[VS] Zoro vs Law | Sabo vs Doffy

[Uzumaki Macho]

How can rev is a joke ? We havent seen seen none of their fighters except Dragon and Sabo

If their 2nd strongest can't even beat someone who is on the same level or weaker than the 4th strongest of a Yonko crew, like some people here believe, then yes the RA is a joke.

 

[-Akuma-]

Law wins against Zoro on the lower end of high dif while Sabo beats Doffy med dif.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Sabo hasnt has shown any feat that doesnt mean he can held down on his own against doffy . I feel i am reading different manga now !! His fights were offpaneled and his opponent was Fujitora and he held on his own .

....Ok?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I didn't say that Zoro is currently stronger than Law. I said that he will eventually surpass Law

Again are you implying that zoro will surpass shanks since he is a swordsman as well since zoro is destined to be stronger then everyone that wields a sword, also does thst go fkr akoiji because there has been a lot of times he fought with a sword. And before you say oh thats hus devilfruit the same can be said with law his core strength comes mainly from his devil fruit and physical stamina . Also do you think zoro is destined to be above kizaru as well??

Point is law primary strength is not in his swordsfighting he does not even claim swordsman title like other swordsman in series like kaku Mihawk tashigi etc

Also becoming strongest swordsman why does that mean you have to be stringer then everyone who uses a sword (made from iron or light or ice makes no difference a sword is a sword)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

If their 2nd strongest can't even beat someone who is on the same level or weaker than the 4th strongest of a Yonko crew, like some people here believe, then yes the RA is a joke.

Qhy ars you shitting on doffy level everything that every commander has done doffy has replicated or done something better

Clashed with admiral he did and did not lose a limb
Had direct comparison to a whitehead commander the same who was able to fend off an admiral for period of time.
Has fought luffy and lost but difference is while he did not Last the longest no one can deny that luffy indeed tried the hardest and had to use his strongest attack to date to put him down
Showcased strength that makes luffy need help during the fight the only difference is with doffy luffy had his strongest ally and had village help him while he had to literally tap out of a fight just to keep going which is the first time luffy has needed to Do that ever

Stop down playing doffy feats he's easily commander level and is portrayed (along with his feats) that compares to first mate level

Which is something that def with out a doubt compares and surpasses by a large margin everything that sabo has accomplished so far
A fight between the two is far from mid diff for either party especially on doffy's end

 

[Shanks]

If their 2nd strongest can't even beat someone who is on the same level or weaker than the 4th strongest of a Yonko crew, like some people here believe, then yes the RA is a joke.

You came to conclusion before dragon and co power up yet to be introduced? Then if RA is joke Blackbeard wouldn't waste his time going after them then ?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Again are you implying that zoro will surpass shanks since he is a swordsman as well since zoro is destined to be stronger then everyone that wields a sword, also does thst go fkr akoiji because there has been a lot of times he fought with a sword. And before you say oh thats hus devilfruit the same can be said with law his core strength comes mainly from his devil fruit and physical stamina . Also do you think zoro is destined to be above kizaru as well??

Point is law primary strength is not in his swordsfighting he does not even claim swordsman title like other swordsman in series like kaku Mihawk tashigi etc

Also becoming strongest swordsman why does that mean you have to be stringer then everyone who uses a sword (made from iron or light or ice makes no difference a sword is a sword)

Yes Zoro will surpass Shanks. Idk why this is so hard to believe since Zoro is going surpass Mihawk too.

 

[Jaylord]

Yes Zoro will surpass Shanks. Idk why this is so hard to believe since Zoro is going surpass Mihawk too.

So are you saying that mihawk is a yonko level?

Law vs zoro- zoro can win this one in extreme diff or hard diff. Zoro can block the cut of law. He also has speed. Also law need stamina to do great attacks snd zoro have a lot of stamina.

In case of doffy and sabo i dont know yet. We dont see much for sabo

 

[OG sama]

Law seems stronger than Zoro right now, but I dont think Zoro has shown us his full power yet.

Sabo is lacking in feats, he had that clash with Fujitora that didn't really suggest anything, I felt like Fuji would have made Doffy look good to in that situation if he wasn't trying.

All in all Sabo is going to keep growing in strength while Doflamingos just going to be locked up until someone gets him out. So I'll give Sabo the edge.

 

[Love Cook]

Yes Zoro will surpass Shanks. Idk why this is so hard to believe since Zoro is going surpass Mihawk too.

Are you reading another series that we all do ? Have you not seen the power of a yonkou now ?

What a stupid crew would that be if in the end you would have Luffy, who obviously has to be stronger than a yonkou by then according to you, Zoro would be stronger than a yonkou according to you. And then you have Sanji and Jinbe who are also up there in power and if they don't want to be completely useless also together probably be as strong as a yonkou. If I would put both Sanji and Jinbe on half of Zoro's strength.

