[Discussion] is g4 needed to beat zoro?

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Now there is someone with common sense.

Luffy's personality made him almost lose to Monet.
Luffy's personality made him lose to Caesar Clown.
Luffy's personality made him get wrecked by Bellamy.
Luffy's personality made a Doflamingo clone almost kill him.

Whoever says personality doesn't have an effect on combat is ludicrous.

Hell, personality is what got Ace killed.
Whoever says Luffy won't take Zoro seriously is ludicrous.
 

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Oh really? He seemed to go at at him at 100% Whiskey Peak but that's none of my business.
That Luffy is not the same Luffy here, Luffy took care of fodder who came at him back then like Mr.5
Also that Luffy wasn't much stronger than Zoro if at all but this one is atleast twice as strong.
 

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That Luffy is not the same Luffy here, Luffy took care of fodder who came at him back then like Mr.5
Also that Luffy wasn't much stronger than Zoro if at all but this one is atleast twice as strong.

Luffy has not changed in the way he handles fights at all, Luffy took out Mr. 5 right off the bat because he was already pissed from fighting Zoro. If you think Luffy without G4 is at least twice as strong as current Zoro you're delusional.
 

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Luffy has not changed in the way he handles fights at all, Luffy took out Mr. 5 right off the bat because he was already pissed from fighting Zoro. If you think Luffy without G4 is at least twice as strong as current Zoro you're delusional.
i think he meant with gear 4th included and i agree as well.. at least until we see more from zoro (mainly asura) and before someone says well we havent seen all zoro can do that tech goes for everyone cuz as long as they r getting screen time oda can potentially make each and every char grow....
 

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i think he meant with gear 4th included and i agree as well.. at least until we see more from zoro (mainly asura) and before someone says well we havent seen all zoro can do that tech goes for everyone cuz as long as they r getting screen time oda can potentially make each and every char grow....
We've literally been talking about G4less Luffy. Saying Luffy without G4 wouldn't take Zoro out of all people seriously is a bad joke.
 

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By hype? What hype? I always hear people saying ashura zoro is either stronger or equal to g4, so can I ask what hype is that?
Because luffy unlocked gears around time Sanji did hells memories and zoro Asura

So if luffy elevates his gears it is good chance both Sanji and zoro have achieved stronger versions of those forms as well... Even if not their bodies and strength increased dramatically over time skip so both modes should b stronger as well


Logically speaking luffy would need gear 3 to beat zoro and gear 2nd to outpace him etc .. But if zoro uses Asura he would have to use g4th or at least use gear 2 and observation to max to avoid it...


With Sanji luffy needs gear 2nd to keep up with his speed gear 3rd won't really hit Sanji (if he dodges all time) but Sanji doesn't have enough damage output in his regular form to put down luffy mind go through his haki so hells memories is needed... In order for luffy to contend with this I believe he will have to use gear 4th to out speed Sanji (in hells memories) as well as overpower him...
 
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