Would Sasuke Be a Better Jinchurkin then Naruto?

[TrollingSage]

Sorry, but I love how you completely ignored the 'Sealing Portion' as well. That chakra statement is very general and doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Nor has she even stated that ALL 'Uzumakis' are capable of this. The fact that Kushina were chosen from many others proves you wrong.

Yes, because Senju = Uzumaki, clearly. Loved the assumptions part. Icing on the cake.

I didnt ignore it. It was completely irrelevant and an assumption as well. Being able to seal the tailed beast is a non factor since the jinchuriki doesnt necesarily have to do the sealing themselves. Kushina said plainly that she was chosen because of her chakra. Anything else is an assumption.

 

[Touken]

Didn't deny it, but to lump Uzumakis together without reason as to why it was so in the first place is fallacy. You are reading too much into it. Uzumakis are famous for their seals and Kurama's is obviously, different. Kurama could have been offered to any other country as well, but Hashirama CHOSE to keep it for political leverage.

Now if I go by your logic, the other countries would have to import Uzumakis for making Jinchurickis out of them? Hardly practical or reasonable. Anyone can become the host of the Bijuus, provided they have decent chakra reserves and body. If Obito can become the host of ten-tails - as I explained - without having any Uzumaki Dna, then this theory is quite wrong.

Excuse me? I'm reading too much into it?

Only Uzumaki can successfully become the jinchuuriki of Kurama, as established in the manga. No other shinobi has chakra reserves as massive as the Uzumaki, except for Senju.

Obito has Senju DNA.

Now what the balls are you talking about? Konoha hasn't had to bring loads of Uzumaki in because they have extraordinary long lives.

 

[Transcendence]

only uzumaki can become bijju's host?
B!tch please , two uchiha in the manga want to become juubi's perfect jinchuriki ..

GG tards.

Sasuke would tame the kyuubi and make him his pet in no time, look what he did with those snakes, they started calling him "lord" .

Laughable. Both those "Uchiha" who in essence are actually half Senju now, can only do so because of the Hashirama DNA they implanted. With out it, they wouldn't be able to.

OT: No. He wouldn't be able to so with Kurama. He'd probably be able to handle, maybe Gyuki, but Kurama is too much for his body.

 

[Monkey D Luigi]

Madara was never a jinchuriki he tamed the Kyuubi as a summoning so did obito and to be jinchuriki of kurama you need strong chakra or kyuubi we go lose a the first sec you be jinchuriki. Obito tamed kyuubi with help from madara beacuse he wasn't the normal crybaby obito he was a zetsu. So Sasuke cant handle kyuubi PEACE=D

 

[shelke]

I didnt ignore it. It was completely irrelevant and an assumption as well. Being able to seal the tailed beast is a non factor since the jinchuriki doesnt necesarily have to do the sealing themselves. Kushina said plainly that she was chosen because of her chakra. Anything else is an assumption.

Read the rest of my post, as it seems to have eluded your gaze. Or the one I posted for someone else. Your points about uzumaki somehow being the same as Senju is not even an assumption, it's THAT far-fetched. Kushina is a single person chosen from her entire clan - bar Mito - and the fact that she doesn't use the term 'Uzumaki' but 'I' says a lot. Learn to comprehend. You are known for nit-picking.

Excuse me? I'm reading too much into it?

Only Uzumaki can successfully become the jinchuuriki of Kurama, as established in the manga. No other shinobi has chakra reserves as massive as the Uzumaki, except for Senju.

Obito has Senju DNA.

Now what the balls are you talking about? Konoha hasn't had to bring loads of Uzumaki in because they have extraordinary long lives.

Who told you that? Kisame and Ae have Bijuu level Chakra reserves. In fact, Ae was using Bijuu level reserves just for his V2 armour - Karin confirms it. Prove to me that Naruto's base reserves even compare. Uzumaki's are known for distinct Life-Force whereas it's the Senju which are known for more Chakra reserves or the body. Naruto, isn't even an Uzumaki, as not only was his father is not from the Clan, but he LACKS the physicals traits of an Uzumaki completely. He's a Hybrid. Hizuren chose to conceal his lineage to fourth, which wasn't known to the majority of village. But that is another matter altogether.

Show me proof that Kushina said that Uzumaki are fit to become Nine Tails Jinchurikis? Show me manga proof that this powerful life-force argument is somehow present in Senju, when a couple of you are completely making this up when clearly Senju and Uzumaki are not the same thing and Naruto is not even a pure Uzumaki. Also, Naruto was NEVER chosen to be a Jinchuriki. A single one would do. Prove to me that Kurama was not kept as a political leverage. Only then you are right and I am wrong.

