RSM! (Yang Chakra Mode Theory)

[Michael]

We all know asura was no jinchuriki, so exactly how did he awaken a chakra mode similar to nine-tails chakra mode?

I believe he used his RSM along with his natural yang chakra to enter this peculiar chakra mode.

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Now doesn't it stand to reason after receiving hagoromo's Yang Chakra and awakening RSM, couldn't Naruto amass his own chakra and enter this mode?

This could explain how Naruto was in this chakra mode(same markings/symbols) during the last without kurama within. Kurama was outside Naruto completely fighting the statue guardian and Naruto was in his chakra mode.

People called it bs and others plot but when you think about it, everything makes sense. ​

 

[lndra]

In the flash back against Indra, he wasn't in a chakra mode. You can see his regular white garb.

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[Michael]

In the flash back against Indra, he wasn't in a chakra mode. You can see his regular white garb.

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Yeah, I know. He still summoned a giant chakra avatar similar to kurama in chakra mode.

 

[Amazeballs]

I believe that Naruto's unique Bijuu Mode appearance is related to the Seal placed on him, which causes the Kyuubi chakra to manifest itself as a "Chakra Mecha" rather than a flesh-and-blood Bijuu transformation whenever Naruto uses its chakra through the Seal. That's why before, when Naruto would risk going on a rampage and Kurama would slowly take over his body, Naruto's Bijuu transformation functioned like Bee's (and resulted in a bone/muscle Kyuubi that nearly became complete). It was only after Naruto mastered the Seal, and used Kurama's Chakra through it, that he gained a unique Bijuu Mode similar to Ashura's Chakra Mecha.

I used to think this reflected Naruto's (and/or Yang Kurama's) Yang qualities. However, Minato, a non-Uzumaki utilizing Yin Kurama, had a similar Bijuu Mode. These modes aren't a result of Kurama being split, because every time he's manifested outside of a Jinchuuriki since being split (either directly after being split, or after the Kaguya fight), Kurama has appeared normal. So it's obviously the Seal at work, through the Jinchuuriki, that gives Kurama this unique Bijuu Mode appearance.

I believe Naruto's Bijuu Mode transforming to fully obtain the "Ashura-style" markings is simply a result of Naruto adding even higher levels of Senjutsu, basically "filling-out" the design, which grows/strengthens with his own chakra. Going from Chakra Mode to Bijuu Mode added darker/thinker lines, adding insane levels of Senjutsu simply continued that process. It's the same reason that Kurama's tails swelled with chakra and essentially merged into a cape, similar to Ashura's Chakra Mecha.

So basically, all we know is that Ashura's Chakra, which works similar to a Susano'o, rather than a Bijuu, has an appearance similar to Naruto/Minato's Bijuu Mode... I would argue that the Uzumaki-syle Seal, which was passed along Ashura's Senju/Uzumaki descendants, carries with it the secrets of emitting Chakra in the same manner that Ashura once did. Basically, it allows one, with sufficient Chakra sealed, to utilize that Chakra to create a "Chakra Mecha" like Ashura.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

It makes sense.This explains why ashura had avatar mode even when he wasn't a jin.

 

[Michael]

I believe that Naruto's unique Bijuu Mode appearance is related to the Seal placed on him, which causes the Kyuubi chakra to manifest itself as a "Chakra Mecha" rather than a flesh-and-blood Bijuu transformation whenever Naruto uses its chakra through the Seal. That's why before, when Naruto would risk going on a rampage and Kurama would slowly take over his body, Naruto's Bijuu transformation functioned like Bee's (and resulted in a bone/muscle Kyuubi that nearly became complete). It was only after Naruto mastered the Seal, and used Kurama's Chakra through it, that he gained a unique Bijuu Mode similar to Ashura's Chakra Mecha.

I used to think this reflected Naruto's (and/or Yang Kurama's) Yang qualities. However, Minato, a non-Uzumaki utilizing Yin Kurama, had a similar Bijuu Mode. These modes aren't a result of Kurama being split, because every time he's manifested outside of a Jinchuuriki since being split (either directly after being split, or after the Kaguya fight), Kurama has appeared normal. So it's obviously the Seal at work, through the Jinchuuriki, that gives Kurama this unique Bijuu Mode appearance.

I believe Naruto's Bijuu Mode transforming to fully obtain the "Ashura-style" markings is simply a result of Naruto adding even higher levels of Senjutsu, basically "filling-out" the design, which grows/strengthens with his own chakra. Going from Chakra Mode to Bijuu Mode added darker/thinker lines, adding insane levels of Senjutsu simply continued that process. It's the same reason that Kurama's tails swelled with chakra and essentially merged into a cape, similar to Ashura's Chakra Mecha.

