[Discussion] is g4 needed to beat zoro?

[CrimsonReaper]

Luffy never beat Hancock, it the opposite, Hancock one shot Luffy when he tried to run.

the fanboyism is strong with this one. :lol


even i a hancock fan find this absolute bullshit. :lol

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

the fanboyism is strong with this one. :lol


even i a hancock fan find this absolute bullshit. :lol

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[lelerskates]

And here comes the irrational Zoro wankers. Well, since your reading comprehension is almost as shit as your manga comprehension I ought to explain these things in a way that your tiny, tiny, pea-brain would be able to understand.

Zoro's greatest feat was 11.5 MT which is nearly 100x less destructive than Luffy in Gear 4th. Please, with his current feats your beloved Zoro gets low-mid diffed by Gear 4th. This entire thread has come to that extremely obvious consensus. Only with extremely generous Asura wank would he reach high diff. Extreme? Not on your life. You're the sole fap-boy who, according to his fanatical fantasies, believes Zoro can even attempt to combat Gear 4th. Also, simply because you're brain-dead and unable to do simple math doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. You simply wish to deny the validity of calculations because you either A) cannot understand them, or B) they make your hero Zoro look bad. Either way it doesn't matter because your argument is ill of holes much like your brain.

Further more, you have almost triple as many posts on here as I do and while knowing nothing about me has claimed I have no life solely because I debunked your favored claim concerning a manga you like. Which one of use has no life? Lol, please go cry in your corner over Zoro's lack of feats. He is factually weaker than Luffy and everyone knows it.

Again. Show me where Zoro showed he was seriously fighting post timeskip. I'm still waiting. You name call like a little girl. You sound like youre not loved. Get off the forums and go get some fresh air lol.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You name call like a little girl. .

That's racist.

 

[Main I]

Again. Show me where Zoro showed he was seriously fighting post timeskip. I'm still waiting. You name call like a little girl. You sound like youre not loved. Get off the forums and go get some fresh air lol[\B].

Says the Jonin rank guy with nearly three times as many posts as I do. I think that's your default insult because you lack the brain scoring it to actually come up with something I haven't heard 11 years old sling around. Not to mention your argument is in a body bag. Your precious love Zoro is getting low-diffed by current feats. He doesn't need to go all out to know he's not even in Luffy's league. As I said, if this was Zoro's full power he'd get low-diffed by Gear 4th. Mid-high if we wank this full power you speak of. You are a fodder debater. Do not engage me again. ????????????

 

[keshav31]

Re: what difficulty does luffy best these characters

zoro
law
jinbei
sanji
hancock

Can't say as we haven't seen these character going all out.

 

[-Akuma-]

Zoro isn't beating Luffy, even if he doesn't have G4. Though Zoro's DC is higher than Luffy's without G4.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Luffy beats law the same way Doffy stomped him if he uses g4
Luffy would high diff Zoro without g4 and with g4 he stomps
Jinbei would be high diff using g4 Luffy would win tho
And Sanji gets stomped by g2 he hasn't shown enough got completely stomped by Doffy who was really playing
Hancock is another hard match up for Luffy but with g4 he wins mid diff

 

[chopstickchakra]

Re: what difficulty does luffy best these characters

Can't say as we haven't seen these character going all out.

We've pretty much seen Law go all out.

 

[keshav31]

Re: what difficulty does luffy best these characters

We've pretty much seen Law go all out.

He can't win against luffy

 

[A v i]

Not sure about striking speed but Luffy's base reaction speed feats absolutely dwarf Zoro's unless you want to include his plothole FTL reactions pre time skip vs Kuma. Destructive Capacity is immensely in Luffy's favor as well. His King Kong Gun was calced at 1.5 gigatons. That's small island level. Zoro's greatest feat in the series' history was his Daisen Sekai against Pica which doesn't even remotely compare.