Don't you see how that is a giant power scaling problem ? You can't have that. Oda has been building up this world carefully for 20+ years and you think that Luffy will have the strength of at least 3 yonkou's in the end ? That's absurd.

I think the yonkou's are portrayed as monsters. Oda called them natural born destroyers. Maybe even Luffy will never be able to single handedly beat a yonkou. But he can still become a pirate king and have an overall stronger crew and armada following him.

So are you saying that mihawk is a yonko level?

Law vs zoro- zoro can win this one in extreme diff or hard diff. Zoro can block the cut of law. He also has speed. Also law need stamina to do great attacks snd zoro have a lot of stamina.

In case of doffy and sabo i dont know yet. We dont see much for sabo

How can Zoro block Law's cuts ? We've seen Law cutting through arguably the most impressive CoA feat so far. His cuts aren't physical and don't have to make contact, how do you block that if you're haki isn't at least as good as Law's ?

 

[Bimbonium]

How can rev is a joke ? We havent seen seen none of their fighters except Dragon and Sabo

The revs are supposed to be able to take on the WG, and since Sabo (supposedly the second strongest rev) vs Doflamingo is a valid argument, the the revs look like a joke, considering the fact that the admirals would mid diff (maybe high diff if you're a fan) Doffy.

Luffy pre time skip was able to topple down giants and buildings way bigger than a

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if not Thriller bark.

So a simple Haki third gear would do to break the small meteorite but in terms of escaping Room is more efficient but G2 Luffy is faster in reflexes and footspeed. So he can escape if he takes the matter a little more seriously then he actually does.

As for the meteor thing that was not G4 level, not even close. The power and speed in comparison to what Law has to offer is as different as night is to day, and Law recognizes that when he told cavendish that if G4 doesn't work against Doffy, then he'll die along side with Luffy.
That meteor was so small that Assimilated-Pica was bigger than that thing.

The room wasn't the size of the meteo, law needed the room to cut through the part coming towards him.
Luffy hasn't punched any thing as big as that, also the meteor is falling, not stationary like the Alabaster scenario.

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Putting that aside, g2 isn't faster than escaping via room which is literally teleporting), g2/g3 Luffy has no answer to Fujitora or Doffy.

Also, I already addressed the fact that law isn't the brute strength type, his feat on green bit is something that'll be difficult for any character that relies solely on brute strength to achieve, Luffy can't replicate that without going G4.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think Doflamingo wins from Sabo. Haven't seen that much from Sabo that makes me believe he is on or above Doffy's level. Let's not forget how much trouble it took for multiple people to take down Doflamingo. We have no idea if Sabo is vulnerable to parasite etc. Doffy has clones long and close range attacks. He tanks like a boss, he has all the haki. At this point I would give it to Doflamingo.

Law would win from Zoro with ease. Zoro has a history of not being able to figure out Devil Fruits and overcoming it with strength. That won't fly against Law. If Law would put up a room and scan for swords he can disarm Zoro. He can teleport himself and everything else within his own room. His cuts don't even have to connect to make a slice within the room. And the room is as big as a mountain. If Zoro decides to fight from outside the room, he won't be effective. And if he steps in he will be done very quick.

Pretty much.

Not really law is never considered a swordsman he's jusr a person who uses a sword by that logic zoro has to surpass shanks (because he uses a sword) and we all know that will not happen

Law is a considered a swordsman though.

A swordsman uses his sword as his primary style, Lawmonly uses it to swing and do sh!t with his fruit because it looks cooler than swinging an arm

His sword is a primary part of his fighting style though.

Again are you implying that zoro will surpass shanks since he is a swordsman as well since zoro is destined to be stronger then everyone that wields a sword,

Yeah, this isn't impossible.

also does thst go fkr akoiji because there has been a lot of times he fought with a sword.

Aokiji isn't a swordsman. He used an ice spike against weaklings, but never incorporated it into his fighting style when fighting high tiers. He doesn't use swords as a part of his main fighting style.

And before you say oh thats hus devilfruit the same can be said with law his core strength comes mainly from his devil fruit and physical stamina . Also do you think zoro is destined to be above kizaru as well??

Kizaru isn't a swordsman either.

Also becoming strongest swordsman why does that mean you have to be stringer then everyone who uses a sword (made from iron or light or ice makes no difference a sword is a sword)

Because according to Oda, it's "the most powerful swordsman in the world."

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[Rikudou Tobi]

The room wasn't the size of the meteo, law needed the room to cut through the part coming towards him. Luffy hasn't punched any thing as big as that, also the meteor is falling, not stationary like the Alabaster scenario.

