Uzumaki Macho
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If he could do that why would he not use it against Teach when he knew that if he lost he would either be killed or be turned in and cause a war between the Marines and WB.
[Discussion] Ace >luffy
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Yeah I forgot about him but still you never know I don't think we've quite seen the full potential of the Mera Mera No Mi.
I don't see how it's common knowledge there is no indication at all that Gear 2nd Luffy is faster than Ace. Unless you have proof to back that claim up it's a baseless opinion.
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Not quite how I remember it was. Not that impressive, but it is what it is. Unless that gives him some major boosts now and increases his stats, depends on how well he can use it, it wouldn't really help him. So as of now, Luffy hasn't shown anything to say that he can beat Ace.
This is different from combining 2 Gears. No new method required. To Ace that is throwing a regular punch using his DF just like Luffy throws using his Gumo gomu. Stamina for it also isnt a problem for Ace.
Do nawt ignore the rest of the argument.
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I m an Ass
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you're telling me that whitebeard didn't need speed to fight the most fastest person in the one piece world huh ???
Uzumaki Macho
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If Ace was faster than G2 Luffy then why didn't he grab Luffy and dodge Akainu's attack. I mean Akainu wasn't even moving that fast. Also, why didn't he show any of this tremendous speed against BB? I can tolerate people saying Ace had Haki, but seriously? Saying he can outspeed Luffy is just plain retarded.
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WTF are you even talking about now? His attack covers an entire island, Kizaru cant dodge that since he would have to go into the water to escape that attack, and that wouldn't end well for him.
I m an Ass
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do you know that if whitbeard didn't have speed he would be blitzed by kizaru ?
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[video=youtube;wkqZU0DoNs4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkqZU0DoNs4[/video]
He did blitz WB. But WB counters that by having the best durability in the series.
Ace didn't grab Luffy for the same reason Marco never jumped in to help Ace for plot. Ace was able to get in front of Akainu and take a hit for Luffy. Ace wanted to protect Luffy I doubt his thoughts were at that moment I need to get Luffy out of here it was more like I need to stop Akainu hitting my little brother.
Luffy used gear second on Blackbeard yet Blackbeard caught Luffy the same way he caught Ace. Also Ace had Haki I'm assuming you mean CoA then because Ace actually had Kings Haki.
I m an Ass
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this video was your downfall you contradict yourself in so many ways
-you can see that he can keep u whit kizaru's speed in the beginning its just at the end he wants to save ace
and his attacks didn't have to cover an island like you said
- you even helped me by showing an injurd whitbeard
-you don't know the meanig of blitzing
Uzumaki Macho
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It doesn't matter if WB was healthy, he lost his CoO and couldn't prepare for Kizaru's attack. WB was not distracted when Kizaru shot that first laser through his body.
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Plot is what decides a character's speed so saying "because of plot" isn't a good argument.
I m an Ass
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at this point you're just being a troll
Kizaru behind the back of whitebeard: "i didnt expect you to be hit by that one", The fastest guy in the one piece world was surprised that Whitebeard could not dodge such an attack meaning that he normally would ,the reason for that was because he was distracted by ace execution and on top of that his injuries didnt make life easier for him.And about the other one he was attacking Kizaru without thinking,because Kizaru made him mad "that's why kizaru said your your guard was down" its almost like it was 1 in a million chance to hit him, in other words he was just lucky
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Says the guy who thinks Ace is faster than Luffy. Do you know nothing about Kizaru? He likes to troll. You seriously need to think about a character's personality before you post, he was trying to annoy WB. He did expect WB to get hit
Uzumaki Macho
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I think Ace is still slightly(or more?) stronger. The marines were puting Ace on a higher pedestal than Luffy lately. When Luffy will surpass him(likely by the end of this arc), Oda will leave a hint
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