@Bold: Is that supposed to be a reason to say that Zoro lacks reactions compared to Luffy?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

And Sanji gets stomped by g2 he hasn't shown enough got completely stomped by Doffy who was really playing

Yeah, g3 can't hit sanji due the speed, luffy would only stand a chance against the speed with either g2 or g4
Lml sanji not getting stomped by g2, he ties or wins. G3 is completely useless with sanji's mobility



Lmao the hate is real

 

[Punk Hazard]

Wait people actually think Zoro had FTL reaction speed pre-skip?

 

[Main I]

@Bold: Is that supposed to be a reason to say that Zoro lacks reactions compared to Luffy?

What? Zoro has no comparable reaction speed feats whatsoever besides that one which is a completely illogical and ridiculous outlier that is frankly just a plothole. If Zoro ever showcases any remotely comparable feats that are actually legitimate then one can argue whether or not his reaction speed is on par with Luffy's. Now? It's not even a topic worth debating.

 

[LitzSabr]

What? Zoro has no comparable reaction speed feats whatsoever besides that one which is a completely illogical and ridiculous outlier that is frankly just a plothole. If Zoro ever showcases any remotely comparable feats that are actually legitimate then one can argue whether or not his reaction speed is on par with Luffy's. Now? It's not even a topic worth debating.

I think you are underestimating zoro's reaction speed here. There was a comment earlier about 13 machs too. CP9 members have all been calc to be above a hundred mach and Zoro fought and held up against Kaku who was attacking zoro with that kind of speed from FOUR points at once. No big arguments but had to make a point, his reaction speed is way higher than you are estimating it to be. I mean, even fodders like Buffalo in the New World, who even kyros took care of in a second, have hypersonic reactions.

 

[-Akuma-]

I think you are underestimating zoro's reaction speed here. There was a comment earlier about 13 machs too. CP9 members have all been calc to be above a hundred mach and Zoro fought and held up against Kaku who was attacking zoro with that kind of speed from FOUR points at once. No big arguments but had to make a point, his reaction speed is way higher than you are estimating it to be. I mean, even fodders like Buffalo in the New World, who even kyros took care of in a second, have hypersonic reactions.

I mean that still doesn't make his reactions better than Luffy's.

 

[LitzSabr]

I mean that still doesn't make his reactions better than Luffy's.

It's close either way. Though many other factors come into play during a fight, it's considering all(many bogard even said) I placed current him above G4less luffy. And that Doesn't mean that his future Asura will be above luffy's G4 too.

 

[-Akuma-]

It's close either way. Though many other factors come into play during a fight, it's considering all(many bogard even said) I placed current him above G4less luffy. And that Doesn't mean that his future Asura will be above luffy's G4 too.

I mean, all Zoro trumps Luffy in is DC so I don't know how he wins.

 

[LitzSabr]

I mean, all Zoro trumps Luffy in is DC so I don't know how he wins.

Possibly better arnament, higher endurance, much stronger and more lethal attacks, comparable reaction speed, comparable striking speed(generated 5 of those mountain level slashes near simultaneously). Luffy has areas where he is better too, more speed, possibly better CoO, more verstile. I myself would give zoro the edge but even if someone picks luffy it can't be denied that it would be a close call.

 

[-Akuma-]

Possibly better arnament, higher endurance, much stronger and more lethal attacks, comparable reaction speed, comparable striking speed(generated 5 of those mountain level slashes near simultaneously). Luffy has areas where he is better too, more speed, possibly better CoO, more verstile. I myself would give zoro the edge but even if someone picks luffy it can't be denied that it would be a close call.

Endurance is arguable, in general G2/G3 Luffy has the stronger attacks only Zoro's strongest attacks are much more lethal. Luffy has the faster striking speed, faster reaction and movement speed. Zoro's Sanzen Sekai was not mountain level and they were nowhere simultaneous, if it really came down to it I would say Luffy edges him out no lower than high-dif.