Law's room was bigger than that meteorite, meteorites are really small if you didn't notice and law cut the whole meteorite in half. One half was heading towards doffy and the other half was heading towards Fujitori. Law was the first one to cut the whole thing in half.
Just look at the crater and it'll tell you the size of the meteorite. It was so

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and I've seen buildings and Moriah that are bigger than that little thing. Pre timeskip luffy would break that thing easily.

Alabaster is stationary, you are right. But you're wrong about him not punching anything bigger. Asgard Moria is way bigger than that small meteorite.

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Putting that aside, g2 isn't faster than escaping via room which is literally teleporting), g2/g3 Luffy has no answer to Fujitora or Doffy.

Law has no answer for doflamingo and fujitori so running is the only solution. Which gear two luffy can easily do since he's faster.
Did you forget that G3 luffy was able to tank some of Fujitori's strongest attacks that he's shown in dressrosa(not strongest attacks in his arsenal but just shown in dessrosa)? Which Law can't do?

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I don't even need to go over Doffy because Doffy can't take direct hits from G3 like that. He needed to avoid them or use his strongest defensive move spider web to block them. So G2/G3 has an answer. G2 is faster than them but G3 provides a better defense to keep up with fujitori and force Doffy to out maneuver such heavy attack.

Also, I already addressed the fact that law isn't the brute strength type, his feat on green bit is something that'll be difficult for any character that relies solely on brute strength to achieve, Luffy can't replicate that without going G4.

Luffy doesn't need G4 for any of that, G2/G3 is sufficient enough. All Law did was run away, even Moriah can use a better escape method than both Luffy and Law. So you can't bring up G4 for this brute strength or not, the difference in power, strength, and speed is as different as night is to day. They're not even in the same league. And you know that. Luffy does not need G4 to run away, you even know this and it's not purposed to run away for that matter either.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Are you reading another series that we all do ? Have you not seen the power of a yonkou now ?

What a stupid crew would that be if in the end you would have Luffy, who obviously has to be stronger than a yonkou by then according to you, Zoro would be stronger than a yonkou according to you. And then you have Sanji and Jinbe who are also up there in power and if they don't want to be completely useless also together probably be as strong as a yonkou. If I would put both Sanji and Jinbe on half of Zoro's strength.

Don't you see how that is a giant power scaling problem ? You can't have that. Oda has been building up this world carefully for 20+ years and you think that Luffy will have the strength of at least 3 yonkou's in the end ? That's absurd.

I think the yonkou's are portrayed as monsters. Oda called them natural born destroyers. Maybe even Luffy will never be able to single handedly beat a yonkou. But he can still become a pirate king and have an overall stronger crew and armada following him.



How can Zoro block Law's cuts ? We've seen Law cutting through arguably the most impressive CoA feat so far. His cuts aren't physical and don't have to make contact, how do you block that if you're haki isn't at least as good as Law's ?

If Prime Rayleigh can be admiral/yonko level then I don't see why Zoro can't reach that level. EoS Luffy will be PK level, EoS Zoro will be admiral/yonko level, and Sanji will be Yonko FM level.

 

[Skull Knight]

I don't think current Zoro has enough feats to beat Law.
Once we see Zoro unleashing Ashura then we can decide if he is on same lvl or above Law.

 

[Punk Hazard]

If Prime Rayleigh can be admiral/yonko level then I don't see why Zoro can't reach that level. EoS Luffy will be PK level, EoS Zoro will be admiral/yonko level, and Sanji will be Yonko FM level.

This man just took the same level and split it into three different titles like they ain't the same level.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

This man just took the same level and split it into three different titles like they ain't the same level.

Since when is Yonko FM level equal to admiral/yonko level?

Also what level do you think EoS Sanji will be at?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Since when is Yonko FM level equal to admiral/yonko level?

Also what level do you think EoS Sanji will be at?

Marco was hanging with Akainu who was hanging with Whitebeard who beat Blackbeard who was scared of Akainu and also scared of Shanks in the exact same way. You need Oda to spell it out for you more?

 

[Vandenre1ch]

If Prime Rayleigh can be admiral/yonko level then I don't see why Zoro can't reach that level. EoS Luffy will be PK level, EoS Zoro will be admiral/yonko level, and Sanji will be Yonko FM level.

PK & Yonko FM level doesn't exist. Its top tier & YC tier.....

No problem with Zoro being a top tier EoS...that is obvious but all these made levels is ridiculous.....

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

PK & Yonko FM level doesn't exist. Its top tier & YC tier.....

No problem with Zoro being a top tier EoS...that is obvious but all these made levels is ridiculous.....

So which tier do you think that Sanji will reach by the EoS?