So basically, all we know is that Ashura's Chakra, which works similar to a Susano'o, rather than a Bijuu, has an appearance similar to Naruto/Minato's Bijuu Mode... I would argue that the Uzumaki-syle Seal, which was passed along Ashura's Senju/Uzumaki descendants, carries with it the secrets of emitting Chakra in the same manner that Ashura once did. Basically, it allows one, with sufficient Chakra sealed, to utilize that Chakra to create a "Chakra Mecha" like Ashura.

Interesting, I wish kishi would've explained more about asura. He should've made him kurama's jinchuriki instead of giving him similar powers without explanation.

 

[Warlocks]

yes his own so6p Yang Chakra should let him enter this mode

in my opinion

 

[BlacLord™]

Yeah, I know. He still summoned a giant chakra avatar similar to kurama in chakra mode.

Probably using Yin-Yang.

Yin to create form, Yang to breathe life into said form. Hence the TSB.

 

[Michael]

Probably using Yin-Yang.

Yin to create form, Yang to breathe life into said form. Hence the TSB.

Yeah but don't you find it weird it looks exactly like kurama, same symbols and all?

 

[Dantee]

Stupid theory from a stupid member

 

[Michael]

Stupid theory from a stupid member

Dantool my boy, happy holidays.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Firstly, as @Indra pointed out, Ashura wasn't in any chakra mode, he probably didn't have any. He could only manifest the Avatar. So the title (the basis of this thread) is not right to begin with. But that's not a major issue though.

Ashura's Avatar could be something similar to what you're saying, probably related to Ashura's Yang chakra, but it is neither a chakra mode extension nor is it RSM. Because Ashura can't have RSM on his own, not possible. You need two separate chakras to activate and deactivate RSM, and one of them has to be Rikodou Senjutsu chakra. And Ashura didn't have two separate chakras, not without Hagoromo giving the Rikodou Senjutsu chakra to him. If that's objectionable, then Ashura doesn't have RSM is the automatic conclusion.

Ashura received Hagoromo's Yang chakra and awakened RSM but Indra received Hagoromo's Yin chakra and couldn't attain Rinnegan? Makes no sense. Logically, it shouldn't be RSM. Practically, it can't be RSM.

And Naruto amassing his chakra, as you're referring to, also isn't possible in light of the above explanation and conclusion that Ashura doesn't have RSM.

BTW, being a jinchuuriki was never the condition to release a chakra mode in the first place. So how did he awaken a "Chakra Mode" isn't intriguing, it is actually, but not because he wasn't a jinchuuriki. The real factor of consideration is how and why was his Avatar exactly the same as Naruto's Kurama Avatar.

And the entire The Last movie is pretty unreliable to make any assumptions or derivations with. So I wouldn't count that in. And nothing made sense in The Last. How TF could Sasuke fly? How TF could BSM Naruto fly? Why TF couldn't Naruto break genjutsu?

 

[Jokule67]

Its because Kurama is special. He is different from the other tailed beasts.

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[Insidious Smile]

Stupid theory from a stupid member

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[VongolaX]

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The cloak naruto has isn't strictly from the kyuubi. It's the chakra of an Ashura incarnate with the kyuubi.
Kyuubi's original real cloak looks like this:

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And I know MInato's is some weird sh*t thing he got from the Torii seal

 

[Jokule67]

Firstly, as @Indra pointed out, Ashura wasn't in any chakra mode, he probably didn't have any. He could only manifest the Avatar. So the title (the basis of this thread) is not right to begin with. But that's not a major issue though.

Ashura's Avatar could be something similar to what you're saying, probably related to Ashura's Yang chakra, but it is neither a chakra mode extension nor is it RSM. Because Ashura can't have RSM on his own, not possible. You need two separate chakras to activate and deactivate RSM, and one of them has to be Rikodou Senjutsu chakra. And Ashura didn't have two separate chakras, not without Hagoromo giving the Rikodou Senjutsu chakra to him. If that's objectionable, then Ashura doesn't have RSM is the automatic conclusion.

Ashura received Hagoromo's Yang chakra and awakened RSM but Indra received Hagoromo's Yin chakra and couldn't attain Rinnegan? Makes no sense. Logically, it shouldn't be RSM. Practically, it can't be RSM.

And Naruto amassing his chakra, as you're referring to, also isn't possible in light of the above explanation and conclusion that Ashura doesn't have RSM.

BTW, being a jinchuuriki was never the condition to release a chakra mode in the first place. So how did he awaken a "Chakra Mode" isn't intriguing, it is actually, but not because he wasn't a jinchuuriki. The real factor of consideration is how and why was his Avatar exactly the same as Naruto's Kurama Avatar.

