[VS] KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke
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If you had scrolled up and read, I wouldn’t have to but sure:
Exhibit A.) Sasuke’s perfect Susano’o:
Exhibit B.) Madara’s PS:
Main Attraction 1.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - war arc:
Main Attraction 2.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - Post War Arc/Boruto:
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Exhibit B.) Madara’s PS:
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Main Attraction 1.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - war arc:
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Main Attraction 2.) Naruto/Sasuke’s cloaked Susano’o - Post War Arc/Boruto:
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None of your scans are working for me
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but anyways...
If you guys are arguing about 2 different PS merges, in war arc and boruto movie/manga... Sasuke had originally 1 PS and the first one "standard" was used to cover Kurama in war arc. After using bijuu's chakra to power up his PS, he acquired second form. This second form however isn't hollow inside and requires something inside of it.
It was raiton chakra in his fight against Naruto. However in the boruto movie/manga we've seen that Sasuke still have that second humanoid looking form. This time, second humanoind looking PS was used to cover Kurama, as I said earlier, this form requires something inside, it was Kurama this time. My personal theory is that Kurama was standing and fighting on 2 legs this time, so Sasuke decided to use humanoid version to fit better.
Lmfao so not only are you not addressing anything, you’re trying to downplay as if you weren’t reaching for shit when you said the following:
I provided you proof from the Boruto manga itself and the movie (the same PS/Kurama were used in both adaptations) where SASUKE’s PS horns are present and you’re still “iffy” on the matter. That says that you’re not trying to be convinced otherwise. Doesn’t matter to me, I made my point regardless.
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Cause I’m not using a post series end movie to decide facts on the series itself. All I said about the boruto one was that it looks like sasukes bijuu susanoo, this is literally the 3rd time I’ve told you that and you’ve chosen to ignore. You claim they can “change the shape” of the susanoo but then go on about horns. By your own logic the horns don’t have to be there do they? Lol this is ridiculous dude, if you wanna think your right cool, makes no difference to me, enjoy the last word
@Bold That does make sense but alas, his Susano’o Helmet had horns on it meaning that it was using PS. The issue is, those guys were trying to compare Madara’s PS cloaking Kurama to Sasuke’s but not addressing the differences between the two. Similar to here, I posted the images on a different site:
Sasuke’s PS:
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Madara’s PS:
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Naruto/Sasuke Susano’o cloak Kurama - War arc:
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Naruto/Sasuke Susano’o cloaked Kurama post War arc-Boruto:
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As stated earlier, unless Sasuke was using Madara’s PS to cloak Kurama, spikes should’ve been present when he had cloaked Kurama in the war arc. Which means, Sasuke didn’t use PS to cloak Kurama in the war arc.
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Lmfao what a weak attempted asspull. I had said that the user could “change forms” (not shape) as in V2-V4 because you had said that “there’s no jewel and only PS has a jewel.” You made the mistake of assuming that I meant ‘Sasuke used Susano’o v4 to cloak Kurama’ when I’d never stated that at all. I’d proved you wrong then and I haven’t ceased since, especially coupled with the Boruto logic. Have a safe trip.
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Yes using boruto logic for Naruto Shippuden is indeed genius. Cool beans. Then what did he use?
I mean, of course there has to be some differences. Besides horns, Sasuke's PS also have this holes in it's face, Madara's doesn't. Now as for Madara's PS it has those clipped "hair" on each side of face, Sasuke's PS doesn't.
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Now for the Kurama merge, it doesn't have to resemble 100% the actual looking PS when it's stabilized by itself. You may ask why and in Boruto movie it was looking the exact same.
Indeed that's true
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Now as for why this version is looking exact same. I think it's because it was how to call it... "designed" to fit something. I mean during vote2 bijuu's chakra ripped through Sasuke's original PS back, wings, hands and filled it up and stayed there. So this version is basically already "pre-shaped" and is intended to be only worn as an armor and being fueled by something(raiton chakra it was during vote2 and kurama in movie) I think it can't operate by itself.
Now going back to original version. Original version is actually one solid mass, because of it, user has to manipulate shape by itself to make it fit bijuu. Because of it, it doesn't look 100% exact same as when it's stabilized by itself. It's intended to fit bijuu.
