Obviously the same tier as Zoro and Luffy. Just that he and Zoro will be to Luffy what Marco is to Whitebeard. On his level, meaning he can hang with him and have a full fledged fight, but lost a majority of the time.
Yes he is. You have a dumb understanding of "Same level." Marco loses to Whitebeard more times than he wins, but he will push Whitebeard to high diff. Marco hung with Akainu, someone that outclassed Whitebeard at Marineford and received the same portrayal/hype as Shanks, another Emperor.
Same level as Luffy & Zoro. All top tiers are on the same level. Even Roger & Prime WB would have high diff against Kizaru, Fujitora, Rayleigh etc..
Sanji has never been on the same level as Luffy (he has always been a mid or mid-high diff fight for Luffy) and I doubt that will change by EoS. Also do you think that all top tiers high diff each other or extreme diff each other, because the latter would make no sense if you believe that Sanji and Luffy will be top tiers.
What makes you think Rayleigh is or was on a yonkou level ? After reading the latest chapters Yonkou are a step higher up the ladder than admirals.
Wait, so you don't believe admirals and yonkos are on the same level?
Hold his own? Kizaru was sweating bullets and gasping after a few minutes of clashing while Kizaru was perfectly fine. And Kizaru isn't a swordsman. That puts it into perspective how much weaker Rayleigh had gotten, since he had a terrible showing against Kizaru.
Yeah I don't. If someone like Big Mom has a skin that can only be harmed when she is in distress and Kaidou always wins in a 1 vs 1. Then my gut feeling says that they have some more impressive skills of pure power.
So are you implying Shanks = mihawk come on mate . Pretty ssure you will say shanks has no feats now . Zoro will never surpass Shanks its pretty much luffy who will do it by EOS .
There is no reason both Luffy and Zoro can't surpass Shanks. Surpass doesn't mean there's a large gap of power, it means they'd win in a fight, even if that's extreme diff.
This is a flawed argument, considering that Capone made the same comment(Can't be fazed by cannonfire) about his own defenses, and look where he stands. Kaido winning a 1 vs 1 is such an individual argument, you can't use that to say that puts Yonko above Admirals because that puts Kaido above the other Emperors. You can't use something that's unique to Kaido especially to make a joint statement about the other Emperors.
Again, this is an individual thing for Kaido. Doflamingo expressed glee at fighting an Emperor at Marineford, and was excited when Whitebeard showed up and was rocking the island, so by this same merit, Doflamingo is treating an Emperor like he did Admirals. Not to mention that Doflamingo had the same look of tension when attacking Fujitora that he did while fighting Luffy and while Law threatened him with Kaido.
Luffy can do it i guess dunno but about Zoro , i dont like people putting up Mihawk = Shanks ! Hmm if we look in that term i agree with that .
That is more or less my point, the yonkou are like once in a lifetime monsters (except that there are 4) that they outclass ''normal' people easily. Their individual traits make them what they are. Because WB was deemed the strongest, Kaidou never loses, Big Mom can't be hurt and Shanks could measure himself with the best Swordsman and maybe there is more.
Sabo beats doffy by feats. Doffy isn't beating blackbeards strongest commander, and Sabo no diff him. I'd say law is portrayed stronger by his room isn't working on zoro unless he cuts him, which I don't see happening so IMO zoro and Sabo take this.
You make me laugh. Luffy will be surpass all yonkos and become the pirate king, all while having one of the weakest fruits and having no special talent that the yonkos are born of that you made up. Hard work > anything else
If you think doffy can't beat burgess then I give the downplay of dofflamingo on this base is insane it almost rivals the overhyping of moss head
You can laugh all you want, but the only thing that is laughable is your reading capabilities.
My guy, idk what you're smoking but it must be something strong if you think Doffy can't beat Blackebeards commanders. Doffy on a good day (didn't fight anyone full energy) will wreck anyone in Blackbeards crew. He has all 3 Hakis, his devil fruit abilities are insane, he can heal himself, make clones that are strong As hell, his awakening is insanely strong, and so is his stamina and natural strength. He's so underrated on here it amazes me.