And the entire The Last movie is pretty unreliable to make any assumptions or derivations with. So I wouldn't count that in. And nothing made sense in The Last. How TF could Sasuke fly? How TF could BSM Naruto fly? Why TF couldn't Naruto break genjutsu?

Ashura indeed has RSM and it doesnt recquire two chakras. It uses Six Path Power in conjunction with Senjutsu. We already know that both of these are powers on the body side thats why Naruto has them. Its safe to say Ashura had these as well considering Naruto copied him just as Sasuke deliberately copied Indras Arrow.

And as for the Last we could easily say he merged Six Path Power with his chakra mode(not bijuu) in order to fly and combat another RSM user( Toneri). Theres a novel that even says this and it makes complete sense. Six Paths Kyuubi Chakra Mode. He never used bijuu mode cuz Kurama was outsude of him.

And we ALREADY know the conditions for Rinnegan. Ashura+Indra chakras=Rinnegan. Thats how Madara awakened his. Indra would have to steal Ashuras power but he never did. Only Madara got the idea from the stone tablet later in history.

 

[Michael]

Firstly, as @Indra pointed out, Ashura wasn't in any chakra mode, he probably didn't have any. He could only manifest the Avatar. So the title (the basis of this thread) is not right to begin with. But that's not a major issue though.

Ashura's Avatar could be something similar to what you're saying, probably related to Ashura's Yang chakra, but it is neither a chakra mode extension nor is it RSM. Because Ashura can't have RSM on his own, not possible. You need two separate chakras to activate and deactivate RSM, and one of them has to be Rikodou Senjutsu chakra. And Ashura didn't have two separate chakras, not without Hagoromo giving the Rikodou Senjutsu chakra to him. If that's objectionable, then Ashura doesn't have RSM is the automatic conclusion.

Ashura received Hagoromo's Yang chakra and awakened RSM but Indra received Hagoromo's Yin chakra and couldn't attain Rinnegan? Makes no sense. Logically, it shouldn't be RSM. Practically, it can't be RSM.

And Naruto amassing his chakra, as you're referring to, also isn't possible in light of the above explanation and conclusion that Ashura doesn't have RSM.

BTW, being a jinchuuriki was never the condition to release a chakra mode in the first place. So how did he awaken a "Chakra Mode" isn't intriguing, it is actually, but not because he wasn't a jinchuuriki. The real factor of consideration is how and why was his Avatar exactly the same as Naruto's Kurama Avatar.

And the entire The Last movie is pretty unreliable to make any assumptions or derivations with. So I wouldn't count that in. And nothing made sense in The Last. How TF could Sasuke fly? How TF could BSM Naruto fly? Why TF couldn't Naruto break genjutsu?

Its manga and databook fact asura has RSM. Infact only Naruto, Asura and Hagoromo are listed as RSM users.

Ashura indeed has RSM and it doesnt recquire two chakras. It uses Six Path Power in conjunction with Senjutsu. We already know that both of these are powers on the body side thats why Naruto has them. Its safe to say Ashura had these as well considering Naruto copied him just as Sasuke deliberately copied Indras Arrow.

And as for the Last we could easily say he merged Six Path Power with his chakra mode(not bijuu) in order to fly and combat another RSM user( Toneri). Theres a novel that even says this and it makes complete sense. Six Paths Kyuubi Chakra Mode. He never used bijuu mode cuz Kurama was outsude of him.

And we ALREADY know the conditions for Rinnegan. Ashura+Indra chakras=Rinnegan. Thats how Madara awakened his. Indra would have to steal Ashuras power but he never did. Only Madara got the idea from the stone tablet later in history.

I see, nice post.

 

[FreeTanner17]

I still stand by that ashura was a jinchuriki. Especially because his mode looks exactly like kuramas bijuu mode and we haven't seen anybody else use it besides naruto

 

[NarutoX28]

Ashura indeed has RSM and it doesnt recquire two chakras. It uses Six Path Power in conjunction with Senjutsu. We already know that both of these are powers on the body side thats why Naruto has them. Its safe to say Ashura had these as well considering Naruto copied him just as Sasuke deliberately copied Indras Arrow.

The issue arises when Asura doesn't have Six Paths Power, he simply has a component of Hagoromo's Chakra.

 

[Michael]

I still stand by that ashura was a jinchuriki. Especially because his mode looks exactly like kuramas bijuu mode and we haven't seen anybody else use it besides naruto

Asura wasn't a jinchuriki, that was already established.

The issue arises when Asura doesn't have Six Paths Power, he simply has a component of Hagoromo's Chakra.

Asura had six paths senjutsu. As hagoromo's son, he inherited his fathers body.