 

[Osagyefo]

Missed this thread watching Ghana solo Egypt l0l but I'm still here nonetheless

A jinchuriki is someone, who has a tailed beast sealed inside of him, and for a person to become one, he needs to have have high chakra reserve.

To become the Kyuubi's jinchuriki one has to have high chakra reserves and a strong life force, as seen in the case of Mito, Kushina and Naruto. We should note that controlling Kyuubi with the sharingan does not make one a jinchuriki.

To your question Smd, Sasuke could become a jinchuriki, but not a better one at it than naruto, simply because he does not posses a strong body, or has high chakra level as compared to Naruto, He would not be able to perfectly harmonise with Kurama, which Naruto has, and utilise BM from what we've seen so far in the manga.

PS: Obito and Madara, are exceptions, because they posses Senju DNA, making them a hybrid of Senju and Uchiha, hence them being able to host the ten-tails.

Hope this helps =D

 

[BlackBison]

Before I go into my thoughts on this topic, i just have to point out something that people seem to forget.

Obito has a half a body of weakened hashirama chakra because half his body is made up of zetsu. Zetsu is a much weaker form of hashirama chakra. Do people really think that makes a big difference in obito becoming the juubi jin.

Now sasuke would not make a better jin than naruto because naruto is the only jin who fully understands kurama. No other jin before understood kurama like naruto.

Also, just because madara never became kurama jin doesn't mean he couldn't since thats like saying hashirama couldn't become kurama jin because why make mito kurama jin. That kind of logic doesn't pan out right.

 

[Sot6p]

Who told you that? Kisame and Ae have Bijuu level Chakra reserves. In fact, Ae was using Bijuu level reserves just for his V2 armour - Karin confirms it. Prove to me that Naruto's base reserves even compare. Uzumaki's are known for distinct Life-Force whereas it's the Senju which are known for more Chakra reserves or the body. Naruto, isn't even an Uzumaki, as not only was his father is not from the Clan, but he LACKS the physicals traits of an Uzumaki completely. He's a Hybrid. Hizuren chose to conceal his lineage to fourth, which wasn't known to the majority of village. But that is another matter altogether.

Show me proof that Kushina said that Uzumaki are fit to become Nine Tails Jinchurikis? Show me manga proof that this powerful life-force argument is somehow present in Senju, when a couple of you are completely making this up when clearly Senju and Uzumaki are not the same thing and Naruto is not even a pure Uzumaki. Also, Naruto was NEVER chosen to be a Jinchuriki. A single one would do. Prove to me that Kurama was not kept as a political leverage. Only then you are right and I am wrong.

You're skipping things completely.
"Chakra reserve" isn't what you're thinking. Stamina is Physical Energy/Spiritual Energy(as stated in part 1). You produce chakra from stamina.
Imagine Naruto in part 1. He barely could produce chakra, but he had insane stamina. He couldn't produce it very well, which made him have VERY little of it. Like what we saw when he climbed trees. He fell. Not enough chakra.
When the show begun, Naruto couldn't produce chakra. Even Sakura could probably do it more. But his stamina was bigger than Shippuden Sasuke.


Body = Physical Energy (from cells, as stated in part 1)
Senju = strong body
Uzumaki = strong body.
It was said that Senju and Uzumaki are related, but that's it. They aren't the same. Just related.

 

[TrollingSage]

Missed this thread watching Ghana solo Egypt l0l but I'm still here nonetheless

Was really beautiful wasn't it. Shame I missed the first half.

 

[shelke]

You're skipping things completely.
"Chakra reserve" isn't what you're thinking.
Body = Physical Energy (from cells, as stated in part 1)
Senju = strong body
Uzumaki = strong body.
It was said that Senju and Uzumaki are related, but that's it. They aren't the same. Just related.

It translates into multiple things, I am aware. Uzumakis having strong Life-forces is not a term used for anyone other than an Uzumaki. Which means it's a feature exclusive to them. Yes, they are 'Distant Relatives'. So, correct.

 

[Jcub]

With his hatered/revenge issues. Sasuke would have given in to the hatred that Kurama pours out, first time seeing Itachi would have been his end. Think of all the inner dialog that he and Naruto had, even Naruto gave in a several points. Think how much Sasuke would not have resisted.

 

[Retsu]

Kurama would have taken him over long ago, on part 1, sasuke has too much hate inside him and due to that he would never be a viable jinchuuriki.

 

[Osagyefo]

Was really beautiful wasn't it. Shame I missed the first half.