Now you were saying that Sasuke's PS has horns, but his merge didn't have it. Now look at Madara's original face features which are clipped hair.
Did his merge with kurama have hair?
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Lmfao fail. I used Boruto and Shippuden logic. Plus you’re the one trying to compare Madara’s PS to Sasuke’s when the former’s doesn’t have horns. Btw, did you notice that you still didn’t answer either of my questions that I posed to you earlier?
Lmfao and wow, you’re still not gone? So much for me having the “last word,” huh?
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What did he use to cover kurama? You said it wasn’t v3 earlier, then you just said it wasn’t v4 a couple posts ago, so what was it?
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Using Madara as an example, The extraneous features like the clipped hair do indeed disappear but the eye brows remain the same. Madara’s PS cloaked Kyuubi retained the “curled upward” eyebrows. Sasuke’s PS has 4 horns on its eyebrows which translated over to his Juubi form and into Boruto. Using that same logic, it’s obvious that the horns aren’t there for when he (Sasuke) cloaked Kurama during the war because he wasn’t in PS.
LMFAO WHAT A SURPRISE, dodging the questions AGAIN! Answer the damn questions rofl. Plus, you’re getting desperate and I can tell because you’re putting words in “mouth” that I’d never stated. This is the second time you’ve done that within these recent replies alone. But I’ll throw you a life line; quote where I’d stated that he didn’t use V3. I hope you can multitask.
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If your refuting him using v3,(which Still doesn’t make sense, as AGAIN, all I said about boruto is that it looks like sasukes bijuu susanoo, you assumed everything else you connected to that statement)your saying he didn’t use it, then you say he didn’t use v4. So I’m asking again, what did he use, since you seem to know for sure. I also find it odd your literal line of logic is “we didn’t see him use it before rinne, so he didn’t have it” when I can throw the same back at you with “we never see anything other than ps cover kurama, so the others can’t” your literally at a stalemate with your own logic at best. So.... enlighten me, what did he use? And honestly dude, as you can tell, I’m avoiding the preteen shit talking, it’d be awesome if you did as well. As I honestly believed he had ps at that moment, whether he awakened it right then or not, you can’t just ignore the similarities between both cloaked kuramas from shippuden. (The only reason I don’t use borutos combo is cause like I said, it’s designed from movie, and it’s after the fact that we see sasuke turn his ps into something that looked identical with raiton chakra, again, after the fact) so with sasukes normal
Ps looking extremely similar to everyone else’s bar madaras size and extra arms, it seems logical to say that the two extremely similar looking majestic attire kyuubi susanoos are using the same level susanoo. Especially when you factor in other things like both being transmigrants, both having ems, and oro saying he’d surpass madara. If madara could do it with ems why wouldnt sasuke be able to?
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Fail Nice asspull attempt though, refer to bold below. Also, I was refuting Sasuke using V3 in the Boruto scenario because he had/has Sasuke’s PS spikes on his helmet. Rofl you fail so ****ing hard. Now answer my questions.
Horns aren't there you're right, but you do realize you're literally picking 1 visual difference and making your claim based only on this 1 thing. Because on the other side, they're too many similarities - swords, diamond chamber where the user resides, shoulder pads, long tengu nose. As you can see, Kishi really doesn't have to draw it exact same, because he already draw enough similarities, so that an average reader can come to this conclusion.
Horns or hair may be the original features so their PS look different from each other, but when PS is used on Kurama, Kishi simply doesn't draw such small details. I mean he already made it clear enough didn't he?
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This was literally our exchange, I made the v3 comment on that scan from shippuden you showed, I’m still trying to figure out where you got I was claiming he used v3 in boruto from that. For the 5th time the only thing I said from boruto is that it looked like his bijuu susanoo, your more than welcome to pull up the quote where I said he used v3 in boruto. Like the 97 dude said, your clinging on to one thing in front of many others. And apparently, we where both wrong as we both thought v3 was v4 and vice versa. And again dude, I’m not trying to attack you here or be insulting, I have a conclusion that’s different than yours and we’re debating them, I’m kinda confused on where the animosity is coming from
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Uverdore9
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You should see that InfiniteMugen's posts.
You'll realize he's joking around dude didn't know the Yin and Yang seals which Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke were connected to each other.
You're wasting your time arguing with him, some sincere advice.