is completely different. The thing is ps is an ems power, the only reason that personally believe he didn’t show it was cause he upgraded it right then and there like he was at the kage summit. While it doesn’t ever say this, it makes sense to me because we have no clue what madara did between gaining ems and rolling up on hashi with ps. Sasuke had about... a day or 2 real time before he went from ems to rinne? I think it takes a lil to manifest a ps the first time. Either way that’s my .02 on it. The evidence to me suggests more towards him being able to use it in ems than not. The scan your using of boruto is also kind of iffy cause that combo looks much more like sasukes “bijuu” susanoo combined with kurama than anything else, and was also born from a movie. V4 doesn’t have the jewel at all, and it makes lil sense to cover kurama with a v3 when you have v4 available
If your referring to itachis v3 he used on sasuke it the jewels different and not in the middle, the series makes it a point that all ps’ are pretty similar outside of color and the sheer size of madaras. Not only that itachi nor sasuke are in the head in v3. Also, the armor on kurama looks much much more like a ps than a v4 legged, the “armor” is completely different. The thing is ps is an ems power, the only reason that personally believe he didn’t show it was cause he upgraded it right then and there like he was at the kage summit. While it doesn’t ever say this, it makes sense to me because we have no clue what madara did between gaining ems and rolling up on hashi with ps. Sasuke had about... a day or 2 real time before he went from ems to rinne? I think it takes a lil to manifest a ps the first time. Either way that’s my .02 on it. The evidence to me suggests more towards him being able to use it in ems than not. The scan your using of boruto is also kind of iffy cause that combo looks much more like sasukes “bijuu” susanoo combined with kurama than anything else, and was also born from a movie
You used a scan of sasuke using v3 to torch the zetsus because it has a jewel and scales, v4 has neither. So if your saying he didn’t use ps to
Cover kurama, and use a scan of v3 sasuke to show visual similarity, then your implying that he used v3 to cover kurama in the war. That makes no sense though cause he had v4, and v4 legged looks nothing like v3. We also don’t even know if it’s possible to even use susanoo like that without ps. It looks identical to when madara covered it with ps, so why would it be a diff version of susanoo?
Both Sasuke and Madara had Kyuubi on their side at this point. It was the most logical decision to merge PS with Kyuubi instead using PS alone since obviously Kyuubi + PS > PS by itself. Also about swords, Madara's v3 and v4 has this curved swords
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Now Sasuke's v3 legged susanoo was actually using it's arrows as the sword
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I thought everyone known that. Sasuke's PS swords :
You used a scan of sasuke using v3 to torch the zetsus because it has a jewel and scales, v4 has neither. So if your saying he didn’t use ps to
Cover kurama, and use a scan of v3 sasuke to show visual similarity, then your implying that he used v3 to cover kurama in the war. That makes no sense though cause he had v4, and v4 legged looks nothing like v3. We also don’t even know if it’s possible to even use susanoo like that without ps
No shit they look different, that’s literally why I said: “There’s levels to the Susano’o as you know and they can alter its forms.” And Sasuke clearly didn’t utilize V4 when he was standing next to Naruto and their chakra avatars merged, he was using V3. That’s why I showed you that V3 has a jewel AND the scales exactly like those that covered Kurama during the war arc. Your argument initially was “V4 doesn’t have a jewel” now it’s “V3 has a jewel but not V4.” Just to reiterate, I NEVER said that Sasuke had cloaked Sasuke with LEGGED Susano’o (V4) So idk where you got that from.
No shit they look different, that’s literally why I said: “There’s levels to the Susano’o as you know and they can alter its forms.” And Sasuke clearly didn’t utilize V4 when he was standing next to Naruto and their chakra avatars merged, he was using V3. That’s why I showed you that V3 has a jewel AND the scales exactly like those that covered Kurama during the war arc. Your argument initially was “V4 doesn’t have a jewel” now it’s “V3 has a jewel but not V4.” Just to reiterate, I NEVER said that Sasuke had cloaked Sasuke with LEGGED Susano’o (V4) So idk where you got that from.
Lmfao isn’t that what you assumed he did in Boruto? Okay then. Also, how come the one displayed in the war arc didn’t have the spikes on its helmet if it was PS?
Lmfao isn’t that what you assumed he did in Boruto? Okay then. Also, how come the one displayed in the war arc didn’t have the spikes on its helmet if it was PS?
No you just look for shit that isn’t there, the only thing I said about the boruto combo is that it’s iffy to use cause a.) it resembles sasukes bijuu susanoo he used in vote2 more than anything and b.) that entire design was derived from a movie.
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The only real differences are the colors, and madaras having 2 extra arms, which his ps has iirc compared to everyone elses