Yeah, and this back four wasn't even the regulars, injuries and suspention kept them out. Things are looking up.

Heading, back to my bro's abode, before I head back to Takoradi tomorrow...... The atmosphere here at Kumasi is really great :bouncy:

 

[TrollingSage]

Yeah, and this back four wasn't even the regulars, injuries and suspention kept them out. Things are looking up.

Heading, back to my bro's abode, before I head back to Takoradi tomorrow...... The atmosphere here at Kumasi is really great :bouncy:

LOL . Does the whole country still party when Ghana wins a match?

 

[Osagyefo]

LOL . Does the whole country still party when Ghana wins a match?

Yep, and the atmosphere when the when the team loses.... priceless

Still undefeated at Kumasi, and this was the highest scoreline in a Ghana Egypt clash, the previous one being a 5 - 1 win over Ghana by Egypt in an Olympic game years back

 

[Touken]

Who told you that? Kisame and Ae have Bijuu level Chakra reserves. In fact, Ae was using Bijuu level reserves just for his V2 armour - Karin confirms it. Prove to me that Naruto's base reserves even compare. Uzumaki's are known for distinct Life-Force whereas it's the Senju which are known for more Chakra reserves or the body. Naruto, isn't even an Uzumaki, as not only was his father is not from the Clan, but he LACKS the physicals traits of an Uzumaki completely. He's a Hybrid. Hizuren chose to conceal his lineage to fourth, which wasn't known to the majority of village. But that is another matter altogether.

Show me proof that Kushina said that Uzumaki are fit to become Nine Tails Jinchurikis? Show me manga proof that this powerful life-force argument is somehow present in Senju, when a couple of you are completely making this up when clearly Senju and Uzumaki are not the same thing and Naruto is not even a pure Uzumaki. Also, Naruto was NEVER chosen to be a Jinchuriki. A single one would do. Prove to me that Kurama was not kept as a political leverage. Only then you are right and I am wrong.

I can't be bothered finding the scan but I'm pretty sure Obito stated Uzumaki have large chakra reserves. Nagato's feats and Kushina still being able to subdue Kurama after having him extracted from her should be enough proof. Add the fact that every previous jinchuuriki of Kurama was an Uzumaki.

Ah, I'll rephrase then; the only people fit to become Kurama's jinchuuriki who are from Konoha/have close ties to Konoha are the Uzumaki.

They were the perfect host because of their incredible longevity and life force.

 

[Flakez]

Naruto is the only one fit to be Kurama's perfect jin.

And as for Obito controlling the juubi, it is only because half his body is senju.

 

[htmwall]

uchihas have the eyes that gives them an instant control over the beast,what they lack is a body strong enough to handle its chakra.
uzumakis have a special chakra that can match kurama's chakra,and naruto is the only person that can do that because of his uzumaki heritage and years of exposing to his chakra.here stated by kurama.

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not to mention the power of hate being the major source of uchihas power,which at the same time makes kurama's chakra more harmful will make any uchiha melt if they try to use it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

next untrue comment?

Thread and manga has proven that Uchiha can be come even the jubbi jin.

Talk about an untrue comment. The manga has never proven a pure Uchiha can become the Juubi jinchuriki. Obito has Senju DNA.

As for your response to my other post, both Delta and I referred specifically to kurama, so whatever Obito did to the juubi is irrelevant to the post.

 

[shelke]

I can't be bothered finding the scan but I'm pretty sure Obito stated Uzumaki have large chakra reserves. Nagato's feats and Kushina still being able to subdue Kurama after having him extracted from her should be enough proof. Add the fact that every previous jinchuuriki of Kurama was an Uzumaki.

Ah, I'll rephrase then; the only people fit to become Kurama's jinchuuriki who are from Konoha/have close ties to Konoha are the Uzumaki.

They were the perfect host because of their incredible longevity and life force.

You can say that for Nagato, but Naruto and Kushina? I doubt it. Yes, they have large reserves, but Uzumakis are known for their distinct 'Life Force' if anything, which is why Kushina survived. The term Large is quite relative. Naruto's base reserves are no where near Nagato's. This is proven from the start of the second part:

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. Which means at the best, his chakra reserves are about four times more than Kakashi's, as he uses the term at least here? And Kakashi's reserves according to kakashi himself, are quite little -

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Again, Kurama was kept as a political leverage not to make Jinchurkis out of Uzumaki. There is no manga evidence to back this up. True, Kushina and Mito were good hosts, but that is ridiculous to assume that they somehow represent the entirety of their Clan.